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stinky
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Posted - 24/08/2002 : 14:08:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message
Evo držim u rukama album XIII-ice (Posljednji svjedok) i gledam popis na zadnjoj korici. Zanima me da li su svih 11 prijašnjih epizoda prevedene i objavljene na ovim prostorima. Ako jesu, gdje, u kojim izdanjima i gdje se mogu nabaviti? (najviše me zanima za epizode 7, 8, 9, 10, 11)



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Floyd
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Posted - 24/08/2002 : 15:12:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Floyd a Private Message
Moze na DC-u da ce nadje 15-ak albuma XIII-ice, ali na francuskom.

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stinky
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Posted - 25/08/2002 : 21:59:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message
OK, Floyde, ali mene zanima prevedeno. Jel zna neko odgovor na gore postavljeno pitanje?

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sigismundus
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Posted - 25/08/2002 : 22:11:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sigismundus a Private Message
Objava XIII- prevodi

Pa, sad ovako, na pamet to ne znam. Ali XIII broj 7 objavljena je u albumu u Hrvatskoj (pre vise godina), a vjecina ostalih, sto ih trazis, objavljena je u Politikinom zabavniku Neke imam, neke ne. Pogledacu sto imam, pa neka onda dopuni neko ko ima. Brojevi 1-6 objavljeni su u Superu i gigantu. Odgovor cu dati za dva-tri dana.

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XIII
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Posted - 25/08/2002 : 23:50:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
dd fan je u nekom od ranijih topica napisao u kojim brojevima politikinog zabavnika je izlazio ovaj strip. Ja sam za vikend nesto listao svoju "biblioteku" i cini mi se da je jedna od epizoda u pz od 2297-2299 *meni nedostaje ovaj zadnji*, ali neznam o kojem broju je rec, jer su ga preveli XIII protiv broja I sto bi u originalu trebalo da odgovara osmom albumu originala

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sigismundus
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Posted - 26/08/2002 : 05:40:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sigismundus a Private Message
Hvala trinaestice, ustedio si mi vreme. Potrazio sam post ddfana, gdje je on naveo tacne brojeve.
Pa, uz njegovo dopustenje, citiram ga, i zahvaljujem:
broj 8 (2297-2299)
broj 9 (2345-2346)
broj10 (2264-2266)
broj11 (2320-2323)

Pa, fotokopije toga sto imam, mogu ti napravit. Zabavnika naravno. Album bi se ostetio, jer je softcover. Inace mislim, da imam bar dva, ako ne cak tri Politikina zabavnika sa kompletnim epizodama. Samo kazi, pa ti saljem.

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stinky
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Posted - 26/08/2002 : 11:59:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message
Hvala, sigismundus, pošalji mi fotokopije XIII-ice. Šaljem ti mail.

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sigismundus
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Posted - 06/09/2002 : 05:11:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send sigismundus a Private Message
dopuna informacije o XIII
objave u Politikinom zabavniku

album 8 (2297-2299)
album 9 (2345-2346)
album 10 (2264-2266)
album 11 (2320-2323)


1. Trinaestica protiv broja jedan (Politikin zabavnik 2297,2298,2299, datumi: od 16.2.1996 do 1.3.1996) =Treize
contre un (album 8)

2. El Kaskador (Politikin zabavnik 2264,2265, 2266 (datumi: od 9.6.1995-23.6.1995) = El Cascador (album 10)

3. Tajna srebrnih satova (Politikin zabavnik 2320, 2321, 2322, 2323, datumi- od26.7.1996-16.8.1996)= Trois
montres d'argent (album 11)
Znaci ja nemam albuma 9, sto je izasao u Politikinom zabavniku i ne znam tocne datume

No, originalni naslovi idu ovako:

album 1: Le jour du soleil noir (1984)
album 2: La ou va l'indien (1985)
album 3: Toutes les larmes de e l'enfer (1986)
album 4: Spads (1987)
album 5: Rouge total (1988)
album 6: Le dossier Jason Fly (1989)
album 7: La nuit du 3 aout (1990) ( u prevodu: Noc treceg kolovoza- kolor
album, hrvatski)
album 8: Treize contre un (1991)
album 9: Pour Maria (1992)
album 10: El Cascador(1994)
album 11:Trois montres d'argent (1995)
album 12: Le jugement (1997)
album 13: l'enquete (1999)
album 14: Secret defense (2000)
album 15: Lachez les chiens!(2002)

album 13 nije strip, nego veoma detajlan rezime prijasnih albuma . Izvanredno uraden. Moj francuski nije dovoljno jak, da prodrem u sve tancine i nijanse tog sizeja fabule.

Na engleskon su izasli samo prvo troje albuma. Kod Catalana.

pozdrav

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Chege
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Posted - 06/09/2002 : 08:08:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Chege a Private Message
Hey sigismundus jel mozes da posaljes brojeve trinaestica iz politikinog zabavnika ,takodje da mi napises ako znas gdje mogu naci te francuske verzije ili da mi ih posaljes ako imas. Moj username na streamloadu je Chege a mail dburza@hotmail.com.Posalji mi album 7(Cro) ako mozes.Ja imam prvih 6(tri giganta).
Adresa sajta o trinaestici na kojem mozete vidjeti naslovne stranice svih albuma o trinaestici http://www.bdxiii.com/pages/albums.html
Pitanje za floyda:Da li znas mozda adresu sajta ?

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seinfeld
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Posted - 27/11/2002 : 17:17:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Posto ima dosta topica o XIII o svemu i svacemu pisem ovdje jer je sigi ovdje postavio popis...

igrica je izasla (XIII) a LargoWinch igrica je bezveze.Strip je dobar a isto tako TV serija...Ovo je za onoga ko je to pitao na drugom topicu.

Ima li neko XII:the XIII mistery(The investigation to je broj 13) evo danas sam to nabavio i izgleda vrlo dobro 112 stranica super uradeno a takoder XIII nr1 Crni Petak(Zwarte Vrijdag=Black Friday)...

Evo mali popis XIII izdavac Dargaoud (Belgija/Flamanska) izdato na Holandskom jeziku:
1.Zwarte Vrijdag(Crni Petak)
2.Waar de indiaan gaat...(Gdje indijanac ide...)
3.Alle tranen van de hel(Sve suze pakla)
4.Spads
5.Rood Alarm(Red Alert)
6.Het dossier Jason Fly
7.De nacht van 3 augustus (Ta noc 3eg avgusta)
8.Dertien(XIII) tegen een(Trinaest protiv jednog)
9.Voor Maria(Za Mariju)
10.El Cascador
11.De drie zilveren horloges(3 srebrna casovnika)
12.Het vonnis(Presuda)
13.The XIII mystery-Het onderzoek (The XIII mystery-Istraga)
14.Staatsgevaarlijk!(Opasno(st) po/za drzavu)


Go ahead punk, make my day...



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seinfeld
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Posted - 27/11/2002 : 17:21:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Jel ko gledao The bourne identity to lici toliko na XIII...Da li je to neko primjetio?
Dobro moze se reci da je to bazirano na knjigu od Robert Ludlum ali bolje je ovako reci ;-)) jer je sam Van Hamme uvijek tvrdio da XIII samo igrom slucaja lici na tu knjigu ;-)))).

Go ahead punk, make my day...



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Dzimi Gitara
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ja sam se skoro prvi put sreo sa xiii i prva impresija je bila "prepisani Ludlum, tj Bornov identet. To sam bas i ja pitao ekipu na skupu u Bgd, da li i njima to lici. Sumnjivo!
btw, kakav je ovaj remake filma sa Mat Damonom?

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seinfeld
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Posted - 28/11/2002 : 11:10:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Dobar je film gledao sam ga proslog mjeseca i sigurno se moze uzivati!

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steinbrenner
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kog zanima, i dobar je u talijanskom, u trstu u non-solo-libri sam cuknuo brojeve od 1 do 9, na talijanskom naravski
izdani su u italiji i brojevi 10, 11, 12 i 13 ali ih trenutno nije bilo

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XIII
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Posted - 10/12/2002 : 16:38:06  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by seinfeld

Jel ko gledao The bourne identity to lici toliko na XIII...Da li je to neko primjetio?
Dobro moze se reci da je to bazirano na knjigu od Robert Ludlum ali bolje je ovako reci ;-)) jer je sam Van Hamme uvijek tvrdio da XIII samo igrom slucaja lici na tu knjigu ;-)))).

Go ahead punk, make my day...



Edited by - seinfeld on 27/11/2002 17:22:12



A sta je sa srvarnoscu gde imamo Seridana i Kenedija, Aziju i Vijetnam, El Cascador i Kubu i jos mnogo toga sto je slicno sa stvarnim zivotom.
Ne mozes se reci da je ovaj strip nacrtan Ladlam
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Renky
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Napokon! U zadnjem broju Stripoteke ( 976 ) najava je za prvu epizodu
XIII-ice " DAN CRNOG SUNCA " u formi strip albuma. Na zalost djeluje mi da ce biti meki uvez ali bar da bude u boji jer je neusporedivo bolji nego cb.
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Floyd
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Posted - 10/12/2002 : 22:04:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Floyd a Private Message
Da li neko zna gdje mogu da se nabave albumi XIII-ice koje je izdao Global Book pocetkom 90-tih (u boji i tvrdjih korica)?

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XIII
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Posted - 11/12/2002 : 15:34:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Floyd

Da li neko zna gdje mogu da se nabave albumi XIII-ice koje je izdao Global Book pocetkom 90-tih (u boji i tvrdjih korica)?

The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say...


Flojd jeli to prevedeno ili na nekkom stranom jeziku?
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Floyd
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Posted - 11/12/2002 : 20:03:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Floyd a Private Message
quote:

quote:
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Originally posted by Floyd

Da li neko zna gdje mogu da se nabave albumi XIII-ice koje je izdao Global Book pocetkom 90-tih (u boji i tvrdjih korica)?

The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say...

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Flojd jeli to prevedeno ili na nekkom stranom jeziku?



Prevedeno naravno, u boji sa odlicnom stampom.
Bas sam od druga uzimao sedmu epizodu (nastavlja se na one u GIGANTU sto su izasle) i sad sam se "zapalio" da nadjem komplet.

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seinfeld
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Posted - 11/12/2002 : 20:26:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Broj XIII(13) je mrak 112 strana u boji :-))!

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Spiderman
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Posted - 12/12/2002 : 13:07:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Spiderman's Homepage  Send Spiderman a Private Message
Rezime XIII:

album 1: Le jour du soleil noir (1984) - Covek koga treba ubiti - c/b, Gigant
album 2: La ou va l'indien (1985) - Tragom indijanaca - c/b, Gigant
album 3: Toutes les larmes de e l'enfer (1986) - Može da place - c/b, Gigant
album 4: Spads (1987) - Specijalci - c/b, Gigant
album 5: Rouge total (1988) - Totalno crveno - c/b, Gigant
album 6: Le dossier Jason Fly (1989) - Fly, ubij da bi ziveo - c/b, Gigant
album 7: La nuit du 3 aout (1990) - Noc treceg kolovoza - kolor album, hrvatski
album 8: Treize contre un (1991) - ??? - Politikin zabavnik 2297-2299
album 9: Pour Maria (1992) - ??? - Politikin zabavnik 2345-2346
album 10: El Cascador(1994) - ??? - Politikin zabavnik 2264-2266
album 11:Trois montres d'argent (1995) - ??? - Politikin zabavnik 2320-2323
album 12: Le jugement (1997)
album 13: l'enquete (1999)
album 14: Secret defense (2000)
album 15: Lachez les chiens!(2002)

Ispravite me ako grijesim. Ako ima jos koje izdanje sem onih u Super stripu napisite.

Jel izaslo jos koje hrvatsko izdanje sem broja 7 (Noc treceg kolovoza)?

Pozdrav

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Floyd
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Posted - 12/12/2002 : 20:57:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Floyd a Private Message
quote:

Jel izaslo jos koje hrvatsko izdanje sem broja 7 (Noc treceg kolovoza)?



Ja sam gledao jos jedan broj. Mislim da je bio broj 12.

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Chege
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Posted - 13/12/2002 : 09:28:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Chege a Private Message
Pozdrav svima.
Samo da kazem da sljedece sedmice kad mi skola zavrsi, stavicu prvih 6 epizoda XIII-e na streamload ili ako ne na streamload stavicu na kazaa. Takodje bih zamolio da svi vi sto imate ostale brojeve nadjete malo vremena i skenirate koji ostali broj XIII. Nema veze ako je na talijanskom ili holandskom,...

Takodje sto se tice filma The Bourne Identity ja mislim da nikad u zivotu nisam naisao na film koji me je toliko razocarao. Ako ste citali knjigu od Roberta Ladlama onda ce te shvatiti o cemu pricam. Sama knjiga je meni dugo godina bila broj jedan. Nemogu da shvatim kako je sam pisac mogao da pristane na tako nesto. Film je potpuno razlicit od knjige. Knjiga je bazirana na junaku kojeg pronalaze ribari na obali francuske bez pamcenja i ikakvog dokaza o proslosti. Ko je on bio prije, njegov identitet, kako je postao hladnokrvni ubica, sve se to nalazi u knjigi.Pored potrage za identitetom, glavna tema je Bourneova potraga za Sakalom i na kraju duel izmedju njih dvojice. Sakal je baziran na istinitom liku poznatog teroriste Iljic Ramirez Sanceza aka Carlos koji je bio strah i trepet 70 i 80-ih. Sama potraga za identitetom, nacin na koji on pronalazi Sakala i njihov finalni duel je ono glavno sto je sacinjavalo knjigu i sto je kod mene kao citaoca ostavilo jak utisak. Tip knjige koju citas bez daha i nadas se da neces nikad doci do kraja.

Film pocinje na isti nacin kao knjiga i sve do Bournevog izlaska iz banke je isto. Medjutim posle banke sve se mijenja, u cijelom filmu nema ni rijec o Sakalu( Carlosu). Film se svodi na ljubavnu pricu, nesto malo akcije i zavrsetku tipicnom za holivudske filmove. Moram da priznam da je jedino ono malo akcije bilo dobro uradjeno. Mogao sam odmah pretpostaviti da nesto nije u redu samim izborom junaka za film. Mat Damon vise lici na nekog klinca nego na hladnokrvnog ubojicu. Procitajte knjigu i razumicete ovo o cemu pisem.

Sto se tice XIII, i mene prvih par romana podsjeca na Ladlamovu knjigu, mozda je to pored dobrog crtanja razlog zasto mi se svidja XIII. Je li moze neko da opise radnju ostalih romana ako nadje vremena.
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seinfeld
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Chege evo ti nekoliko linkova za XIII
ovaj je najbolji, zakon je! http://www.bdxiii.com/pages/albums.html FR
http://members.lycos.nl/BestXIII/ ENG
http://www.geocities.com/strip_XIII/ NL

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seinfeld
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Posted - 13/12/2002 : 14:27:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message


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XIII
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Posted - 13/12/2002 : 17:24:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send XIII a Private Message
Ovako, da dodam
nisam citao Ladlamovu knjigu, a nisam gledao ni bornov identitet
sa Mat Dejmonom jer mislim da on nije za tu ulogu.
A to sto ti kazes Chege, da je radnja drugacija jer se nigde ne spominje Carlos
pogledaj ako nisi gledao Bornov identitet sa Ricardom Cemberlenom u glavnoj ulozi
Zbog utiska o tom filmu nisam ni zeleo da gledam remake
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