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Vlaadisha Posted - 03/05/2020 : 19:39:27
U nedavnoj raspravi o scenaristima i crtačima pomenuto je kako ista priča može da se čita potpuno drugačije u interpretaciji različitih autora.

To se najbolje vidi kad je rađen rimejk neke epizode.

Od stranih stripova, na ovom kanalu komentarišu strip Bookworm, objavljen i kod nas u magazinu Tron. Jasno je već posle prve strane da je Toth superioran, od postavke do upisa.



Od domaćih primera, zanimljiv je slučaj Belog pantera. Reč je o epizodi Tarzana na osnovu koje je dobijena licenca. Levo je prva verzija u izvedbi Branislava Kerca, desno isti crtež koji je istuširao Branko Plavšić. Ispod je rad Nikole Mitrovića Kokana po istom scenariju, koji možete videti u celosti u onlajn izdanju knjige Leskovački strip.





Mišljenja?

Ima li još primera?
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going going Posted - 29/05/2020 : 02:36:49
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

agreed

rekolor smo spominjali na drugim temama




Skinuo sa youtuba comic tropes?



Skinuo je taj video jer nije pitao za dozvolu za neke crteze. Previse je posten i dobar taj chris. Nisam stigao da pogledam tu epizodu nadam se da ce je okaciti ponovo.
jaki Posted - 29/05/2020 : 00:58:32
Prva.
alexts Posted - 28/05/2020 : 22:01:26
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Skinuo sa youtuba comic tropes?



kako ti se ovo svidja? original vs rekolor



To je ponovo nacrtano.
alexts Posted - 28/05/2020 : 21:59:40
Stari Konanov kolor ima šmeka, ali DH je uradio smisleno i dobro rekolorisanje.

Kod Srebrnog letača, poslednja varijanta je za izbegavanje, srednja taman.
Poli Posted - 28/05/2020 : 20:57:41

Ovdje original dosta bolji, ali kod Konana je DH napravio majstorski posao (mada se na onoj gornjoj tabli to mozda ne vidi najbolje - tu je svijetlo, odsjaj, bolji na originalu, ali opste je DH-jev kolor bolji).


Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 20:52:33
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

Skinuo sa youtuba comic tropes?

sa nekog foruma o reprintima, ne znam odakle njima

kako ti se ovo svidja? original vs rekolor

DinkoJ Posted - 28/05/2020 : 19:56:01
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Mislim da je radio sam Uderzo.
https://mueli77.com/2013/03/24/asterix-der-gallier-der-vergleich-zwischen-original-und-neuauflage-inklusive-gewinnspiel/



Izivko odličan članak baš sam tražio nešto tako na engleskom pa nisam ništa našao.
Peyo Posted - 28/05/2020 : 19:52:54
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Mislim da je radio sam Uderzo.
https://mueli77.com/2013/03/24/asterix-der-gallier-der-vergleich-zwischen-original-und-neuauflage-inklusive-gewinnspiel/



I meni se čini da je tako.

Ovaj Spidey kojem ispada zubalo je urnebesan, totalno u stilu MAD-ovih luđaka .
jaki Posted - 28/05/2020 : 19:38:54
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

agreed

rekolor smo spominjali na drugim temama




Skinuo sa youtuba comic tropes?
izivko Posted - 28/05/2020 : 19:14:48
Mislim da je radio sam Uderzo.
https://mueli77.com/2013/03/24/asterix-der-gallier-der-vergleich-zwischen-original-und-neuauflage-inklusive-gewinnspiel/
DinkoJ Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:28:52
Baš i mene zanima tko je radio redizajn naslovnica Asterixa.
Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:12:36
ovde mi je bolja prva postavka

Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:10:54
bio je vec tintin, evo ga i update asterixa
da l' je ovo uopste uderzo

Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:09:55
kontroverzni killing joke

Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:08:53
pa onda ovo

Vlaadisha Posted - 28/05/2020 : 18:07:59
agreed

rekolor smo spominjali na drugim temama

jaki Posted - 27/05/2020 : 02:03:38
Slažem se u potpunosti.
dupli Posted - 26/05/2020 : 23:57:43
Evo gledam već pet minuta i što duže gledam zadnja verzija mi je sve bolja i bolja. Na stranu "value" boje, delikatnost Moebiusove linije i čitljivost Galaktusova monologa. Sve mi je to drugog reda važnosti pred dojmom zadnje verzije. Ono, bljesnuo je narančasti svjetlosni stup i momentalno je sve utonulo u tamu. Svi bulje u Galaktusa spaljeni narančastim odsjajem do te mjere da se lica jedva razabiru i svedeni su na jednoličnu nevažnu gomilu. U međuvremenu u zraku visi hladan distanciran glas i zapravo je svejedno što Galaktus priča jer nitko od šoka ionako ne sluša. Dobra je fora s plavim balončićima da se to postigne. I onda se odjednom narančasto svjetlo ugasi (super postignut dojam s zelenim Galaktusom u zadnjem kadru), ali tama ostaje i isti monotoni hladni glas. Dobra mi je fora s narančastim rubom stranice jer tim stvara dojam da se čitatelj nalazi isto među gomilom spaljenom narančastim svjetlom.
jaki Posted - 26/05/2020 : 23:25:38
Comicon Br.1,Sky Comics 1990 g.(Miličević)
jaki Posted - 26/05/2020 : 22:40:31
ubij me ali se meni sviđa i ova zadnja boja
Mr. Bushido Posted - 26/05/2020 : 22:31:06
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

drugačiji kolor (levo) daje novo čitanje starom stripu




Kad smo kod drukčijeg kolora, evo što je José Villarrubia objavio na Facebooku o koloru stripa Silver Surfer: Parable.

quote:


From a colorist’s perspective:

Jean Giraud should need no introduction: he was one of the true genius of comics and fantasy illustration and his work continues to inspire generations. Being French, he was used to very good reproduction for his work, both as Gir (Blueberry) and Moebius (Metal Hurlant). In 1988, when he agreed to draw an American comic book mini-series for the first and only time, his main incentive was to have his work reproduced in newsprint and with the old-fashioned coloring system that was still used. Giraud himself with John Wellington colored this version and it was beautiful. Not long after, it was reprinted in slick white paper and recolored. My friend Mark Chiarello with John Wellinton again did a great, sensitive reinterpretation

And then a few years ago Claire Champebal recolored it again, I do not know if under Giraud’ supervision or not. These new colors have been featured in new large format European editions. They are shocking to say the least. Whereas the two previous versions took into consideration the narrative rhythm and poetic quality of the line art, this new edition pumps up the volume to the nth degree. See the example bellow: value hierarchy goes out the window, color temperature is arbitrary, and to make matters worse, gutters (space around the panels) and word balloons are colored in bright colors that blend with the images. I am sorry but it is an eyesore. I am holding on to the previous editions.



Na što se nadovezao Lovern Kindzierski:

quote:
A long time ago when Jean interviewed me to work for him he showed me the Silver Surfer comics and asked me what I thought of the colour. I told him that I knew that he coloured it and had the comics in my collection. He smiled and asked me what I thought of the colour. I told him that I thought that it didn't work. He asked me why and I told him that I thought there was problems with tonality and value. I liked the essential colours but they were off. I could feel the cold sweat running down my ribs. Not only had I criticized his colour but I had done it in front of Harvey Kurtzman and Terry Gilliam. I was ready for a dressing down. Jean smiled and told me that I was absolutely correct. He was not happy with the reproduction of his guides. He had attached PMS number tags to his guides and was hot happy that they weren't followed. I explained to him the old colour separation method employed then and he was surprised that his book had not been allowed the full range of the old system and better follow his guides. I had not talked to him after the book that Mark worked on, but I always felt that he would have been much happier to see the full painted range of colour and the much more successful palette.


Kao i Mark Chiarello:

quote:
Jean told me he liked the painted (blue line color) that John Wellington and I did for the hardcover quite a bit, and gave me a drawing to thank me for it.


Cijela rasprava je dostupna ovdje:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10163556033280117&set=a.10163251815750117&type=3&theater

A ovdje možete vidjeti table u boljoj veličini.

https://i.imgur.com/WSZGdLz.jpg
lwood Posted - 21/05/2020 : 07:58:44
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Uh, ovaj Mitrovićev Tarzan je moćan, opak, misteriozan, njegovi pokreti, pogled, urlik - grom gromova.
Iskreno, više mi se svidio od Kerčevog.



Ovo na panteri više pari produžni kabel nego rep.
Shaner Posted - 21/05/2020 : 07:40:21
quote:
Originally posted by Vlaadisha

prvi put cenzurisano, drugi put nije




Stvarno su nevjerojatni ti Amerikanci.

Inače, svaka čast na topicu! Nemam baš toliko znanja da bih sudjelovao, ali redovito pratim.

Vlaadisha Posted - 21/05/2020 : 02:45:05
drugačiji kolor (levo) daje novo čitanje starom stripu

Vlaadisha Posted - 21/05/2020 : 02:42:37
a ovo bi moglo da se zove druga meta, isto odstojanje
crtač preradio stare table betmena u kapetana


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