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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Barker
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Fyro Macedonia
4647 Posts
Member since 10/10/2003 |
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kiky
stripovi.com suradnik
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Member since 17/07/2003 |
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seinfeld
Advanced Member
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Heyoka
stripovi.com suradnik
Bosnia and Herzegovina
4913 Posts
Member since 01/11/2001 |
 Posted - 25/11/2004 : 18:37:44
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Upravu si, kiky. Tacnije, rekao je da je pedofil i da stripove koristi kao mamac.  
"...nigdje, nigdje, nikad, niko nije pronasao stecak na kome Bosanac kleci i moli. Na kom je prikazan kao sužanj." M.Krleža
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wiz
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Slovenia
5487 Posts
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Posted - 25/11/2004 : 18:58:23
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ajde ne pretjerujte momci, i meni kod kuce uvek nesto pizde zbog stripova, da se ponasam ko djete itd. stari jos nekako razumije jer ih je i on citao al majka ccc...moram joj dati nesto da procita :))
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:10:08
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A ništa nije odgovorila... Njoj je to bilo retoricko pitanje. Ona ionako misli da je njezino mišljenje ispravno i sveto, al se duboko u sebi ipak nada da ce njen sin ipak odrasti i vec jednom zaboraviti tu djecju razbibrigu. 
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:13:42
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Originally posted by Heyoka
Upravu si, kiky. Tacnije, rekao je da je pedofil i da stripove koristi kao mamac.
Ja još nisam vidio dijete koje cita strip! Ako se tom tehnikom koriste pedofili, teško da išta uhvate...
A ovaj topic sam otvorio i s namjerom da vas obavjestim o novom clanku u stripu! 
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled
Was convincing the world he didn't exist,
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Edited by - DeeCay on 25/11/2004 19:16:28 |
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Djole
stripovi.com suradnik
Serbia
11876 Posts
Member since 03/11/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:17:39
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Pa ne budi riba, skeniraj clanak.
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Djole
stripovi.com suradnik
Serbia
11876 Posts
Member since 03/11/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:19:01
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btw, ja sam manijak.
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:22:25
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Originally posted by Djole
btw, ja sam manijak.
Uzeto na znanje i ravnanje!
Ništa od skena jer nemam skener, nažalost...
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled
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wiz
Advanced Member
Slovenia
5487 Posts
Member since 20/10/2003 |
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kiky
stripovi.com suradnik
7363 Posts
Member since 17/07/2003 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:26:51
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Ma, i meni je moja stara isto vec na stotinu pitanja postavila kada sam joj rekao da idem na CRŠ... a za stripove isto gnjavi otkad sam ih i poceo citati! Ali kako ja vecinom radim sve suprotno želji mojih roditelja, boli me briga što ona misli o CRŠ (o kojemu pojma nema ni šta je to niti šta to znaci stripo-fanu kao što sam ja...).
Tati isto nikada nisu smetali stripovi niti mu ne smeta kuda ja idem ili što radim. Glavno dok ja uvijek kupim novog Zagora, pa mu dam da procita, onda se nas dvoje razumijemo... :)
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
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wiz
Advanced Member
Slovenia
5487 Posts
Member since 20/10/2003 |
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Porter
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Sweden
5874 Posts
Member since 01/08/2002 |
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 19:50:56
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Ma tako je, zato i postoje forumi gdje susreceš manijake (ili djecu) svoje vrste.
Mi smo samo pripadnici strip subkulture koja je za nas sveta umjetnost...
Moja mala necakinja koja guta one silne teen magazine i slini na Justina T. (i znam da se tu i tamo još povremeno poigra sa svojom barbikom) je nedavno izjavila: "Kaj citaš stripove? To je ono za djecu?"
Daj mala briši! Znam, znam, ona je samo jadno dijete uhvacena u nemilosrdne zakulisne igre medija koji namecu svakojaki šund i time im peru mozak...
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled
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Djole
stripovi.com suradnik
Serbia
11876 Posts
Member since 03/11/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 22:16:29
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Zavera poklonika nikad previše pokojnog doktora Werthama! ;)
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DeeCay
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 22:27:47
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Originally posted by Djole
Zavera poklonika nikad previše pokojnog doktora Werthama! ;)
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Što sve covjek nece nauciti od tebe...
IN THE LATE 1940s and early 1950s, a distinguished psychiatrist named Dr. Fredric Wertham made a name for himself in the United States by leading a crusade against violent comic books. His 1954 book exposing the comic-book industry, Seduction of the Innocent , is still remembered in American comics fandom as a wildly exaggerated and overwrought polemic and has gone on to become a collector's item in its own right. Even the comic books mentioned in the text or used as source illustrations have also become collector's items because of their association with him and the book. Facing a public relations nightmare and hearings by the US Senate subcommittee on juvenile delinquency, fearful publishers either went out of business or banded together to form a Comics Code Authority that would censor comic books before some outside body did it for them.
American comics fans have no cause to love Dr. Wertham. They remember him as the man who attacked comics with his hysterical book, helped kill EC Comics (the one publisher doing anything like adult-level material), and brought on the Comics Code that reduced American comics to a childish mentality. Many fans have associated Dr. Wertham with Senator Joseph McCarthy, well-known for his anti-Communist crusade at about the same time, and legends circulate of Dr. Wertham accusing comic books of being a Communist plot or some such.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled
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A.Hodzic
Senior Member
Bosnia and Herzegovina
1146 Posts
Member since 01/05/2004 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 22:34:30
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Aco
stripovi.com suradnik
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Slovenia
6164 Posts
Member since 29/11/2001 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 22:46:14
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Kod mene je vec godinama ista situacija.99% posto prijatelja i 100% rodbine se nikako ne može nacuditi kako to da buduci doktor cita sripove jer je "ipak to za djecu i trebao bi citati strucnu literaturu".
Ispocetka me to jako smetalo ali sad se uopce ne obazirem na takve glupe izjave.
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Djole
stripovi.com suradnik
Serbia
11876 Posts
Member since 03/11/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 23:09:45
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Originally posted by DeeCay
Facing a public relations nightmare and hearings by the US Senate subcommittee on juvenile delinquency, fearful publishers either went out of business or banded together to form a Comics Code Authority that would censor comic books before some outside body did it for them.
Malko je komplikovanije od toga.
DC i Timely (koji ce se kasnije nazvati Marvel) nisu imali teoretske šanse da se nose sa EC-ijem i njihovim "odraslijim" stripovima - pa im je Wertham došao kao kec na desetku. Ionako su imali debilne scenarije, nije im smetalo da ih debiliziju još malo da bi ocistili konkurenciju, i tako su oformirmili zloglasni Comics Code koji je, arguably, u Americi uništio strip kao potencijalnu formu umetnosti.
EC je morao da se zatvori, a onda ga je DC kupio. Isto kao i Fawcett, koji je takode ruinirao tužbom.
Milina.
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Djole
stripovi.com suradnik
Serbia
11876 Posts
Member since 03/11/2002 |
Posted - 25/11/2004 : 23:10:58
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btw, Wertham je pred kraj života posato veliki pobornik more or less underground strip scene americkih fanzina.
Go figure.
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dobricina
Advanced Member
Croatia
4507 Posts
Member since 02/09/2004 |
Posted - 26/11/2004 : 01:17:19
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ah, te mame i njihova "cudesna" percepcija ispravnog zivljenja za njihovu djecu, a za sinove pogotovo....
DeeCay, vjerujem da su mnogi imali (ili još uvijek imaju) takve probleme, u djetinjstvu ili nešto kasnije, kako sa stripovima tako i sa erotskom "literaturom" :)))
Krstarim mrezom zlocina, radim red i tjeram pravdu, pronalazim super-negativce i pomazem super-junacima, dobricina pomaze kad se najmanje nadas! |
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realist
Senior Member
Croatia
1206 Posts
Member since 09/09/2003 |
Posted - 26/11/2004 : 08:52:34
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Wertham nije baš bio spasitelj Marvela,a pogotovo ne DC-ja.Cesto je uzimao Batmana za primjer,i navodio situacije gdje se Bruce Wayne i Dick (ovo mu je narocito sjelo) Grayson izležavaju polugoli na plaži,kad Bruce miluje Dicka po glavi kad je ovaj bolestan itd,itd.
Uglavnom,tip je moron.A ni Wertham nije baš bio cist :)))))
Bolje živjeti sto godina kao milijunaš,nego sedam dana u bijedi. |
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dobricina
Advanced Member
Croatia
4507 Posts
Member since 02/09/2004 |
Posted - 26/11/2004 : 09:29:53
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:))
Krstarim mrezom zlocina, radim red i tjeram pravdu, pronalazim super-negativce i pomazem super-junacima, dobricina pomaze kad se najmanje nadas! |
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