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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 12:33:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Podseti me Verfalkovo pitanje o Krcku na ovaj fenomenalni strip tandema Colman & Desberg u izdanju Dupuisa.

Dakle, ako postoji naslednik Krcka, to je Billy. u stripu se radi o ne bas finom klincu koji je mucio i nervirao sve zive: roditelje, ucitelje, a posebno macke. I onda ga zgaze kola i on se reinkarnira kao mace. Slede brojne peripetije...

I pored naivnog crteza, strip je, kao i Krcko, veoma surov. Primera radi, kada glavnom negativcu, ogromnom macoru zvanom Sanctifer u albumu "L'oeil du maitre" propadne pokusaj da se osveti Billyju putem armije pacova, on pokusava da pobegne, ali ga jedan od njegovih pacovskih podanika zaustavlja i kaze: "Gospodaru... obecali ste da cete nas odvesti u bolji svet..." U sledecm kadru vidimo zaklanog pacova i Sanctifera kako kaze: "Ja uvek odrzavam svoja obecanja". I naravno, ima jos takvih stvari.

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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 14:31:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
quote:
Podseti me Verfalkovo pitanje o Krcku na ovaj fenomenalni strip tandema Colman & Desberg u izdanju Dupuisa.


Ma, Verfalk je legenda!

Osamljenost nije u tome što smo sami nego u tomu što ne postoji ništa za cime ceznemo.
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 14:36:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
gdje ima nabaviti

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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 14:41:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Gde god se prica francuski...

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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 14:43:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
znaci nemogu ga nabaviti ovdje u ugandi moram ici sjevernije

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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 14:45:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Imas ih na www.amazon.fr, i to po veoma lepim cenama...

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---dp---
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 17:44:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Bas ti hvala Djole... sve ne znam sta cu s parama pa cu da ih trosim na stripove na francuskom... posle da molim Sanija da mi ih prevodi
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 18:04:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
ma cjene su fenomenalne nisam nenormalan

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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 18:12:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Tja, 3 - 4 evrica nije previse za jedan album. A ti dp prodaj svoju kolkeciju Zagora, i eto novaca! ;)

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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 18:17:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SnotMan's Homepage  Send SnotMan a Private Message
nisu ali troskovi dostave

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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 22:47:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Naruci ceo komplet, i onda ti ne izadje previse po stripu.

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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 23:03:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mord a Private Message
Danas sam otkrio da ne mogu citati niti svaki strip na engleskom, a francuski...
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Djole
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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 23:31:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Zagrej stolicu. Bez poznavanja tri jezika (engleski, francuski, italijanski) ne mogu da se prate stripovi.

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Posted - 23/08/2003 : 23:32:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
No, pricamo o jezicima i nabavkama, a ne o stripu. Jel citao jos neko Billyja?

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---dp---
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Posted - 24/08/2003 : 06:18:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
quote by Djole:
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Tja, 3 - 4 evrica nije previse za jedan album. A ti dp prodaj svoju kolkeciju Zagora, i eto novaca! ;)
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Ma nema potreba, znas da su meni i skenirani stripovi dobri... vec ce neko to skenirati (ako niko drugi, onda ce Sani)
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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 14:44:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>No, pricamo o jezicima i nabavkama, a ne o stripu. Jel citao jos >neko Billyja?

Jesam i ne mogu ga smisliti ... Ono zbilja mi je odvratan, glup k'o noch. Koja je premisa: klinac se reinkarnirao u maccku i ...? Hoche li ikad natrag? Neche. Hoche li prestati kukati da je maccak? Neche. Je li issta nauccio (ne da je i bio tako zloccest)? Nije. Da onog krokodila s poccetka i ne spominjem. Je li ovo strip o iskupljenju, o novoj ssansi ili samo high concept high concepta radi? Ovo zdnje, bojim se.

No strassno je popularan pa sam vjerojatno opet ja u krivu.

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---dp---
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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 14:48:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Pa, iznad svega se cini da je strip za decu... makar po ovom opisu
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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 17:28:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
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Originally posted by mcn

Jesam i ne mogu ga smisliti ... Ono zbilja mi je odvratan, glup k'o noch. Koja je premisa: klinac se reinkarnirao u maccku i ...? Hoche li ikad natrag? Neche. Hoche li prestati kukati da je maccak? Neche. Je li issta nauccio (ne da je i bio tako zloccest)? Nije. Da onog krokodila s poccetka i ne spominjem. Je li ovo strip o iskupljenju, o novoj ssansi ili samo high concept high concepta radi? Ovo zdnje, bojim se.

No strassno je popularan pa sam vjerojatno opet ja u krivu.



Uh.

Dobro, krokodil i ono drugo stvorenjce su, onako, malo...

Pocetni koncept je samo to i nista vise. Mali catch da ne bude samo strip o mackama i solidno surovom svetu. Nekako mi ni to ni iskupljenje nisu glavne karakteristike Billyja, niti mislim da Colman & Desberg planirali da se time previse bave.

A sve to po strani, moras priznati da ima dobrih detalja...

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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 17:29:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
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Originally posted by ---dp---

Pa, iznad svega se cini da je strip za decu... makar po ovom opisu


Pa ja lepo rekoh da nije strip za decu.

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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 17:37:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Sorry... po Macanovom opisu, bas mi se ucinilo da je onako, pravi deciji
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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 18:01:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Aha, deca obozavaju stripove gde klinca odma na pocetku obuvaju kola...

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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 22:52:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>A sve to po strani, moras priznati da ima dobrih detalja...

Detalja ima, ali to me valjda i jebe kod Desberga ... Ima zapravoodliccne ideje i onda ih ne iskoristi ... To mi je gore nego kad je sve prosjeccno, onda bar znass da je to ccoekov nivo, a ne da ispadne da se ne trudi ...

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Posted - 27/08/2003 : 23:12:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
OK, ali ako prica i ne moze biti ko zna koliko genijalna (jer nikada nije ni bila u franko-belgijskom humoristicko-avanturistickom stripu), onda su ti scenaristicki detalji (navedena scena sa pacovom, pa onda ono sa reinkarniranom pticom koja je konacno "poletela", pa reklama za hranu za macke odmah pored plakata "Nahranite decu Afrike"...) sve sto je bitno.

Billy ima jaku notu ironije i cinizma koja bezi mladjim citaocima (a cujem da nije uopste prenesena u crtani film - of kors), i zato mislim da je pravi naslednik Krcka... (nemoj mi reci da ti se ni Krcko ne svidja?!!)

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>mislim da je pravi naslednik Krcka... (nemoj mi reci da ti se ni
>Krcko ne svidja?!!)

Krcko je, naravno, zakon ... A Desberg ... Sorry.

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Posted - 28/08/2003 : 00:23:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
To samo imas odbojnsot prema ultra popularnim stripovima...

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Posted - 28/08/2003 : 09:42:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>To samo imas odbojnsot prema ultra popularnim stripovima...

Tu bi ccak mogao biti i u pravu ... Kad ccujem da je nessto popularno, onda odmah podignem kriterije po kojima sudim. Nisu, recimo, 100 Bullets toliko lossi koliko se meni ne svidjaju. A opet, ssto je najprodavanije u Fr? Titeuf. I da l' mi se svidja? Da, jako. Iako, ostatak liste od pedeset najprodavanijih je za kurac...

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