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Kant
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 17:15:59
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Ne razumijem. Trziste u ex-yu drzavama nije otvoreno novim stripovima, tocno. Medjutim, Zagor i Dylan Dog se odlicno prodaju. Po svom konceptu ovaj strip bi se MORAO svidjeti velikoj vecini onih koji vole Zagora, a i mnogim dilandogovcima. Da se radilo na reklami, vjerojatno bi i danas izlazio na kioscima u SCG.
Istina, ali danas uglavnom stripove kupuju ljudi koji su bili djeca u 80-ima i izgleda da imaju otpor prema onome sto nisu citali u djetinjstvu. Sigurno je MV danas bolji od Zagora pa mozda i DD-a ali to mnogima jednostavno nije to. Ne znam, cini mi se da je glavni (ako ne i iskljucivi) impuls kupovanja stripova kod prosjecnog konzumenta danas nostalgija. |
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Dado
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 17:29:20
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Oooooo, sad se i samaramo Necu ti zalijevati cvijece ako ne priznas da sam u pravu:-)
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
Zalijes ga ali nekom kiselinom :)) |
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Dado
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Switzerland
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 18:09:34
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
hmmm... lepe boje na naslovnoj, ali konj mi nije bas "zglavan". anatomija bas nije u redu - tanke i kratke noge (posebno prednje), glava dugacka kao i vrat?! jel' se to samo meni cini?
___________ "In my Havana cabana I'll eat something sweet like banana..."
Cini ti se. Nemaju konji idealne mjere po kojima bi trebali izgledati, kao ni ljudi. Ako bacis pogled na leksikon zivotinja odnosno konja vidjet ces koliko ih vrsta ima i kako totalno drukcije izgledaju. Neki imaju kratke noge, neki dugacke vratove i obrnuto, pa zato mislim da anatomija nije bas tako pogresna kako ti se cini. Evo samo jedan primjer...
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Koresh
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 20:16:13
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quote: Originally posted by Kant
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Ne razumijem. Trziste u ex-yu drzavama nije otvoreno novim stripovima, tocno. Medjutim, Zagor i Dylan Dog se odlicno prodaju. Po svom konceptu ovaj strip bi se MORAO svidjeti velikoj vecini onih koji vole Zagora, a i mnogim dilandogovcima. Da se radilo na reklami, vjerojatno bi i danas izlazio na kioscima u SCG.
Istina, ali danas uglavnom stripove kupuju ljudi koji su bili djeca u 80-ima i izgleda da imaju otpor prema onome sto nisu citali u djetinjstvu. Sigurno je MV danas bolji od Zagora pa mozda i DD-a ali to mnogima jednostavno nije to. Ne znam, cini mi se da je glavni (ako ne i iskljucivi) impuls kupovanja stripova kod prosjecnog konzumenta danas nostalgija.
To sam osobno dozivio, a i mislim da je to cest slucaj. Da li je MV bolji od današnjeg Zagora to je škakljivo pitanje, ali istina je da je puno, puno kvalitetniji od Zagora koji je izlazio u vrijeme kada su ti ljudi bili djeca.
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Kant
Average Member
  
Croatia
716 Posts
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 21:36:25
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Ja sam dijete osamdesetih i smatram da Zagor ni tada, ali ni danas ipak nije strip koji je imao bas zahtjevne scenarije. tu je MV sigurno u prednosti, sto ipak ne znaci da je on opet nekakva posebna literarna vrijednost... |
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kico
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/08/2005 : 23:32:38
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I ja sam dijete osamdesetih,pa sada gledajuci sve one Zagorove epizode koje su mi prirasle srcu jedva cekam ih ponovo vidit u Ludensovome izdanju.Dylan Dog se sredinom osamdesetih pojavio naglo i ispocetka mi nije bio nešto,dok nisam malo porastao.Tad mi je postao kult! Današnje epizode su totalno drugacije od tadašnjih,vezano uz DD. Danas dobre Dylanove epizode dobivamo na kapaljku,a Magicni je tu u sredini da potvrdi nastalu rupu u svemu tome. Totalno novi strip,koji me osvojio odmah.Malo westerna,malo magije,malo legendi,malo horrora.Stvarno je šteta što ne izlazi cešce... |
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marlowe
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Djole
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 01:16:51
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quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Da li je MV bolji od današnjeg Zagora to je škakljivo pitanje, ali istina je da je puno, puno kvalitetniji od Zagora koji je izlazio u vrijeme kada su ti ljudi bili djeca.
Kad sam ja bio dete, izlazio je Sklavijev Zagor, a Manfredi i Buratini Sklaviju mogu samo da pljunu pod prozor.
-- "Si tous les generaux et amiraux du monde, quelles que soient le couleurs et les etoiles, avaient chacun un chat sur les genoux, hebin moi, je me sentirais vachement mieux, moi!" |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 09:12:27
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Kakav Sclavijev Zagor?
Tu se radi o svega nekoliko epizoda: Prokleto blago, Na krilima noci, Vuk Samotnjak, Divovi dobra i zla..., mozda ima jos koja. Premalo i prerijetko da bi se to razdoblje nazivalo Sclavijevim Zagorom. |
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Kant
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Croatia
716 Posts
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 11:45:31
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Kakav Sclavijev Zagor?
Tu se radi o svega nekoliko epizoda: Prokleto blago, Na krilima noci, Vuk Samotnjak, Divovi dobra i zla..., mozda ima jos koja. Premalo i prerijetko da bi se to razdoblje nazivalo Sclavijevim Zagorom.
Sclavi je pisao Zagora par godina...Ima dosta njegovih epizoda. |
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 11:51:13
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Destak godina, cini mi se, ali nisu "zgusnuto" izlazile. U ZS nisu uvijek navodili scenarista, ali mislim da tih prica nema vise od deset, no mozda grijesim. I Zakon Predaka/Sveti Breg/Hiljadu Lica straha je valjda njegov. |
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Kant
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 13:22:58
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Destak godina, cini mi se, ali nisu "zgusnuto" izlazile. U ZS nisu uvijek navodili scenarista, ali mislim da tih prica nema vise od deset, no mozda grijesim. I Zakon Predaka/Sveti Breg/Hiljadu Lica straha je valjda njegov.
Ne znam ipak toliko o Zagoru. Neka kazu bolji poznavaoci... |
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Dado
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Switzerland
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 13:26:09
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Destak godina, cini mi se, ali nisu "zgusnuto" izlazile. U ZS nisu uvijek navodili scenarista, ali mislim da tih prica nema vise od deset, no mozda grijesim. I Zakon Predaka/Sveti Breg/Hiljadu Lica straha je valjda njegov.
24 redovna broja i ciko specijalac broj 6 Cak je imao 13 brojeva koji su izlazili jedan za drugim, medju njima mec stoljeca, noc uzasa, pecina cudovista, plamena lobanja, covjek munja, vuk samotnjak, demonska maska... pa i onaj u boji koji je izasao u A4 formatu, prokleto blago.
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VALTER
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 13:42:24
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Uh, onda sam pogrijesio, i moze se govoriti o Sclavijevom Zagoru.
Ja sam mislio da je on uletio s par epizoda tijekom osamdesetih, vjezbajuci za Dylana Doga.
Ali mnoge od ovih nabrojanih epizoda nikako nisu vrhunci Zagora (mec stoleca, covek munja) - i Burattinijevi Chico specijali su mi osobno svi bolji od Cika u Drakulinom dvorcu.
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Edited by - VALTER on 27/08/2005 13:49:29 |
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Žiga
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 15:49:56
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Ali mnoge od ovih nabrojanih epizoda nikako nisu vrhunci Zagora (mec stoleca, covek munja) - i Burattinijevi Chico specijali su mi osobno svi bolji od Cika u Drakulinom dvorcu.
To je meni jedan od najlošijih Zagora ikad.Toliko nekreativna i zbrzana prica + užasan crtež Gambe = fatal error  |
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Zole
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 15:54:20
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Destak godina, cini mi se, ali nisu "zgusnuto" izlazile. U ZS nisu uvijek navodili scenarista, ali mislim da tih prica nema vise od deset, no mozda grijesim. I Zakon Predaka/Sveti Breg/Hiljadu Lica straha je valjda njegov.
Capone. Sjajna prica.
Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! Inter! Zagor! |
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Djole
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/08/2005 : 16:03:26
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To bejaše ona "posveta" Kingovom IT-u?
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VALTER
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