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Vili Garvin
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igorpb
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Australia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 12:15:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send igorpb a Private Message
Oni samo pisu kako ih Mr No izgovara.

I dok sjedim ovdije u hladu i kroz prozor posmatram njega kontam da je Frojd u pravu i da je Sex korijen svega.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 12:53:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message
Pa da, Mr.No je u stvari nepismen,sta si drugo ocekivao od coveka koji zivi medju Indiosima? ;-))))

but i`ll take my time anywhere,free to speak my mind anywhere,and i`ll redefine anywhere,anywhere i roam,where i lay my head is home...
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 13:56:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message


Ma bilo je kod Vanninija takvih gresaka u svakoj epizodi, ali to im je, uz "lomljivost" kartona na kojem su stampane korice, bila jedina mana, u svemu ostalom Vannini je bio super.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 14:06:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message
Vannini je bio dobar,nisam bas puno gresaka primetio,mada eto i ludens ima gresaka,ponajvise ima dosta ispremetanih slova,ali ajd sad..;-))
O Horusu nemam reci,to je vec sience fiction ;-))

but i`ll take my time anywhere,free to speak my mind anywhere,and i`ll redefine anywhere,anywhere i roam,where i lay my head is home...
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 14:11:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
"Horus" je u tom pogledu jos i najbolji, i to zato sto su rucno upisivali tekst. Ono "kiNDapovanje" im je jedina greska, jeste ogromna, ali ni "idiJot" nije mnogo manja.
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manhunter
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Switzerland
25296 Posts

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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 14:51:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message
Horus nije imao puno gramatickih grešaka,ali im je prevod bio katastrofalan.Evo primera iz jednog K.Mikija:
"samo izvoli naduvenko,naci ceš hleb za svoje zube.."
"rendžer puca kao mitraljez.."
"joj,kakav šund.."
"kušuj ti secikožo!"
"samo sam hteo da fazoniram bradu.."

i tako dalje,i tako bliže..;-))

but i`ll take my time anywhere,free to speak my mind anywhere,and i`ll redefine anywhere,anywhere i roam,where i lay my head is home...
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Markos
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Croatia
29355 Posts

Member since 27/08/2001

Posted - 05/08/2005 : 17:10:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Vili Garvin

Citao sam razene rasprave-ko je bolji junak crtac,ovo ili ono izdanje,a o pravopisnim i slicnim greskama ni reci.Skoro sam procitao Vaninijev MNO 1-2 Opasne vode-Vreme nasilja i primetio da umesto idioti pise IDIJOTI i iskidao od smeha.Ali nije to jedina greska ,bilo ih je nekolicina.I kod System Comicsa nisu imuni na slicne stvari(umesto Ukrajina-Ukraina,umesto manija-mania i sl.) i jos par slicnih gramaticko-pravopisnih gresaka, a o Horusu i da ne pricam.Da li to jos nekom smeta ili sam samo ja u pitanju ili ove grske spadaju u kolateralnu stetu objavljivanja stripova?


Meni to jako smeta, ali sam prestao sa ponavljanjem jednih te istih stvari posto me pojedinci optuzuju da sam zlonamjeran. Jedino sto mogu je truditi se da nasa izdanja budu sto kvalitetnije napravljena, sto se toga tice.

Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
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Star Wars
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Croatia
1076 Posts

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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 17:27:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Star Wars's Homepage  Send Star Wars a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by manhunter

Vannini je bio dobar,nisam bas puno gresaka primetio,mada eto i ludens ima gresaka,ponajvise ima dosta ispremetanih slova,ali ajd sad..;-))
O Horusu nemam reci,to je vec sience fiction ;-))

but i`ll take my time anywhere,free to speak my mind anywhere,and i`ll redefine anywhere,anywhere i roam,where i lay my head is home...



To sam i ja skužio u Zagorima.
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makikatalinic
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 17:49:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send makikatalinic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by Vili Garvin

Citao sam razene rasprave-ko je bolji junak crtac,ovo ili ono izdanje,a o pravopisnim i slicnim greskama ni reci.Skoro sam procitao Vaninijev MNO 1-2 Opasne vode-Vreme nasilja i primetio da umesto idioti pise IDIJOTI i iskidao od smeha.Ali nije to jedina greska ,bilo ih je nekolicina.I kod System Comicsa nisu imuni na slicne stvari(umesto Ukrajina-Ukraina,umesto manija-mania i sl.) i jos par slicnih gramaticko-pravopisnih gresaka, a o Horusu i da ne pricam.Da li to jos nekom smeta ili sam samo ja u pitanju ili ove grske spadaju u kolateralnu stetu objavljivanja stripova?


Meni to jako smeta, ali sam prestao sa ponavljanjem jednih te istih stvari posto me pojedinci optuzuju da sam zlonamjeran. Jedino sto mogu je truditi se da nasa izdanja budu sto kvalitetnije napravljena, sto se toga tice.

Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy



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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 18:41:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message
Ta izdanja imaju daleko najveci broj gramatickih pogrešaka. Možda uvjet za zaposlenje prevoditelj ili unositelja teksta nije bio "izricito poznavanje gramatike"

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Was convincing the world he didn't exist,
That was his power...
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---dp---
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Posted - 05/08/2005 : 19:56:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Trebalo bi da takve stvari budu regulisane zakonom, ali kod nas daleko vaznije i vitalnije stvari nisu regulisane...
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nedim
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 15:22:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nedim a Private Message
ko radi taj i ... ma mene nervira i kad zamjene text likovima u istoj slicici. (sto bi trebao da kaze jedan oni stave drugom:((
neko je spomenuo i to da takve situacije znaju da budu jako komicne pa se onda jos i posteno nasmijemo ;))
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Kant
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Croatia
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 18:17:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Kant a Private Message
Meni se cini da ju rijec o neprofesionalnosti. A postoji i lektorska sluzba valjda...
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nedim
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 18:23:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send nedim a Private Message
koja onda ocito ne radi svoj posao
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Kant
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Croatia
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 18:24:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Kant a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nedim

koja onda ocito ne radi svoj posao



Ocito ne...
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---dp---
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 22:54:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Da, ali lektorska sluzba kosta, treba to nekome (lektoru, pretpostavljam) i platiti, a situacija kod nas sa stripovima je takva da se time bave jos samo zanesenjaci koji to rade iz ljubavi...
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risbozg
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Posted - 15/08/2005 : 23:32:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send risbozg a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by manhunter

Pa da, Mr.No je u stvari nepismen,sta si drugo ocekivao od coveka koji zivi medju Indiosima? ;-))))

but i`ll take my time anywhere,free to speak my mind anywhere,and i`ll redefine anywhere,anywhere i roam,where i lay my head is home...





- --ak ti je slaba pamet moraš imat jaka leda --
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Kant
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 10:39:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Kant a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ---dp---

Da, ali lektorska sluzba kosta, treba to nekome (lektoru, pretpostavljam) i platiti, a situacija kod nas sa stripovima je takva da se time bave jos samo zanesenjaci koji to rade iz ljubavi...



Sve to sa zanesenjacima stima. i dobro je da je tako. ali je strip ipak priznati medij koji zasluzuje odredjenu dozi profesionalizma. Kako strip i netko moze shvatiti kao umjetnost ako se dogadjaju takve pogreske. Ili izdavaci misle da stripove citaju samo maloumnici...
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plavi
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 11:31:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send plavi a Private Message
Sta fali,"idijoti" je bas smesno,privlaci deci i svakom ko cita strip paznju.Dodje mu kao "comic relief".
Jedno vreme sam i ja iz zezanja koristio to "j" viska,nekako daje tezinu toj tvrdnji...
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BlekenDekara
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 11:36:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send BlekenDekara a Private Message
tjah digoste frku oko toga shto prevodilac voli kud idijote :)pPpP

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Star Wars
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 11:44:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Star Wars's Homepage  Send Star Wars a Private Message
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Profesor
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 12:00:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Profesor a Private Message
Bas lepo sto je i ovo doslo na tapetu.Mene licno sitne pravopisne greske ne nerviraju toliko koliko losi prevodi.A to je narocito izrazeno od prevoda sa Francuskog.Stripoteku izuzetno postujem, ali je to kod njih vise nego izrazeno.Ispocetka sam mislio da je to do autora, a onda sam skapirao da se to ponavlja samo kod Francuskih stripova.Naime desavalo se na momente da izgovoreni teks(recenice) nemaju neki narocito logiocan smisao ili je ista skroz zbrkana a njen smisao neuhvatljiv(Videti Poslednju Lutku od slonovace i Kratku epizodu Valerijana).Oseca se nedostatak lektora i to jako.Na momente to je prisutno i kod System-a- kod Italijanskih stripova.
Mislim da svaki ozbiljan prevod zahteva i lektorsku obradu.
Gramaticke greske svi mi mozemo lako ispraviti,ali losi prevodi kvare sveukupno uzivanje u stripu,a katkad mogu i da ga uniste.
Uzimajte lektore!!!!!!
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makikatalinic
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 14:48:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send makikatalinic a Private Message
IdiJotizam - stvar koja nikad nece prestati...

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---dp---
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Posted - 16/08/2005 : 17:38:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Meni ne smetaju sitne greske, ali ih je kod Vanninija bilo ipak previse, moram ih jednom izbrojati u "Ulici Bejker" (ili prethodnom, ne secam se), mislim da ih ima bar 50...
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