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Billy_the_Kid
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 17:24:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Billy_the_Kid's Homepage  Send Billy_the_Kid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Mislim da je rasprava suvisna, imamo dvadeset stranica trenutno na DKR topic-u i na svakom topicu o Batmanu koji je izasao... pa evo cisto da vidimo statisticki na forumu kakvo je misljenje

ako ovakav poll vec postoji unaprijed se izvinjavam, u tom slucaju molim kljuc i ako moze link

odgovor ''oba su dobra na svoj nacin'' sam namjerno izostavio da bude zanimljivije


Results:
Batman by Tim Burton [43%] 37 votes
Dark Knight by Christopher Nolan [57%] 49 votes


Poll Status: Locked »» Total Votes: 86 counted »» Last Vote: 02/09/2012 14:22:06

Seeing things differently can open new paths.

Edited by - Billy_the_Kid on 06/09/2012 23:39:49

acestroke
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 17:26:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nolanov Dark Knight, bez sumnje

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dosada
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 17:31:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
pretpostavljam da bu rezultat upravo kakav je u ovom trenutku, nekih 70:30 za nolana! Iznenadil bum se ak bu drugacije..

razmjena filmova za stripove!
http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=45640

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-jeremija-
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:09:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send -jeremija- a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Burton. Z'inat.

Edited by - -jeremija- on 30/02/2014 00:00:15
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Charlito de la Vega
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:15:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Charlito de la Vega a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Burton

I don't want to be one wave in the water
but sea will drag me deep: one more haggard drowned man.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:40:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
promjeni poll da mogu da glasaju members only, inace ce neko minirati i dzaba ti sve.
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Billy_the_Kid
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:41:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Billy_the_Kid's Homepage  Send Billy_the_Kid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ucinjeno, valjda nije bilo varanja

Seeing things differently can open new paths.
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King Warrior
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:45:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glas za Burtona jer je snimio najbolji Batmanov film, iako se ne moze reci da su svi filmovi jednog kompletno bolji od drugog.
Lista i pojedinacne ocjene:

Batman 9/10
Batman Returns 7/10
Batman Forever 4/10
Batman and Robin 1/10
Batman Begins 5/10
The Dark Knight 8/10
The Dark Knight Rises - 6/10
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Zagor12
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:46:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Zagor12's Homepage  Send Zagor12 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dark Knight bez razmišljanja.

Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti:
http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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Stripor
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 18:55:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Stripor's Homepage  Send Stripor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo mi sada izgleda smiješno... kao da svi sad iz inata glasaju za Burtona.
BTW večeras idem gledati Dark knight rises pa donesem konačni sud iako sam glas dao burtonovom batmanu jer mi nekako ima veći stripovski ugođaj.
Nolonovi su mi solidni (prva dva), ali mi ih naveliko kvari Christian Bale koji je usrao batmana u 2jci s onim glasom kojeg iz guzice progovara... Mogli su bolje proć sa odabirom glumca in the first place!
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acestroke
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 19:08:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stripor

Ovo mi sada izgleda smiješno... kao da svi sad iz inata glasaju za Burtona.



I ja se isto pitam. Sigurno to i jeste slucaj

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dante
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 19:12:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dante a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cisto kvalitativno TDK je bolji film od Batmana, ali Burtonov uradak je bolji Batman film, stoga glas za Burtona.

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DeeCay
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 19:33:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evo, ja izjednačio za Nolana 12:12.

Jako cijenim Burtona i njegove Batmana, no Nolan je ipak ponosno nosio štafetu zadnjih deset godina. Izvanredni su mi i Burtonovi Batmani, gledao ih stoput i gledat ću ih još, no ne mogu zaboraviti što je uradio i Nolan. Svaki je Batmanu pristupio s malo drugačije strane, a i to su dva redatelja vrlo različitog stila i malo je nezahvalno tako drsko i bezuvjetno odgovarati koji je bolji. Šteta što Burton nije dalje snimao Batmana, a možda i bolje, pamtimo ga po odličnom...

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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 20:46:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lord Vader89 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Burton

(manjim) delom iz inata, jer se praisuje Nolan mnogo vise nego sto zasluzuje
(vecim) delom zato sto nema greske, a Nolan ih mnogo ima

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Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D.
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paro
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 20:56:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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-jeremija-
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 21:02:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send -jeremija- a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja to gledam ovako:

Burton: Golden age/Silver age Betmen, gde se više daje na radnju i akciju nego na samu introspekciju glavnog superheroje.

Nolan: Modern era Betmen gde se junak više preispituje, mnogo je mračniji od Burtonovog, ali smaraju negativci. Dobro, u prvom delu. Drugi deo je epik. Treći ćemo da vidimo.

Ja jednostavno više preferiram starijeg Betmena... Više volim mračnije plotove, ali DC ga pretera u poslednjih 20 godina

Edited by - -jeremija- on 30/02/2014 00:00:15
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acestroke
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 21:06:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vidi se da je Burton pravi stripofil, jebote. Sigurno bi rek'o da smo svi ovdje retardirani jer citamo stripove.

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paro
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Posted - 24/08/2012 : 21:09:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, šalu na stranu.
Dva potpuno različita pristupa Batmanu i oba rastaruju, ali ipak Burtonove sam pogledao...ma i sam nemam pojma koliko puta. Moj glas ide Burtonu,jer ako ništa on je barem znao izabrat savršene glumce za uloge. Keaton je meni za dva koplja bolji od Balea, Nicholson, Pfeiffer, Basinger, DeVito..

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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culfis
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 00:27:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culfis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
nikad laksi izbor - Nolan!

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Windwalker
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 02:06:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako već ocjenjujemo Batman Filmove:
Batman 7/10
Batman Returns 5/10
Batman Forever 3/10
Batman and Robin 3/10
Batman Begins 9/10
The Dark Knight 9/10
The Dark Knight Rises - 8/10
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acestroke
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 02:18:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Windwalker, moje ocjene su slicne tvojima, jedina razlika je sto bi ja TDKu dao desetku.
;)

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supermark
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 08:08:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit supermark's Homepage  Send supermark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Batman 6/10
Batman Returns 7/10
Batman Forever 3/10
Batman and Robin 3/10
Batman Begins 7/10
The Dark Knight 9/10
The Dark Knight Rises - 5/10
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 08:37:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Burton definitivno.

“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde
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Krscho
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 09:01:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Krscho a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nolan definitivno

Burton zna snimati samo jedan te isti film, jednog te istog ugodaja i to radi godinama, covjek nikad nije iso iz krajnosti u krajnsot i to mu zamjeram. Njegovi batmeni su stilski isti kao i njegov nightmare before christmas i iblo koji drugi njegov film i to mu zamjeram, d ane velim d aje joker ubio bruceove roditelje pa wtf vidi se da nije uopce cito materiju po kojoj je odlucio raditi a ako je cito je odabro brzi put kako nebi trebo filozofirati i uvoditi neke dublje plot pointove u pricu i jednostavno njegovi filmovi su prejendostavni za jedan batman univerzum a ko kaze d aje Burton vjeran stripu nikad u zivotu nije ocito procito batman stripove

Moj glas ide Nolanu jer svakom filmu pristupi na drukciji nacin, mkr mislim da je TDKR najlosiji u trilogiji TDK tuce za dva kolja sve burtonove batmene zajedno a begins ima svoju temu koju odlicno razradi.
Glumci u Nolan filmovima su bolji. Komu je Keaton, Nicholson bolji od jednom Micheala keanea, Gary Oldmana, Heatha ledgera i na kraju Balea koji je glumac koji za svaku ulogu se krvnicki priprema i ide kroz fizicke transofrmacije kao u The Mechanistcu nema pojma sta znaci biti glumac i samo pljuvnaje po njemu kao Batmenu je utemeljenu na amnozitetu a ne pravim cinjenicama jer je on lik Brue Waynea/batmena doveo na razinu na kojoj Keaton nikad nije bio.

Opcenito Nolanovi batmena imaju jači character development, jacu glumu glavnih glumaca, jaci story arc i kvalitetniji dozviljaj dok Burtonu je sve jendostavno i nikad nije zaso dublje u batman svijet i zbog toga je Nolana interpretaicja puno superiornija
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Charlito de la Vega
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 09:32:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Charlito de la Vega a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Istina je što kažeš za Burtona u vezi snimanja istih filmova u istom stilu, ali taj stil meni paše; pogotovo za Batmana.
Prvi je za mene remek djelo.
Pogledao sam ga ni sam ne znam koliko puta i nikad ne dosadi, a sa Nolanovim sam često na rubu drijemanja, a zijevanje je česta nuspojava.
I prvi i drugi (trećeg nisam gledao) su mi prerazvučeni.
Imaju dobrih fora ali nekako nije to to.
Burtonov Batman je "cool & slick" dok mi Nolanov izgleda kao pajac u kostimu; pa onda s onim glasom...fora na početku ali iritacija sve veća kako film odmiče.
Eh...i Batmobile - to je makina, a ne ovaj polutenk.

I don't want to be one wave in the water
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Zagor i Chico
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Posted - 25/08/2012 : 09:33:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Zagor i Chico a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by acestroke

quote:
Originally posted by Stripor

Ovo mi sada izgleda smiješno... kao da svi sad iz inata glasaju za Burtona.



I ja se isto pitam. Sigurno to i jeste slucaj




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