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Raven84
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 11:00:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raven84 a Private Message
Evo, objavljen je popis nominiranih za Eisnera. http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=109515
Moram priznat da za puno nominiranih autora ni stripova nikad nisam cuo. Osobito u kategoriji za best single issue. Mozda netko zna vise o njima? I zanimljivo je da se jedna manga probila u best continuing series. Monster od Urasawe.


Nitko nije beskoristan, uvijek moze posluziti kao los primjer.

Djole
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 11:22:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Nominees, 2007,Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards

Best Short Story
”The Black Knight Glorps Again,” by Don Rosa, in Uncle Scrooge #354 (Gemstone)
“Felix,” by Gabrielle Bell, in Drawn & Quarterly Showcase 4 (Drawn & Quarterly)
“A Frog’s Eye View,” by Bill Willingham and James Jean, in Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)
“Old Oak Trees,” by Tony Cliff, in Flight 3 (Ballantine)
“Stan Lee Meets Spider-Man,” by Stan Lee, Oliver Coipel, and Mark Morales, in Stan Lee Meets Spider-Man (Marvel)
“Willie: Portrait of a Groundskeeper,” by Eric Powell, in Bart Simpsons’s Treehouse of Horror #12 (Bongo)

Best Single Issue (or One-Shot)
Batman/The Spirit #1: “Crime Convention,” by Jeph Loeb and Darwyn Cooke (DC)
A Late Freeze, by Danica Novgorodoff (Danica Novgorodoff)
The Preposterous Adventures of Ironhide Tom, by Joel Priddy (AdHouse)
Skyscrapers of the Midwest #3, by Joshua Cotter (AdHouse)
They Found the Car, by Gipi (Fantagraphics)

Best Continuing Series
All Star Superman, by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely (DC)
Captain America, by Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting (Marvel)
Daredevil, by Ed Brubaker, Michael Lark, and Stefano Gaudiano (Marvel)
Naoki Urasawa’s Monster, by Naoki Urasawa (Viz)
The Walking Dead, by Robert Kirkman and Charles Adlard (Image)
Young Avengers, by Allan Heinberg, Jim Cheung, and various inkers (Marvel)

Best Limited Series
Batman: Year 100, by Paul Pope (DC)
The Looking Glass Wars: Hatter M, by Frank Beddor, Liz Cavalier, and Ben Templesmith (Desperado/Image)
The Other Side, by Jason Aaron and Cameron Stewart (Vertigo/DC)
Scarlet Traces: The Great Game, by Ian Edginton and D’Israeli (Dark Horse)
Sock Monkey: The Inches Incident, by Tony Millionaire (Dark Horse)

Best New Series
Criminal, by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Marvel Icon)
East Coast Rising, by Becky Cloonan (Tokyopop)
Gumby, by Bob Burden and Rick Geary (Wildcard)
Jack of Fables, by Bill Willingham, Matthew Sturges, Tony Akins, and Andrew Pepoy (Vertigo/DC)
The Lone Ranger, by Brett Matthews and Sergio Cariello (Dynamite)

Best Publication for a Younger Audience
Chickenhare, by Chris Grine (Dark Horse)
Drawing Comics Is Easy (Except When It’s Hard), by Alexa Kitchen (Denis Kitchen Publishing)
Gumby, by Bob Burden and Rick Geary (Wildcard)
Moomin, by Tove Jansson (Drawn & Quarterly)
To Dance: A Ballerina’s Graphic Novel, by Sienna Cherson and Mark Siegel (Simon & Schuster)

Best Humor Publication
Flaming Carrot Comics, by Bob Burden (Desperado/Image)
Onionhead Monster Attacks, by Paul Friedrich (Hellcar)
Schizo #4, by Ivan Brunetti (Fantagraphics)
Tales Designed to Thrizzle, by Michael Kupperman (Fantagraphics)
Truth Serum, by Jon Adams (City Cyclops)

Best Anthology
Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall, by Bill Willingham and various (Vertigo/DC)
Hotwire Comix and Capers #1, edited by Glenn Head (Fantagraphics)
Japan as Viewed by 17 Creators, edited by Frédéric Boilet (Fanfare/Ponent Mon)
Kramers Ergot 6, edited by Sammy Harkham (Buenaventura Press)
Project: Romantic, edited by Chris Pitzer (AdHouse)

Best Digital Comic
Bee, in “Motel Art Improvement Service,” by Jason Little, http://beecomix.com
Girl Genius, by Phil Foglio, www.girlgeniusonline.com
Minus, by Ryan Armand, www.kiwisbybeat.com/minus1.html
Phables, by Brad Guigar, www.phables.com
Sam and Max, by Steve Purcell, http://telltalegames.com/community/c...andmax/issue-3
Shooting War, by Anthony Lappe and Dan Goldman, www.shootingwar.com

Best Reality-Based Work
Fun Home, by Alison Bechdel (Houghton Mifflin)
I Love Led Zeppelin, by Ellen Forney (Fantagraphics)
Mom’s Cancer, by Brian Fies (Abrams)
Project X Challengers: Cup Noodle, by Tadashi Katoh (Digital Manga)
Stagger Lee, by Derek McCulloch and Shepherd Hendrix (Image)

Best Graphic Album—New
American Born Chinese, by Gene Luen Yang (First Second)
Billy Hazelnuts, by Tony Millionaire (Fantagraphics)
Fun Home, by Alison Bechdel (Houghton Mifflin)
Ninja, by Brian Chippendale (Gingko Press)
Scrublands, by Joe Daly (Fantagraphics)
The Ticking, by Renée French (Top Shelf)

Best Graphic Album—Reprint
Absolute DC: The New Frontier, by Darwyn Cooke (DC)
Castle Waiting, by Linda Medley (Fantagraphics)
Mom’s Cancer, by Brian Fies (Abrams)
Shadowland, by Kim Deitch (Fantagraphics)
Truth Serum, by Jon Adams (City Cyclops)

Best Archival Collection/Project—Strips
The Complete Peanuts, 1959–1960, 1961–1962, by Charles Schulz (Fantagraphics)
Mary Perkins On Stage, by Leonard Starr (Classic Comics Press)
Moomin, by Tove Jansson (Drawn & Quarterly)
Popeye: I Yam What I Yam, by E. C. Segar (Fantagraphics)
Walt & Skeezix, vol. 2, by Frank King (Drawn & Quarterly)

Best Archival Collection/Project—Comic Books
Abandon the Old In Tokyo, by Yoshihiro Tatsumi (Drawn & Quarterly)
Absolute Sandman, vol. 1, by Neil Gaiman and various (Vertigo/DC)
Art Out of Time: Unknown Comics Visionaries, 1900–1969, by Dan Nadel (Abrams)
The Eternals, by Jack Kirby (Marvel)
Ode to Kirihito, by Osamu Tezuka (Vertical)

Best U.S. Edition of International Material
A.L.I.E.E.E.N., by Lewis Trondheim (First Second)
De:TALES, by Fábio Moon and Gabriel Bá (Dark Horse)
Hwy 115, by Matthias Lehmann (Fantagraphics)
The Left Bank Gang, by Jason (Fantagraphics)
Pizzeria Kamikaze, by Etgar Keret and Asaf Hanuka (Alternative)

Best U.S. Edition of International Material—Japan
After School Nightmare, by Setona Mizushiro (Go! Comi)
Antique Bakery, by Fumi Yoshinaga (Digital Manga)
Naoki Urasawa’s Monster, by Naoki Urasawa (Viz)
Old Boy, by Garon Tsuchiya and Nobuaki Minegishi (Dark Horse Manga)
Walking Man, by Jiro Taniguchi (Fanfare/Ponent Mon)

Best Writer
Ed Brubaker, Captain America, Daredevil (Marvel); Criminal (Marvel Icon)
Bob Burden, Gumby (Wildcard)
Ian Edginton, Scarlet Traces: The Great Game (Dark Horse)
Grant Morrison, All Star Superman, Batman, 52, Seven Soldiers (DC)
Bill Willingham, Fables, Jack of Fables, Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)

Best Writer/Artist
Allison Bechdel, Fun Home (Houghton Mifflin)
Renée French, The Ticking (Top Shelf)
Gilbert Hernandez, Love and Rockets, New Tales of Old Palomar (Fantagraphics); Sloth (Vertigo/DC)
Paul Pope, Batman: Year 100 (DC)
Joann Sfar, Klezmer, Vampire Loves (First Second)

Best Writer/Artist—Humor
Ivan Brunetti, Schizo (Fantagraphics)
Lilli Carré, Tales of Woodsman Pete (Top Shelf)
Michael Kupperman, Tales Designed to Thrizzle (Fantagraphics)
Tony Millionaire, Billy Hazelnuts (Fantagraphics); Sock Monkey: The Inches Incident (Dark Horse)
Lewis Trondheim, A.L.I.E.E.E.N. (First Second); Mr. I (NBM)

Best Penciller/Inker or Penciller/Inker Team
Mark Buckingham/Steve Leialoha, Fables (Vertigo/DC)
Tony Harris/Tom Feister, Ex Machina (WildStorm/DC)
Niko Henrichon, Pride of Baghdad (Vertigo/DC)
Michael Lark/Stefano Gaudiano, Daredevil (Marvel)
Sonny Liew, Wonderland (SLG)
Steven McNiven/Dexter Vines, Civil War (Marvel)

Best Painter/Multimedia Artist (interior art)
Nicolas De Crecy, Glacial Period (NBM)
Melinda Gebbie, Lost Girls (Top Shelf)
Ben Templesmith, Fell (Image); The Looking Glass Wars: Hatter M (Desperado/Image); Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse (IDW)
Jill Thompson, “A Dog and His Boy” in The Dark Horse Book of Monsters; “Love Triangle” in Sexy Chix (Dark Horse); “Fair Division,” in Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)
Brett Weldele, Southland Tales: Prequel Saga (Graphitti); Silent Ghost (Markosia)

Best Cover Artist
John Cassaday, Astonishing X-Men (Marvel); The Escapists (Dark Horse); The Lone Ranger (Dynamite)
Tony Harris, Conan (Dark Horse); Ex Machina (WildStorm/DC)
James Jean, Fables, Jack of Fables, Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)
Dave Johnson, 100 Bullets (Vertigo/DC); Zombie Tales, Cthulu Tales, Black Plague (Boom!)
J. G. Jones, 52 (DC)

Best Coloring
Kristian Donaldson, Supermarket (IDW)
Hubert, The Left Bank Gang (Fantagraphics)
Lark Pien, American Born Chinese (First Second)
Dave Stewart, BPRD, Conan, The Escapists, Hellboy (Dark Horse); Action Comics, Batman/The Spirit, Superman (DC)
Chris Ware, Acme Novelty Library #17 (ACME Novelty)

Best Lettering
Ivan Brunetti, Schizo (Fantagraphics)
Todd Klein, Fables, Jack of Fables, Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall; Pride of Baghdad, Testament (Vertigo/DC); Fantastic Four: 1602, Eternals (Marvel); Lost Girls (Top Shelf)
Clem Robins, BPRD, The Dark Horse Book of Monsters, Hellboy (Dark Horse); Loveless, 100 Bullets, Y: The Last Man (Vertigo/DC)
Richard Sala, The Grave Robber’s Daughter, Delphine (Fantagraphics)
Chris Ware, Acme Novelty Library #17 (ACME Novelty)

Special Recognition
Ross Campbell, Abandoned (Tokyopop); Wet Moon 2 (Oni)
Svetlana Chmakova, Dramacon (Tokyopop)
Hope Larson, Gray Horses (Oni)
Dash Shaw, The Mother’s Mouth (Alternative)
Kasimir Strzepek, Mourning Star (Bodega)

Best Comics-Related Periodical/Journalism
Alter Ego, edited by Roy Thomas (TwoMorrows)
Comic Art 8, edited by Todd Hignite (Buenaventura Press)
The Comics Journal, edited by Gary Groth, Dirk Deppey, Michael Dean, and Kristy Valenti (Fantagraphics)
The Comics Reporter, produced by Tom Spurgeon and Jordan Raphael (www.Comicsreporter.com)
#161;Journalista!, produced by Dirk Deppey (Fantagraphics, www.tcj.com/journalista/)

Best Comics-Related Book
The Art of Brian Bolland, edited by Joe Pruett (Desperado/Image)
Cartoon America: Comic Art in the Library of Congress, edited by Harry Katz (Abrams)
Dear John: The Alex Toth Doodle Book, by John Hitchcock (Octopus Press)
In the Studio: Visits with Contemporary Cartoonists, by Todd Hignite (Yale University Press)
Wally’s World, by Steve Sarger and J. David Spurlock (Vanguard)

Best Publication Design
Absolute DC: The New Frontier, designed by Darwyn Cooke (DC)
Castle Waiting graphic novel, designed by Adam Grano (Fantagraphics)
Lost Girls, designed by Matt Kindt and Brett Warnock (Top Shelf)
Popeye: I Yam What I Yam, designed by Jacob Covey (Fantagraphics)
The Ticking, designed by Jordan Crane (Top Shelf)


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jurica
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 11:25:07  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
taj je izbor, demokratizacijom trzista i povecanjem broja autorskih naslova, izgubio svaki smisao.

nesto kao Oscar, koji se trudi nagradjivati najkomercijalnije filmova, a opet ocuvati ugled toboze "umjetnickih" kriterija.

koja je poanta ovakvog miksa gdje rame uz rame nastupaju autori s ambicijom izrazavanja i manufakturni proizvodjaci?

te stvari treba jasno odvojiti.

i Philip Roth i Stephen King su se, hvala bogu jer zasluzuju, nabrali svakakvih nagrada. ali nikad istih! nikako ne mogu njih dvojica zadovoljavati iste kriterije, a izbor kriterije mora imati.

molim lijepo, nemam nista protiv da se, primjerice, Chris Ware i Frank Miller obojica nadobivaju svakakvih nagrada, ali u istom izboru ta dva autora nemaju sto traziti.

ukratko: Eisner je sranje i nema ga smisla ozbiljno shvacati.

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Djole
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 11:37:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Osim generalnog stava da su jadni dani došli kada je Willingham (ponovo!) nominovan za najboljeg scenaristu, a Templesmith za najbolje crtaca, da vidimo za šta sam još cuo ovde...

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Best Continuing Series
All Star Superman, by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely (DC)
Captain America, by Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting (Marvel)
Daredevil, by Ed Brubaker, Michael Lark, and Stefano Gaudiano (Marvel)
Naoki Urasawa’s Monster, by Naoki Urasawa (Viz)
The Walking Dead, by Robert Kirkman and Charles Adlard (Image)
Young Avengers, by Allan Heinberg, Jim Cheung, and various inkers (Marvel)


All star Superman je korektna, ali nedovoljno korektan za ritam koji izlazi. Cap je - takode korektan, ali ništa više od toga. Walking dead sve olji i bolji, taman kad pomisliš da popušta, dobiješ pesnicu u stomak (ili kašiku u oko). Young avengers kao continuing series?


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Best Limited Series
Batman: Year 100, by Paul Pope (DC)
The Looking Glass Wars: Hatter M, by Frank Beddor, Liz Cavalier, and Ben Templesmith (Desperado/Image)
The Other Side, by Jason Aaron and Cameron Stewart (Vertigo/DC)
Scarlet Traces: The Great Game, by Ian Edginton and D’Israeli (Dark Horse)
Sock Monkey: The Inches Incident, by Tony Millionaire (Dark Horse)


Year 100 je veoma, veoma dobar, ali ne za svakoga.


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Best New Series
Criminal, by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (Marvel Icon)
East Coast Rising, by Becky Cloonan (Tokyopop)
Gumby, by Bob Burden and Rick Geary (Wildcard)
Jack of Fables, by Bill Willingham, Matthew Sturges, Tony Akins, and Andrew Pepoy (Vertigo/DC)
The Lone Ranger, by Brett Matthews and Sergio Cariello (Dynamite)


Strašno, ali ništa od ovoga nisam citao. A gde je Casanova,a?


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Best Anthology
Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall, by Bill Willingham and various (Vertigo/DC)
Hotwire Comix and Capers #1, edited by Glenn Head (Fantagraphics)
Japan as Viewed by 17 Creators, edited by Frédéric Boilet (Fanfare/Ponent Mon)
Kramers Ergot 6, edited by Sammy Harkham (Buenaventura Press)
Project: Romantic, edited by Chris Pitzer (AdHouse)


Antologije i dalje postoje?


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Best Reality-Based Work
Fun Home, by Alison Bechdel (Houghton Mifflin)
I Love Led Zeppelin, by Ellen Forney (Fantagraphics)
Mom’s Cancer, by Brian Fies (Abrams)
Project X Challengers: Cup Noodle, by Tadashi Katoh (Digital Manga)
Stagger Lee, by Derek McCulloch and Shepherd Hendrix (Image)


Verovatno meni najinteresantnija kategorija, što je i razlog što vecinu stvari odavde nisam citao - cekam papir.



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Best Writer
Ed Brubaker, Captain America, Daredevil (Marvel); Criminal (Marvel Icon)
Bob Burden, Gumby (Wildcard)
Ian Edginton, Scarlet Traces: The Great Game (Dark Horse)
Grant Morrison, All Star Superman, Batman, 52, Seven Soldiers (DC)
Bill Willingham, Fables, Jack of Fables, Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)


I eto, jedan odlican zanatlija (Brubaker), jedan osrednji zanatlija (Willingham), i jedan odlican pisac koji se pretvorio u zanatliju (Morrison). Plus dvojica cije radove nisam citao. Milina za Eisnera.



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Best Penciller/Inker or Penciller/Inker Team
Mark Buckingham/Steve Leialoha, Fables (Vertigo/DC)
Tony Harris/Tom Feister, Ex Machina (WildStorm/DC)
Niko Henrichon, Pride of Baghdad (Vertigo/DC)
Michael Lark/Stefano Gaudiano, Daredevil (Marvel)
Sonny Liew, Wonderland (SLG)
Steven McNiven/Dexter Vines, Civil War (Marvel)


Ako ima pravde, ovo ide Henrichonu.



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Best Cover Artist
John Cassaday, Astonishing X-Men (Marvel); The Escapists (Dark Horse); The Lone Ranger (Dynamite)
Tony Harris, Conan (Dark Horse); Ex Machina (WildStorm/DC)
James Jean, Fables, Jack of Fables, Fables: 1001 Nights of Snowfall (Vertigo/DC)
Dave Johnson, 100 Bullets (Vertigo/DC); Zombie Tales, Cthulu Tales, Black Plague (Boom!)
J. G. Jones, 52 (DC)


I opet, ako ima pravde - Jones. Ne zato što je nešto posebno bolji od ostalih, ali jedan cover nedeljno - ostali to mogu da sanjaju.

Dakle, ništa iznenadujuce (osim što nema Gaimanovih Eternalsa - koji su opet samo korektna obrada Kirbyja).

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Witchblade
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 13:49:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Witchblade a Private Message
>Year 100 je veoma, veoma dobar, ali ne za svakoga.

Ne znam, ja to ne mogu probaviti, ni uz najbolju volju. Pope meni nikako nije crtac za Batmana... ah, mozda sam previse star(omodan).

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Best Single Issue (or One-Shot)
Batman/The Spirit #1: “Crime Convention,” by Jeph Loeb and Darwyn Cooke (DC)
A Late Freeze, by Danica Novgorodoff (Danica Novgorodoff)
The Preposterous Adventures of Ironhide Tom, by Joel Priddy (AdHouse)
Skyscrapers of the Midwest #3, by Joshua Cotter (AdHouse)
They Found the Car, by Gipi (Fantagraphics)

Hoce li netko napokon zabraniti Jephu Loebu da prilazi stripovima na manje od 100 metara?

"It is not even clear why we need a theory of gravity -- there is not a single mention in the Bible, and the patriotic founding fathers never referred to it. If gravity wasn't important in Moses' day or Jefferson's day, it is ridiculous to take it seriously at this time." -- Ellery Schempp
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Djole
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 15:25:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Ne, ocito. Covek je bre scenaristicki superstar, može da radi šta mu se hoce.

Bljak.

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Witchblade
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Posted - 20/04/2007 : 16:49:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Witchblade a Private Message
Dekara se kune u Darwyna Cookea, a on se mijesa s ovakvom boranijom

"It is not even clear why we need a theory of gravity -- there is not a single mention in the Bible, and the patriotic founding fathers never referred to it. If gravity wasn't important in Moses' day or Jefferson's day, it is ridiculous to take it seriously at this time." -- Ellery Schempp
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Constantine33
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Posted - 21/04/2007 : 04:58:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Constantine33's Homepage  Send Constantine33 a Private Message
pa dobro, imao je loeb s batmanom svojih svijetlih trenutaka...

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Posted - 21/04/2007 : 11:03:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
Od stare slave se ne živi.

Odnosno, živi se, i to veoma dobro, ocito - but you know what I mean.

A Cooke - dok nisam citao Spirita, recimo ovde spomenuti New Frontier je ful okej. Malo izvikan, ali uspeo je cak da i od jednog bezveznog Hala Jordana napravi interesantan lik - što nije mala stvar.

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klonko i ostali
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@ Jurica

Donekle se slazem da su pomjesali kruske i jabuke, ali zasto Miller i Ware ne bi bili u istoj konkurenciji?
Obojica su kompletni autori, obojica su inovatori.
Zato sto Miller radi superjunake? Pa i Ware je imao supermana .
Malo mi to zvuci elitisticki, kao James Joyce je umjetnost a Philip K. Dick nije.
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jurica
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Posted - 21/04/2007 : 16:28:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
nope. nije elitisticki.

zato postoje razliciti izbori s razlicitim kriterijima.

Millera sam namjerno izabrao jer ga volim citati (bas zato da netko ne pomisli kako sad zelim biti nekakav elitist).

naprosto, njih dvojica rade stripove s generalno razlicitim ambicijama i za razlicita trzista.

mislim, mozes li zamisliti da ista izdavacka kuca objavi njihove albume jedan do drugog. vec iz toga se moze nesto zakljuciti: nema to veze s tim tko je bolji, zabavniji, produhovljeniji ili inovativniji. ali njih su dvojica kruske i jabuke.

to mu dodje kao da mi netko dodje s pitanjem je li bolji film "Bilo jednom u Kini" T. Harka ili "Avantura" M. Atonionija.

ja to ne mogu usporedjivati. iako mogu ustvrditi da su mi oba filma sjajna.

sam si rekao: kruske i jabuke.

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quote:
Originally posted by jurica
mislim, mozes li zamisliti da ista izdavacka kuca objavi njihove albume jedan do drugog.


ja mogu.
ako moze millera i moebiusa, zasto ne millera i warea? u cemu je konkretno problem?
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Originally posted by jurica
to mu dodje kao da mi netko dodje s pitanjem je li bolji film "Bilo jednom u Kini" T. Harka ili "Avantura" M. Atonionija.

ja to ne mogu usporedjivati. iako mogu ustvrditi da su mi oba filma sjajna.


ja mogu. kao sto mogu mirne duse rec da je barbarella bolja od ghost worlda. ili fugazi od minee. ili koji god drugi primjer zelis.
a mozes i ti. probaj.
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klonko i ostali
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Posted - 21/04/2007 : 23:51:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send klonko i ostali a Private Message
kruske i jabuke su mi kad je u istoj kategoriji Pope nasuprot pet sljakera (autor sinopsisa, scenarist, olovkar, tuser, kolorist... tko je tu autor? shefovi Marvela mozda?)

Na Warea su puno utjecali stari novinski stripovi ala Krazy Kat i Popaj, ali mi se cini da je DK2 blizi tom duhu od "Corrigana". Podjela na mainstream i alternativu je umjetna podjela, mislim.

S druge strane, draza mi je Kuca straha od Osmjeha Majakovskog, pa sad neznam
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jurica
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Posted - 22/04/2007 : 18:33:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
ok. nadglasan sam.

recimo da su moji primjeri bili pogresni. ali jasno je na sto sam mislio i ocigledno se slazemo da je tako.

>ako moze millera i moebiusa,
>zasto ne millera i warea?

pa ne znam.
ne zelim TVRDITI da Ware NIKAD nece nacrtati epizodu Silver Surfera, ali za sad mi se to cini nekako nevjerojatno.
mozda grijesim.

>kruske i jabuke su mi kad je u
>istoj kategoriji Pope nasuprot
>pet sljakera

e to je primjer koji sam ja NAMJERAVAO dati, ali sam se bojao da ce me netko optuziti za elitizam i podcjenjivanje Marvela.

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