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MAGIC
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 02:39:55
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Ma ako pukne Vannini ima ja da stampam Dylan Doga piratsko izdanje pa sta bude.Ako moze onaj da stampa glupavi PSDZ zasto ne bih mogao i ja... Samo sto bih u tom slucaju svakako sam skenirao svoje stripove a ne krao tudj rad kao ovi iz BG-a.
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MAGIC
stripovi.com suradnik
    
Lebanon
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 02:46:39
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slazem se dd sa tobom,samo sto ovo nije stampano u beogradu vec u hrvatskoj,kolko sam ja obavesten
Cinema, simulated life, ill drama Fourth Reich culture - Americana Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for Tha thin line between entertainment and war
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dd fan
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Serbia
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---dp---
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 08:30:51
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ddfan, i ja cu ti pomoci oko toga... raspitaj se kod ovog tvog sto je radio PSDZ da pomogne savetima oko distribucije, pa da krenemo na posao, mislim da je vreme da ljudi koji zaista vole stripove pocnu da se bave njima i da preuzmu stvari u svoje ruke... Najpre cemo napraviti par piratskih brojeva, a kad malo dodjemo do novca nastavicemo sve legalno i bez debilnih propusta koje su pravili nasi prethodnici
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Denmark
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 12:21:21
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ma sta vam je ljudi, da je vannini imao profit nastavili bi, al jednostavno nema dovoljno publike , nema zarade, a biznis tako neide, to je kapitalizam. nema vise ono drustveno komunisticko, da iako nedaje zaradu, treba to raditi jer je u interesu drustva, zajebite to vise. pomirite se sa cinjenicom da je marked za strip previse mali da bi se isplatilo. neznam mozda grijesim sa ovim svim, koce znati, al tako mi se bar cini, ispravite me ako grijesim
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DusMan
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 16:22:18
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dd fan i ja te podrzavam! Ako nekako mogu pomoci, rado bih (mada ne znam kako bih mogao).
A sto se tice Vanninija pojavili se na par kiosaka ovde ti kompleti. 2 epizode + poklon epizoda = 120 dinara ili 2,1 euro. I sto je najgore (ako od ovog i postoji gore) ne stavljaju iste junake u kesice, nego onako, malo pomesaju, a isto je i sa epizodama! Ako je neko jos sumnjao u to da su propali... pa ovo je potvrda!
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 17:03:31
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Gresis Top.Sta mislis zasto ovaj tip stampa PSDZ?Zato sto zaradjuje. Vannini je pukao jer je imao milion gresaka,jer je imao los kvalitet,jer puno para odlazi na distribuciju.Pirati mogu da zaobidju sva 3 nabrojana problema,ali oni imaju nekih drugih problema. Dobro poznajem coveka koji stampa PSDZ i on mi je sam objasnio neke stvari,tako da sam veoma upucen u materiju.Dakle,dp distribucija nije nikakav problem!Za to se ne treba brinuti,recimo 500 primeraka se uvek moze prodati.Da malo izbanalizujem,samo da iznesem tih 500 komada u knez Mihajlovu i mislim da bi se sve prodalo za pola sata(ali naravno to se ne moze uraditi)... kod piratskih izdanja postoje "samo" 3 problema: 1)Za pocetak je potrebno nekih 1000-1500 DM kao pocetni kapital za stampanje neki 500-600 komada.Ulozen novac se,ako sve prodje kako treba,vraca za nekih mesec,mesec i po dana.Ali 1500 DM bas i nije mala cifra. 2)Treba pronaci stampariju koja je spremna da stampa piratski strip;najbolje neka mala stamparija,sto manja to bolje(ali da je opet sto bolje opremljena naravno). 3)Onaj najveci problem-strah od zakonskog gonjenja.Uvek postoji mogucnost da ti recimo upadne murija i podigne svih 500 komada koliko si odstampao(e to bi bilo strasno).U onom periodu '92-'99 verujem da ne bi bilo nikakvih problema ali danas je situacija malo drugacija.
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seinfeld
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XIII
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Serbia
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Posted - 18/05/2002 : 22:03:27
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Najpre bih zeleo da pozdravim sve ljubitelje stripa, s obzirom da je ovo moje prvo ukljucenje u forum. Koliko i ja vidim izgleda da od Vanninija nema nista jer ce jos malo kraj maja a onog cuvenog prvog Dylan Doga na 116 starnica jos uvek nema. Da zlo bude jos gore Hrvatska izdanja stripova mogu se naci samo u Beogradu pa je za ljubitelje stripa u unutrasnjosti skoro nemoguce lako naci Bonelijeve junake. Bar se pojavio prvi broj Akire u izdanju Marketprinta. Daj sta dass samo da oima nesto da secita
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kasper
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dd fan
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Serbia
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 21/05/2002 : 07:49:18
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E da,to je jedina stvar na kojoj sam mu zahvalan-piraterija.
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Going-Going
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/05/2002 : 08:01:13
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quote: raspitaj se kod ovog tvog sto je radio PSDZ da pomogne savetima oko distribucije, pa da krenemo na posao
Pa -dp- cifra od "neverovatnih" 400 (i slovima cetristo) i nije neki problem distribuirati. Sto se tice piraterije i ja sam se zanosio tom idejom, cek sam od prijatelja stampara saznao cene koliko bi to iznosilo za odredjene kolicine stripova. Cifre uopste nisu naivne. Sto se tice Vanninija, nisam siguran da su se ugasili zato sto nisu prodavali dovoljno nego zbog drugih stvari, ali necu da pljujem.
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dd fan
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Serbia
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Posted - 22/05/2002 : 14:23:39
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quote: cek sam od prijatelja stampara saznao cene koliko bi to iznosilo za odredjene kolicine stripova
Ma u principu nije to tako strasno.Recimo jedan strip u odlicnom kvalitetu(nesto kao "Frankenstajn!",a nikako kao Vannini) je negde 1,5-2 DM.Ali ipak kada se treba platiti 400-500 komada onda ukupna cifra bas i nije mala,rekao sam vec-negde 1000-1500 DM.Ali nije to problem,nekako bi se vec nasle pare,mene najvise brine onaj problem No3.Da je Sloba jos na vlasti ja bih to odstampao 101%.
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