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zveles
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 23:40:36
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evo nekoliko preporuka, ali uzmi ih ipak s rezervom jer je to moj subjektivni ukus, pa je pitanje hoce li se i tebi jednako svidjeti.
- sleeper (izdavac wildstorm/dc) 4 trejda, fantasy/thriller - top ten (abc/wildstorm/dc) 2 trejda, fantasy/thriller/avantura (uskoro jos jedna nova knjiga + nova mini serija koja ce poslije biti trejd) - catwoman: selina's big score (dc) 1 trejd, klasicni thriller - superman: secret identity (dc) 1 trejd, fantasy/drama - savrsen strip
od horrora preporucam ovaj novi swamp thing (volume 4, izasla su 2 trejda za sada). crtan je savrseno, ali scenario je nesto slabiji. ne pada mi trenutno na pamet niti jedan dobar horror naslov - ili ih bas i nema puno, ili ih ja nekako preskacem... cini mi se da su thrilleri i svjetske zavjere sada nakon 9-11 najzastupljenije teme u americi. e, da... od sveg srca preporucujem i human target! (vertigo/dc, politicko-drustveni thriller). prvi trejd od biukovica, zatim graphic novel od pulida, pa dva ili tri trejda nove serije. nazalost cijela nova serija (21 sveska) nije objavljena u trejdovima i vjerojatno nece niti biti - slaba prodaja "pametnih" stripova oduvijek je bila karakteristicna za americko trziste. 
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Kant
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Markos
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 23:47:21
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
dvije nove preporuke americkih stripova, pa tko voli... 
black widow: homecoming (napisao britanski pisac richard k. morgan, nacrtali sienkiewicz i parlov). iznadprosjecan strip, spijunski thriller koji je odlicno postavljen i fino napisan, te dobro nacrtan.
Preporuka i s moje strane, mada bi vise volio da je to Parlov sam tusirao. Sienkiewicz je legenda, ali mislim da ovdje nije napravio bog zna kakav posao.
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Markos
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Posted - 12/07/2005 : 23:53:33
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quote: Originally posted by Kant
Moze par preporuka za neke pametne fantasy i horror serijale (a da nije Hellblazer, Sandman ili nesto iz IDW-a - jer njih pratim)? Poprilicno sam nov s "amerikancima" pa mi treba savjet nacitanijih, a to u ovom slucaju znaci i mudrijih . Hvala!
Moje preporuke Dungeon 1 & 2 by Sfaar & Trondhaim, te POGOTOVO Ordinary Victories Manu Larcenet (u biti puno toga sto izdaje nbm, a to su francuski albumi na engleskom). Ova tri albuma su jako jako dobra, i zaista ih toplo preporucam svima.
Od "pravih" americkih stripova, u zadnje vrijeme su mi se jako svidjeli Y the last Man, Fables, Sandman Mystery theatre & 100 Bullets. Nije bas sve fantasy & mystery, ali eto, vec kad pisem.
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zveles
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 00:19:31
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by zveles
dvije nove preporuke americkih stripova, pa tko voli... 
black widow: homecoming (napisao britanski pisac richard k. morgan, nacrtali sienkiewicz i parlov). iznadprosjecan strip, spijunski thriller koji je odlicno postavljen i fino napisan, te dobro nacrtan.
Preporuka i s moje strane, mada bi vise volio da je to Parlov sam tusirao. Sienkiewicz je legenda, ali mislim da ovdje nije napravio bog zna kakav posao.
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
zadnje dvije sveske je sienkiewicz stvarno otusirao povrsno i na brzinu, ali ja nisam potpuno zadovoljan niti s parlovom koji nekad dosta staticno kadrira ili u slikama nepotrebno ostavlja previse praznog prostora. ponekad se radnja odvija u doljnje dvije trecine slike, a gornja jedna trecina je potpuno prazna (npr. vidi se samo zid sobe, nema niti oblacica s tekstom na tom mjestu...) da ne bi bilo zabune: to su mini-detalji, stavljeni pod povecalo zato sto je goran nas i sve sto on napravi htijeli bismo da bude savrseno. konacan vizualni dojam black widow je ipak jako dobar. nije savrsen, ali je jako dobar.
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Markos
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 00:22:59
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
evo nekoliko preporuka, ali uzmi ih ipak s rezervom jer je to moj subjektivni ukus, pa je pitanje hoce li se i tebi jednako svidjeti.
- sleeper (izdavac wildstorm/dc) 4 trejda, fantasy/thriller - top ten (abc/wildstorm/dc) 2 trejda, fantasy/thriller/avantura (uskoro jos jedna nova knjiga + nova mini serija koja ce poslije biti trejd) - catwoman: selina's big score (dc) 1 trejd, klasicni thriller - superman: secret identity (dc) 1 trejd, fantasy/drama - savrsen strip
od horrora preporucam ovaj novi swamp thing (volume 4, izasla su 2 trejda za sada). crtan je savrseno, ali scenario je nesto slabiji. ne pada mi trenutno na pamet niti jedan dobar horror naslov - ili ih bas i nema puno, ili ih ja nekako preskacem... cini mi se da su thrilleri i svjetske zavjere sada nakon 9-11 najzastupljenije teme u americi. e, da... od sveg srca preporucujem i human target! (vertigo/dc, politicko-drustveni thriller). prvi trejd od biukovica, zatim graphic novel od pulida, pa dva ili tri trejda nove serije. nazalost cijela nova serija (21 sveska) nije objavljena u trejdovima i vjerojatno nece niti biti - slaba prodaja "pametnih" stripova oduvijek je bila karakteristicna za americko trziste. 
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Sleeper izaslo vec 4 trejda? Huh... Dobro, stavljeno na checklistu:-) Top-Ten se i meni jako svidio, bolji mi je od Promethe-e i Tom Stronga, u rangu sa LOEG. Human Target mi je najbolji Biukovicev, bez ikakve sumnje, ali ni ostali nisu losi...
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Markos
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 00:27:11
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by zveles
dvije nove preporuke americkih stripova, pa tko voli... 
black widow: homecoming (napisao britanski pisac richard k. morgan, nacrtali sienkiewicz i parlov). iznadprosjecan strip, spijunski thriller koji je odlicno postavljen i fino napisan, te dobro nacrtan.
Preporuka i s moje strane, mada bi vise volio da je to Parlov sam tusirao. Sienkiewicz je legenda, ali mislim da ovdje nije napravio bog zna kakav posao.
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
zadnje dvije sveske je sienkiewicz stvarno otusirao povrsno i na brzinu, ali ja nisam potpuno zadovoljan niti s parlovom koji nekad dosta staticno kadrira ili u slikama nepotrebno ostavlja previse praznog prostora. ponekad se radnja odvija u doljnje dvije trecine slike, a gornja jedna trecina je potpuno prazna (npr. vidi se samo zid sobe, nema niti oblacica s tekstom na tom mjestu...)
Pretpostavljam da je to zato sto ne zna gdje ce oblacici biti pa ostavlja mjesto za njih kako je naucio u Bonelliju, a to je na vrhu kadra. Inace se cesto zali kako mu uniste crteze sa oblacicima kad ih stave na kriva mjesta... Za staticnost, ne znam, ima par genijalnih akcionih scena, ona u vrtu po noci npr. je sjajno kadrirana i izgleda jako efektno.
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zveles
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 00:28:55
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mozda jos 4. trejd sleepera nije sluzbeno izasao, ja sam kupovao u sveskama, ali sigurno ce izaci. da, top ten je i meni najdrazi mooreov abc strip i jedva cekam ovu novu seriju koju rade drugi autori (i scenarist i crtac su novi, pa malo strepim ). biukovicev human target je legendaran, ali i ova nova serija nista ne zaostaje. nazalost, najbolje epizode nove serije za sada nisu u planu da izadju u trejdu. a stvarno su mrak dobre (napisane do jaja!). i nacrtane, pogotovo one koje crta chan.
fables je zakon! jednostavno, ne previse tesko stivo, a cita se s uzitkom i podsjeca na starinske fantasy stripove.
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zveles
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 00:35:08
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>zato sto ne zna gdje ce oblacici biti pa ostavlja mjesto za njih kako je naucio u Bonelliju
da, i ja sam tako predpostavio. ali, ne bi se smio opterecivati sa separacijama jer su ameri za to tata-mate. pogotovo u marvelu, koji je (stan lee) izmislio dinamican upis teksta, onaj koji je danas prepoznatljiv kao dio identiteta americkih stripova.
>ona u vrtu po noci npr. je sjajno kadrirana
i lose otusirana. sienkiewicz je tu divljao s tupom olovkom!  ova (crvenim strelicama oznacena) slikica je potpuno necitka i jedva se na njoj moze identificirati kopca remena black widow, tj. tesko da se iz ove slike moze vidjeti da je black widow ranjena. to ide na dusu (pero) sienkiewicza i takve stvari si bas ne bi smio dozvoliti. 

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GParlov
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 02:12:23
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But cu prije da sam ja nacrtao stvari , a da ih Bill nije istusirao.
A ovaj kadar ,osobno mislim da je pretjerao. Izgleda kao da je izmedu njih eksplodirala bomba. A to sto se ne kuzi da je BW tu ranjena je u redu,jer je tu probušen SWATovac! Ni sam ne kuzim šta je Morganu tu trebao taj insret kadar.Valjda ima neke veze sa falusnom simbolikom!


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zveles
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Kant
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 09:49:06
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by Kant
Moze par preporuka za neke pametne fantasy i horror serijale (a da nije Hellblazer, Sandman ili nesto iz IDW-a - jer njih pratim)? Poprilicno sam nov s "amerikancima" pa mi treba savjet nacitanijih, a to u ovom slucaju znaci i mudrijih . Hvala!
Moje preporuke Dungeon 1 & 2 by Sfaar & Trondhaim, te POGOTOVO Ordinary Victories Manu Larcenet (u biti puno toga sto izdaje nbm, a to su francuski albumi na engleskom). Ova tri albuma su jako jako dobra, i zaista ih toplo preporucam svima.
Od "pravih" americkih stripova, u zadnje vrijeme su mi se jako svidjeli Y the last Man, Fables, Sandman Mystery theatre & 100 Bullets. Nije bas sve fantasy & mystery, ali eto, vec kad pisem.
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
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Markos
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 10:48:22
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
mozda jos 4. trejd sleepera nije sluzbeno izasao, ja sam kupovao u sveskama, ali sigurno ce izaci. da, top ten je i meni najdrazi mooreov abc strip i jedva cekam ovu novu seriju koju rade drugi autori (i scenarist i crtac su novi, pa malo strepim ). biukovicev human target je legendaran, ali i ova nova serija nista ne zaostaje. nazalost, najbolje epizode nove serije za sada nisu u planu da izadju u trejdu. a stvarno su mrak dobre (napisane do jaja!). i nacrtane, pogotovo one koje crta chan.
Damn, nisam citao ovo sto nije izaslo u trejdu. Necu valjda morati kupiti i sveske? Top Ten bez Moore? Hm...
quote: Originally posted by zveles fables je zakon! jednostavno, ne previse tesko stivo, a cita se s uzitkom i podsjeca na starinske fantasy stripove.
Slazem se, bas se s lakocom cita, a zabavno je i zanimljivo.
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 11:48:05
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>> Originally posted by zveles >> fables je zakon! jednostavno, ne previse tesko stivo, a cita se s uzitkom i podsjeca na starinske fantasy stripove.
Starinski fantasy stripovi:))))))))))))))))))))))))) Name one!
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 15:53:41
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quote: Originally posted by Kant
Je li tko citao "Lore" od Ashley Wooda? Cini se zanimljivim, i lijepo je nacrtano...Isplati li se nabaviti?
naravno. pogotovu ako ga od mene kupish
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 16:42:17
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quote: Originally posted by BlekenDekara
quote: Originally posted by Kant
Je li tko citao "Lore" od Ashley Wooda? Cini se zanimljivim, i lijepo je nacrtano...Isplati li se nabaviti?
naravno. pogotovu ako ga od mene kupish
**************** look, maybe i didn`t say every little tiny syllable,no. but basically i said `em,yeah.
Moze malo vise informacija o stripu? |
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BlekenDekara
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 19:37:45
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ne mere:) mrzelo me da ga chitam:))) nakanitju se valjda vecheras pa mozda se predomislim glede prodaje:)PPP
**************** look, maybe i didn`t say every little tiny syllable,no. but basically i said `em,yeah. |
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Kant
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Posted - 13/07/2005 : 20:12:49
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quote: Originally posted by BlekenDekara
ne mere:) mrzelo me da ga chitam:))) nakanitju se valjda vecheras pa mozda se predomislim glede prodaje:)PPP
**************** look, maybe i didn`t say every little tiny syllable,no. but basically i said `em,yeah.
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alen
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Posted - 14/07/2005 : 09:34:39
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Imam jedno pitanje: Sto je to trade? Vidim da se taj termin cesto koristi kod USA stripova, s kojima nemam previse iskustva.
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zveles
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Posted - 14/07/2005 : 09:38:15
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trade, po vuku "trejd", ili skracenica TPB je knjiga u kojoj je objavljeno nekoliko sveski stripa odjednom. obicno je sakupljeno izmedju 4 i 6 sveski i one su ponovno otisnute kao knjiga, tj. trejd. trejd obuhvaca neku cjelinu, kompletan strip koji je u sveskama izlazio u nastavcima. za primjer trejda kod nas, pogledaj knjigu macan/biukovic: grendel - ponos vragova. to je jedan klasican trejd.
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alen
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Posted - 14/07/2005 : 09:43:47
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quote: Originally posted by zveles
trade, po vuku "trejd", ili skracenica TPB je knjiga u kojoj je objavljeno nekoliko sveski stripa odjednom. obicno je sakupljeno izmedju 4 i 6 sveski i one su ponovno otisnute kao knjiga, tj. trejd. trejd obuhvaca neku cjelinu, kompletan strip koji je u sveskama izlazio u nastavcima. za primjer trejda kod nas, pogledaj knjigu macan/biukovic: grendel - ponos vragova. to je jedan klasican trejd.
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Hvala. Grendele sam procitao, na zalost jos nemam svoj primjerak, ali planiram kupiti.
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