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idado
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William_Wallace
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Posted - 16/06/2007 : 22:51:50
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Sad sam procitao u ovom clanku da je poginulo 400 ljudi kad su spalili bioskop! Da li je moguce da ima takvih ludaka!
When I raise my flashing sword... and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance up on mine enemies. And I will repay those who haze me. O Lord, raise me to Thy right hand... and count me among Thy saints. |
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BO
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idado
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Markos
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 11:09:18
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Persepolis je sjajan strip. Nikakva propaganda, dapace. Pogled iznutra buntovne mlade zene na islamsku revoluciju u Iranu. Vrlo dojmljivo.
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etmgosa
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jurica
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 14:38:40
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Nikakva propaganda, dapace.
ma ima malo... ima...
mislim, posto se radi o privatnoj povijesti autorica nikako ne skriva svoje politicke stavove i sl. takav strip se drugacije vjerojatno i ne moze raditi, ali ipak mi se cini da se ne moze reci da nema NISTA propagande u njemu.
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Markos
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idado
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 21:33:38
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Odgovor koji bih ponudio bi nas odveo na krivi kolosjek, došlo bi do besmislene rasprave, kao i mnogo puta dosad. A što ce nam to? Svako neka zakljuci kako mu drago. |
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jurica
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 09:56:48
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Propaganda CEGA?
politickih stavova autorice.
autorica je ocigledno prozapadno i progresivno orijentirana, kao suprotnost konzervativnijim slojevima iranskog drustva koje prikazuje primitivnim i neukim zlocincima (uopce ne zelim ulaziti u to prikazuje li ih takvima s pravom ili ne - svatko tko me imalo poznaje zna sto privatno mislim).
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 10:00:31
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Propaganda politickih stavova autorice? Pa ne bih to nazvao propagandom. Zena jednostavno ima svoje stavove o zivotu i svijetu oko sebe, napravila je autobiografski strip, naravno da ce ih u njemu iznijeti. Ne znam, nisam to dozivio kao propagandu.
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jurica
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 10:07:19
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ma, gle, znam o cemu pricas i slazem se. to je iskreno napravljen strip u kojem autorica nista ne skriva. nisam ja ni reagirao na samu temu je li strip propaganda.
nije. strip je tipican primjer autobiografskog stripa koji je preplavio cijeli svijet (kao i ostale medije gdje je faction na ogromnoj cijeni: autobiografska knjizevnost, intimisticke ispovijedi u pop alternativi, dokumentarni film...)
"Nikakva propaganda, dapace" - s tim se pak ne slazem. zasto "dapace"? nije bas da ona objektivno i sa strane sagleda dogadjanja okom nezainteresiranog promatraca.
to sam htio reci. osobno mi se ucinilo da u stripu ima dosta uvjeravanja citatelja da je autorica u pravu i da je njezina politicka opcija ispravna. pa pogledaj samo ovu stranicu koju je netko ovdje stavio - ona prakticki demonizira i obezljudjuje svoje politicke protivnike (opet napominjem - stavimo sad na stranu slazemo li se ili ne s njom).
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Markos
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 10:55:15
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Pa cuj, svi smo mi uvjereni kako smo u pravu, a ovi drugi u krivu. Onda je svako autobiografsko djelo propaganda?
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jurica
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 11:07:55
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Pa cuj, svi smo mi uvjereni kako smo u pravu, a ovi drugi u krivu. Onda je svako autobiografsko djelo propaganda?
ha, ha, sad cu kao zadnja pizda citirati vlastiti post odozgo 
quote: Originally posted by jurica
mislim, posto se radi o privatnoj povijesti autorica nikako ne skriva svoje politicke stavove i sl. takav strip se drugacije vjerojatno i ne moze raditi, ali ipak mi se cini da se ne moze reci da nema NISTA propagande u njemu.
ali ajmo prestati raspravljati o tome jer se manje vise slazemo, samo se vrtimo oko detalja... (jos jedan pizdunski postupak: predloziti drugima da prestanu raspravljati, ali sam uporno pisati )
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Witchblade
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 11:08:41
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Pa cuj, svi smo mi uvjereni kako smo u pravu, a ovi drugi u krivu. Onda je svako autobiografsko djelo propaganda?
Kicking Squeeling Gucci Little Piggy
Kljuc je jednostavan: ako se ne slazes s autorom, onda je to propaganda. 
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GGG
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Posted - 18/06/2007 : 11:20:42
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Persepolis jest politicki angažiran i kritican, ali sigurno nije propaganda. Osim toga, strip vec dugo vremena baš i nije neki medij za širenje propagande. |
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 19/06/2007 : 20:37:37
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"Propaganda ili umjetnost: strip Persepolis - Iran"
pa ocigledno neko zeli da vidi propagandu u ovome...
"…Some people will say anything to be thought of as clever and interesting…" |
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idado
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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lwood
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STOSIC
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Posted - 19/06/2007 : 22:49:38
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Mislim da je idado mislio na ove Najkice koje se pojavljuju kao nekakav simbol "slobode" i "mogucnosti izbora"..."Budi drukciji" i slicna sranja,samo cudno je samo kako simbol jedne ogromne firme koja i sama tlaci svoje "radnike"(npr. ona djeca iz Indije ili di vec što im za cent rucno šivaju nogometne lopte) može bit neki simbol osvještenja i slobode...
Medutim neki ocito ne citaju ni uvodni post,a da pokušaju shvatit kontekst...to je vec viša matematika... |
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 20/06/2007 : 06:14:38
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Ja sam procitao prvu knjigu, strip nije loš. Ipak se ovdje radi o subjektivnom stavu autorice, koja opisuje stanje u Iranu nakon islamske revolucije. Neko se nece slagati sa njenim stavovima, neko hoce. Ne vjerujem da je neko od nas bio u Iranu, tako da niko od nas ne može reci da li autorica pretjeruje ili govori istinu. Ja kao musliman nisam uvrijeden ovim stripom, svaka osoba ima pravo na svoje mišljenje pa tako i autorica gore navedenog stripa.
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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idado
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lwood
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lwood
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Posted - 20/06/2007 : 12:19:50
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quote: Originally posted by SSTOSIC5@htnet-dsl
Mislim da je idado mislio na ove Najkice koje se pojavljuju kao nekakav simbol "slobode" i "mogucnosti izbora"..."Budi drukciji" i slicna sranja,samo cudno je samo kako simbol jedne ogromne firme koja i sama tlaci svoje "radnike"(npr. ona djeca iz Indije ili di vec što im za cent rucno šivaju nogometne lopte) može bit neki simbol osvještenja i slobode...
Medutim neki ocito ne citaju ni uvodni post,a da pokušaju shvatit kontekst...to je vec viša matematika...
mislin da su dica iz Indonezije tamo Nike ima tvornice.
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