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mcn
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 13:31:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
Iliti: qolumna nova: http://qstrip.blog.hr/arhiva-2005-11.html#1620387732

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:23:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Iz osobnog iskustva mogu reci da neki podaci o SAF-u nisu precizni niti tocni, ali dobro. Sve je stvar dogovora.

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Djole
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:24:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Za Srbiju su i precizni i tacni, i nisu stvar dogovora.

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:28:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Moguce, tesko mi je reci. Jesi li pitao SAF osobno i dobio takav odgovor ili si cuo "iz provjerenih izvora"?

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prozirna senka
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:30:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Izuzetno ohrabrujuci textic;)

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Djole
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:31:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Video dva ugovora sa razlicitim firmama.

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:40:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
OK.

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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 14:45:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
Interesantan tekstic. Dosta se tracarilo o tim ugovorima sa Rustemagicem i SAF-om, bas cool sto se neko konacno odlucio da stavi sve to na papir.

Kad bi jos culi i te povoljnije uslove za Hrvatsku, npr. od Markosa, sto bi to tek sjajno bilo

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 15:12:09  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Ja ne mogu govoriti o ugovorima jer su nazalost, poslovna tajna. Samo mogu reci da je sve stvar dogovora.

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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 15:18:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
Ok, kapiram te ali ipak mislim da je fer da se javno zna. Djoletov tekst je dobro oslikao beznadje u kojem se srpsko izdavastvo stranih naslova nalazi bas zbog takvih nerealnih uslova. Beli Put, tj formiranje jake izdavacke kuce je naprosto bio iznudjen potez. Ne moze Dilan u Srbiji da donosi vecu zaradu izdavacu nego u Hrvatskoj. Nije ni cudo sto izdanja redom propadaju.

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 15:40:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by SANdMAN

Ok, kapiram te ali ipak mislim da je fer da se javno zna. Djoletov tekst je dobro oslikao beznadje u kojem se srpsko izdavastvo stranih naslova nalazi bas zbog takvih nerealnih uslova. Beli Put, tj formiranje jake izdavacke kuce je naprosto bio iznudjen potez. Ne moze Dilan u Srbiji da donosi vecu zaradu izdavacu nego u Hrvatskoj. Nije ni cudo sto izdanja redom propadaju.

/ Reason is always a kind of brute force /


Sto je lose u osnivanju velike izdavacke kuce?

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makikatalinic
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 15:46:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send makikatalinic a Private Message
Djole ni Macan ne spavaju...ccc! :DDD

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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 15:55:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos
Sto je lose u osnivanju velike izdavacke kuce?



Ni u cemu brate. Zar sam ja to rekao?

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prozirna senka
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 16:02:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Da.
Zipa ovo:"Beli Put, tj formiranje jake izdavacke kuce je naprosto bio iznudjen potez."

Zvuci ko da ti je zao sto Srbija ima (da li?) jaku izdavacku kucu:-P

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jurica
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 16:02:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
hmmm... s obzirom na troskove tiska, cini mi se da bi u RH troskovi bili jos veci. kakav je odnos poreza ovdje i tamo? ovdje se prica o izdanjima za kioske. ona su, cini mi se, u sustavu PDV? nije li Macan nekad rekao da Tisku kao distributeru ide 50% para?
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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 16:27:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by prozirna senka

Da.
Zipa ovo:"Beli Put, tj formiranje jake izdavacke kuce je naprosto bio iznudjen potez."

Zvuci ko da ti je zao sto Srbija ima (da li?) jaku izdavacku kucu:-P



izvlacis recenicu iz konteksta. isturena sama mozda ima taj smisao ali kad se termin "iznudjen potez" poveze sa "beznadjem" nista tu ne kvalifikuje beli put

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prozirna senka
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 16:51:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send prozirna senka a Private Message
Ne. Mogu i ceo post da kvotam, ne menja se nista. Ispalo je da kukas na postojanje Belog Puta. Ne impliciram da si to mislio, samo da je tako zvucalo.
Uostalom, markos ti je kvotao ceo post;)

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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 16:57:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
Ok, whatever.

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Markos
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 17:10:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Slazem se sa kolegom Senkom, ispalo je da ti je zao za BP.

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dexa pantelejski
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 17:20:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit dexa pantelejski's Homepage  Send dexa pantelejski a Private Message
Djole, shtampar koji bi radio strip boneli formata za 10 din po primerku je ili lud ili papir i boju nabavlja za dz.
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Djole
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 17:22:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ili ne placa porez.

Zato sam i napisao da takvu cenu treba i naci, i onda se ne žaliti što je strip katastrofa ispao.

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dexa pantelejski
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 17:28:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit dexa pantelejski's Homepage  Send dexa pantelejski a Private Message
Prema mojim saznanjima u BG-u takve stamparije nema. Cak i da imas svoju sopstvenu stampariju tesko da bi ti se tako nesto isplatilo jer na tirazu od 8000 ne racuna se samo papir i boja vec rad masine sto je dodatno skuplje. Stvarno ne mogu da zamislim koji bi to stampar usao u taj posao, pa cak i da je divljak (u Nishu ima oko 100 neprijavljenih stamparija) i da ne placa porez i tako to, jednostavno ne bi mogao da izbaci 8000 svezaka jer takvi imaju slabe mashine i ostalo pa ne mogu da postignu nesto tako zahtevno. Jebga, ovde kod nas se publikacije rade uglavnom u tirazu od 500 primeraka to je neki proses, knjiga stampana u 1000 je vec u "velikom" tirazu.
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Djole
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 17:32:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Nisam ni mislio samo na Beograd.

A moja inicijalna racunica je podrazumevala cenu od 15 dinara, ali sam onda dobio uveravanja da se "ispod žita" može dobiti i niža cena.

Enivej, sve navedeno u tom pasusu je tzv. "best case scenario", u kome bi primerak koštao 66 dinara. A realnije je 90 - 110 dinara, kao što rekoh. Deo toga ide i na vecu cenu štampe.

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SANdMAN
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Posted - 15/11/2005 : 18:44:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SANdMAN's Homepage  Send SANdMAN an ICQ Message  Send SANdMAN a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

Slazem se sa kolegom Senkom, ispalo je da ti je zao za BP.




Mozda je bilo bolje da sam napisao:

"Sa aspekta beznadja srpskog izdavastva osnivanje Belog Puta bio je naprosto iznudjen potez..."

(i u dodatku)
"...ALI POTEZ KOJI CE KVALITATIVNO UNAPREDITI SCENU, NUZAN POTEZ."


Mozda je trebalo jasnije se odrediti u recenici oko Belog Puta ali nikako ne stoji da sam se ja gornjom tvrdnjom vec odredio po pitanju Belog Puta vec ste vas dvojca ucitali izmedju redova, izveli zakljucak koji ne stoji direktno. Da gornja tvrdnja znaci eksplicitno ono sto vi tvrdite nikakav dodatak joj ne bi pomogao da dijametralno izmeni znacenje vec bi recenica postala kontradiktorna sama sebi.

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Edited by - SANdMAN on 15/11/2005 19:11:55
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seinfeld
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Moram reci da se Q blog lijepo razvio, svaka cast. Qeep it up !!

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tadicu ja kad budem izdavac ja cu te zaposlit za svog glasnogovornika
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