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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:27:54
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Zaista sam iznenadjen. Vidim da je tokom mesec dana reklamirane akcije glasanja clanova foruma na kraju ucestvovalo 193 clana foruma. A tamo dole pise da forum ima skoro 3700 clanova. Mislim, znam da ima ljudi sa dva tri, pa i deset nickova u isto vreme, znam da je puno dobrih ljudi otislo odavde, ali opet ovakva diskrepancija je gotovo perverzna. Tu su i razni botovi i ko zna kakve registracije, ali mislim da je krajnje vreme da se napravi malo reda i stekne prava slika. Recimo, da se napravi neki test u odredjenom vremenskom intervalu gde bi ljudi potvrdili svoju registraciju, pa bi onda otpali svi ti dupli i desetostruki nickovi, sve vestacke i automatske registracije...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:30:08
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A zašto ovaj topic nisi otvorio u svaštari? A i sam si koristio drugi nick dok ti je ovaj bio zakljucan.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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kiky
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:36:33
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Ma, rezultati su sasvim predvidljivi i ocekivani na ovom forumu. Zaista ne vidim nista sto iznenadjuje. Nije to uopste bitno, vec je ovde po meni nastala totalna dzungla koju valja rascistiti. Ja sam otvorio samo jedan nalog na ovom forumu.
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:44:22
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
Ma, rezultati su sasvim predvidljivi i ocekivani na ovom forumu. Zaista ne vidim nista sto iznenadjuje. Nije to uopste bitno, vec je ovde po meni nastala totalna dzungla koju valja rascistiti. Ja sam otvorio samo jedan nalog na ovom forumu.
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Pisao si pod nickom simi, a taj nick su koristili i koriste Rommel i sigi (za njih sam 1000 % siguran) i najvjerovatnije fašistoidni Boban.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:48:53
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Na ovom forumu nema botova, nemoguce se registrirati kao bot, ovaj forum nema takvih problema kao phpBB. Nadalje, ne postoji user sa deseterostrukim, najvise sto znam je vitruvian koji je imao 5 nickova, ali to se ionako NE BROJI, svi izbaceni i izbrisani clanovi ne ulaze u ovu brojku. Ako pogledas ID novog clana - njegov ID je 4080, znaci preko 300 clanova se ne broji. Dakle, clanova zaista ima 3700. Koliko ih je jedinstvenih, dali bi se raspravljati, ali u zadnjih godinu dana osobno odobravam nove clanove i ISKLJUCIVO ako imaju adresu tipa ime.prezime@koercijalnadomena , nitko sa anonimnom adresom ne moze proci. Nadalje, neki su tu samo zbog aukcija - a na aukcije otpada 1200 clanova, neki su se davno registrirali ali zbog tko zna cega vise ne dolaze itd itd... Dakle, sudeci po posjetu - imamo unique 2500 posjeta dnevno - i po recimo nekim pesimisticnim procjenama imamo otrpilike pola od 3700 vise ili manje aktivnih clanova.
Razlog za slabiji odaziv na izbor je, po mom sudu, lijenost. Na kraju krajeva, zasto ti nisi glasao?
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mifugo
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:51:28
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posve je normalno na svim forumima da bude 10 puta više registrirani clanova nego što ji doista piše... to je svuda tako...
quote: ali u zadnjih godinu dana osobno odobravam nove clanove i ISKLJUCIVO ako imaju adresu tipa ime.prezime@koercijalnadomena , nitko sa anonimnom adresom ne moze proci.
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:52:53
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quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
[quote][i]Pisao si pod nickom simi.
To nije nikakva tajna. Kada mi je nalog zakljucan u suprotnosti sa pravilima ovog foruma, tokom nekih godinu dana, nisam otvarao novi vec sam u jednom kracem periodu nekoliko puta logovao na nalog pirjatelja i napisao nekoliko komentara. Kada me je administrator zamolio da koristim moj nalog, shvativsi pretpostvavljam svoju gresku, ja sam mu pruzio jos jednu sansu. No, pitanje je sta raditi sa svim nepostojecim, duplim, vestackim desetostrukim i mrtvim nalozima? To je kao korov.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:54:09
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To ovdje sigurno nije tako. Zasto? Zato sto su korisnici foruma ujedno i korisnici aukcija - zbog mogucnosti zlouporabe aukcija svi korisnici moraju imati trejsabl mejl i upisano ime prezime i adresu u korisnickim podacima na aukcijama.
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 12:58:09
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Na kraju krajeva, zasto ti nisi glasao?
Ja nisam glasao zato sto sam sto materijalno sto profesionalno angazovan na nekoliko strip izdanja u konkurenciji, te bi bio cist konflikt interesa da glasam, bilo bi neobjektivno i to se ne radi. Nemoj mi reci da su neki autori, izdavaci, prevodioci ili druge poslovno zainteresovane strane ucestvovale u glasanju. To se ne radi. Nije eticki, u najmanju ruku. Pretpostavljam da je to ionako bilo onemoguceno.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:08:55
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
quote: Originally posted by SejoSexon
[quote][i]Pisao si pod nickom simi.
To nije nikakva tajna. Kada mi je nalog zakljucan u suprotnosti sa pravilima ovog foruma, tokom nekih godinu dana, nisam otvarao novi vec sam u jednom kracem periodu nekoliko puta logovao na nalog pirjatelja i napisao nekoliko komentara. Kada me je administrator zamolio da koristim moj nalog, shvativsi pretpostvavljam svoju gresku, ja sam mu pruzio jos jednu sansu. No, pitanje je sta raditi sa svim nepostojecim, duplim, vestackim desetostrukim i mrtvim nalozima? To je kao korov.
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Nema to veze s mojom greskom, nego sto nisam htio ti da koristis isti nick kao i neki drugi meni dragi ljudi. Mrtve accounte mogu brisati, ali cemu? Svako toliko mi se na mail javi netko tko je davno bio logiran pa zaboraviopassword pa pita sta sad.
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Solid Snake
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:11:32
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quote: Originally posted by marlowe
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Na kraju krajeva, zasto ti nisi glasao?
Ja nisam glasao zato sto sam sto materijalno sto profesionalno angazovan na nekoliko strip izdanja u konkurenciji, te bi bio cist konflikt interesa da glasam, bilo bi neobjektivno i to se ne radi. Nemoj mi reci da su neki autori, izdavaci, prevodioci ili druge poslovno zainteresovane strane ucestvovale u glasanju. To se ne radi. Nije eticki, u najmanju ruku. Pretpostavljam da je to ionako bilo onemoguceno.
Zasto bi bilo onemoguceno? Ja sam glasao i stavio Wathcmene na prvo mjesto, bez problema.
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milan2.0
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:17:59
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Inace, evo, sad sam provjerio, 1036 korisnika ima datum zadnjeg posjeta unutar zadnja 4 mjeseca (tj. od 1.10.2006), a njih 511 je ostavilo post unutar istog razdoblja.
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:27:00
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
[quote][i]Zasto bi bilo onemoguceno? Ja sam glasao i stavio Wathcmene na prvo mjesto, bez problema.
To je neozbiljno, u najmanju ruku. To se nikada ne radi. Ili se vrsi glasanje fanova gde su profesionalno angazovani iskljuceni, ili se vrsi glasanje medju kolegama gde je onemoguceno dati glas sopstvenom kandidatu. Onda je situacija jos gora. Glasalo je dakle 5% clanova, a tvoje je objasnjenje da je 95% njih lenjih. Tu ima barem 2000 laznih clanova.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:31:13
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To se nikada ne radi? Nisam bas siguran. Pa evo, Trondhaim je direktor festivala u Angoulemu i predsjednik zirija, a ujedno je i urednik u Delcourtu. I stavio je neke "svoje" stripove u sluzbeni izbor. Takvih primjera ima koliko hoces.
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:36:08
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I naravno, za lazne clanove se ne slazem. I sigurno da je najveci razlog lijenost ili nezainteresiranost.
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desperado
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marlowe
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 13:42:00
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Inace, evo, sad sam provjerio, 1036 korisnika ima datum zadnjeg posjeta unutar zadnja 4 mjeseca (tj. od 1.10.2006), a njih 511 je ostavilo post unutar istog razdoblja.
Eto, 1036 u poslednja cetiri meseca. Gde su onih 2600? Koliko u poslednjih godinu dana?
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lwood
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 14:02:22
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ja osobno znan 3 clana iz ST šta su rjetko ili nikad na forumu,a stalno na aukcijama.ljude jednostavno ne zanima. nažalost 
inner fear your worst enemy ostali smo svi na tripu,staro,mlado život cili ,ostali smo svi na tripu pivajuci NAPRID BILI!! zapali coviku vatru i ugrija si ga za jedan dan,zapali covika i ugrija si ga za cili život! |
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jurica
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lwood
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 14:04:59
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a sigurno ima duplih nickova ,možda da je brisat one koji godinu dana nisu bili na aukciji ili forumu.ne znan,bezveze da ima 3700 clanova a po forumu piše njih 100. i možda ih ima 500 na aukcijama.di je ostalih 3000 ??
inner fear your worst enemy ostali smo svi na tripu,staro,mlado život cili ,ostali smo svi na tripu pivajuci NAPRID BILI!! zapali coviku vatru i ugrija si ga za jedan dan,zapali covika i ugrija si ga za cili život! |
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lwood
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 14:07:13
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quote: Originally posted by jurica
koga briga?
zasto je to uopce vazno?
zbog nacionalne sigurnosti 
inner fear your worst enemy ostali smo svi na tripu,staro,mlado život cili ,ostali smo svi na tripu pivajuci NAPRID BILI!! zapali coviku vatru i ugrija si ga za jedan dan,zapali covika i ugrija si ga za cili život! |
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Dok Lester
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 14:09:24
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
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zbog nacionalne sigurnosti 
jel to ona komedija sa martinom lawrenceom?   
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Markos
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 14:10:47
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U posljednjih godinu dana 1800. Ali kazem ti, ne mozes to tako racunati. Zato jer puno ljudi prati forum anonimno, odlogirano i onda nisu u statistici i zasto sto recimo imas 1200 korisnika aukcija od kojih njih bar pola nije nikad ostavilo post na forumu, nikad nisu ni bili na forumu - ali da li su oni clanovi sajta? Naravno da jesu. Moja procjena je negdje 2200 ljudi koji vise ili manje redovito posjecuju sajt, a to govore i logovi.
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