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Mord
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Procitao sam pricu "Big fat Kill". To je moj prvi susret sa ovim serijalom. I nekako sam ocekivao vise. Sama prica me nije nesto posebno odusevila. A kadrovi i crtez su mi malo neobicni.

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zveles
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:20:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Procitaj ponovo!

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SnotMan
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:35:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
kad smo kod stripova zanima me da li postoji junak koji nije big tuff motherfucker nego recimo da je na drugoj strani zakona

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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:39:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
Fantom (Dobro ovo manje-više.), Diabolik...

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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:42:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
imali jos zanima me nesto sto nisam cito(a to su manje vise krimici)<=mislim na diabolik i fantom

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zveles
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:44:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
pa...? u sin cityju to baš nije tako jednostavno. strip jest noire prica, a likovi u noire su uglavnom tragicni. možda bi covijek ocekivao da su prikazani crno ili bijelo, znaci: ili good ili bad guys; ali likovi su u serijalu prikazani onako "sivkasto" (pleeease, neka me niko doslovno ne shvati - ovdje pricam o dramaturškoj razradi likova), na samom rubu moralno prihvatljivog.

nego, da konacno odgovorim na tvoje pitanj. ima! glavni lik that yellow bastard je cop. ako sam te dobro razumio, na tu drugu stranu misliš?

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Djole
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:51:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Sin city je bio veoma jako interesantan u pocetku. Malo slabije price, ali grafizam revolucionaran za US mainstream.

Ali malko se izlizala formula vec posle drugog trejda... da ne kazem da je postao dosadan...

"Doveva essere un mio omonimo... mi spiace per lui, ma io sono vivo..."
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Mord
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:53:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
Sto povezuje price iz ovog serijala. likovi?? Grad?? Ove zene sto se pojavljuju u "big fat kill" koje imaju svoj dio grada, to se provlaci dalje? Povezanost? Nekako mi je prica nedorecena.
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Djole
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 22:55:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Povezuje nekoliko likova koji se smenjuju.

"Doveva essere un mio omonimo... mi spiace per lui, ma io sono vivo..."
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zveles
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:07:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Grad!
Neki likovi se pojavljuju u više epizoda, ali grad je osnovno što ih povezuje. Ustvari, tako se serija i zove.

Istina da je Big Fatt Kill mrvicu slabiji od prva dva, ali onda dolazi najbolji cetvrti That Yellow Bastard! Onda je GN Family Values - malo sporija radnja, više atmosferski napravljen, te posljednji Hell & Back (Love Story) - opet odlican.
Bilo je i 4 ili 5 one-shotova (specijalki s kratkim pricama), od kojih je Silent Night stvarno bio revolucionaran za americku komercijalnu industriju stripova. Ljudi su se tamo, naime, žalili da im je trebalo 30 sekundi da procitaju Silent Night! ;):)

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Mord
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:13:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
Znaci ovaj bi ispao "najgori". Svakako cu ga procitati jos jednom. Nekako mi bas nije sjeo. Prvo mi onaj grad sa casnim kurvama nije sjeo. Onda ona spika sa onom glavom za koju se otimaju irski teroristi, jer to kao ima neke veze s mafijom. Jedino sto mi je glavni lik okarakteriziran fenomenalno.
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:22:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Silent night jeste revolucionaran (a s obzirom na to kome je posvecen, nije ni cudo >:) ), ali ipak sve to posle odredjenog vreena postane malo dosadno...

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zveles
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:24:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Pod navodnicima "najgori", da. Mrvicu slabiji, recimo...
Imaš unutra i onu spiku sa starim Grcima, pa je po tome strip i nazvan onako po grcki "Big Fatt".
Nesjecam se više tocno što je bilo s glavom i zašto su je trebali dopremiti big bossu, ali glavni lik u prici je saznao nešto zbog cega su ga ti mafijaši progonili. Pa je zato i pobjegao iz grada u mali gradic na ulazu: Sin City, predgrade u kojem obitavaju kurve. Casne? Pa, dobra rijec. Imaju svoja pravila ponašanja, one su same sebi zakon u Sin Cityju i imaju svoju cast. A brani je neprejebiva MIHO! :)))

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Mord
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:25:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
pa mogao si napisati kome je posvecen. Znao si da ce neko pitati.
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zveles
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:26:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Djole

Silent night jeste revolucionaran (a s obzirom na to kome je posvecen, nije ni cudo >:) ), ali ipak sve to posle odredjenog vreena postane malo dosadno...



He, he...
A šta je Quesada napravio kad je došao na celo Marvela?
Silent Month!!!

Inspiriran kojim stripom?

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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:27:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Mord

pa mogao si napisati kome je posvecen. Znao si da ce neko pitati.


gosp. Prattu. in memoriam.

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Djole
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:28:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Nisam mislio da Silent night postane dosadan, vec sam koncept Sin cityja. A Silent month je glupost.

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Mord
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:29:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
I jos jedno pitanje.

Je li ovo sve:

Sin City (Frank Miller)
01. Sin City TPB 208pg
02. Sin City: A Dame To Kill For TPB (#1-6) 208pg
03. Sin City: The Big Fat Kill TPB (#1-5) 184pg
04. Sin City: That Yellow Bastard TPB (#1-6) 240pg
05. Sin City: Family Values TPB 128pg
06. Sin City: Booze, Broads & Bullets TPB 160pg
Sin City: Silent Night
Sin City: The Babe Wore Red and Other Stories
Sin City: Lost, Lonely, and Lethal
Sin City: Sex & Violence
Sin City: Just Another Saturday Night
Daddy's Little Girl
07. Sin City: Hell and Back (#1-9) 312pg
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:31:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Stvar ukusa! U Sin City mi nije bitna ni radnja, ni dijalozi. Naprosto uživam u Millerovom pripovjedanju kojim nas vodi kroz strip. To ti je kao šund romani. Mogao bih sto procitati i još mi ne bi bilo dosta! ;)

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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:33:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Yes, to je sve. Uz napomenu da je Booze, Broads & Bullets TPB kolekcija ovih one-shotova (kod tebe na popisu bez broja, svih pet, nisam siguran jel' šta još dodano u TP).

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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:39:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by zveles

Stvar ukusa! U Sin City mi nije bitna ni radnja, ni dijalozi. Naprosto uživam u Millerovom pripovjedanju kojim nas vodi kroz strip. To ti je kao šund romani. Mogao bih sto procitati i još mi ne bi bilo dosta! ;)


Ne znam, ja ipak volim malo vise... sadrzaja... strip/knjiga moraju da me zagolicaju ili intelektualno ili emotivno. A Sin City ne radi ni jedno ni drugo.

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Mord
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:39:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
U tome Booze,Broads... je tih 5 one-shotova i Daddy's little girl za koji ne znam sto je. Sve skupa 6 prica.

Slazem se da je Millerovo pripovjedanje strava dobro.
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Posted - 22/08/2003 : 23:43:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
To je jedna od prica iz one-shotova. U nekim one-shotovima je bilo i po tri (ili cetiri?) kratke price, onako jedna prica od 4 stranice, druga od 8...

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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 10:10:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zveles a Private Message
Big Fat Kill se nadovezuje na A Dame To Kill For. Svaki od tradeova se može citati zasebno, ali BFK ipak ima neki nastavak kontinuiteta u prici na DTKF.

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Vlaad
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Daddy's Little Girl ima osam strana... Imam je u Tales To Offend, no ne znam je li tu originalno izasla...?
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Nije. Izašla je u jednoj od specijalki. Provjereno.

"Tales To Offend reprints short stories found in other books. Lance Blastoff is as over
the top as they come, about a guy in space doing some awful things for a buck.
Daddy's Little Girl, the Sin City story, is about a father and what happens to the men
his little girl brings home. "

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