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angeliczg
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:20:34
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Kako sam na forumu primjetio opcepoznatu opsjednustost glancerima i HC coverima - moje pitanje je dokle ide ta opsjednutost? Da li i stan održavate tako? Kakvi ste prema djevojci, ženi, roditeljima, frendovima ako ste pedantni sa stripovima? I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
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rocco21
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:25:30
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
Kako sam na forumu primjetio opcepoznatu opsjednustost glancerima i HC coverima - moje pitanje je dokle ide ta opsjednutost? Da li i stan održavate tako? Kakvi ste prema djevojci, ženi, roditeljima, frendovima ako ste pedantni sa stripovima? I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
Kako je to moguce? To samo u nekom paralelnom svijetu Nathan Nevera postoji mogucnost da se u istom vremenu na istom prostoru nadu dijete, strip i sok.
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Porter
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:44:23
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Stvarno ne kontam ove sto se loze na glancere,to su vjerovatno ljudi kojim se glanceri vise svidjaju od: prosaranih,prljavih,izguzvanih,opasnih po zdravlje,nesarmantnih stripova. Kada mi bi neko prosuo sok po nekom vrijednom stripu,prvo bi pokupio nekom krpom sok sa stola i uzeo casu i nasuo drugi sok. Pokusao bi ponovo nabaviti taj strip,takodje bi kupio jos soka. |
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Tex Willer
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:47:55
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quote: Originally posted by rocco21
quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
Kako sam na forumu primjetio opcepoznatu opsjednustost glancerima i HC coverima - moje pitanje je dokle ide ta opsjednutost? Da li i stan održavate tako? Kakvi ste prema djevojci, ženi, roditeljima, frendovima ako ste pedantni sa stripovima? I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
Kako je to moguce? To samo u nekom paralelnom svijetu Nathan Nevera postoji mogucnost da se u istom vremenu na istom prostoru nadu dijete, strip i sok.
        
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angeliczg
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:48:29
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i još sam nešto zaboravio pitati npr. covjek ima glancera i jedan primjerak koji cita i tako se gomilaju glanceri na stalaži - što se desi s njima? jel se oni ikad misle citati? cemu oni tocno služe? ulaganje u dionice strip burze pa ce se prodati kad nekom u familiji usfali bubreg? jednostavno me zanima jer mi je oduvijek bilo bitno samo procitati što više toga, a ako je strip super, onda i više puta pa neminovno dolazi do lamanja - dakle, najbolji stripovi po meni su oni najmanje uscuvani tj. najviše rabljeni za citanje |
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HC
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 12:56:16
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
ulaganje u dionice strip burze pa ce se prodati kad nekom u familiji usfali bubreg?
upravo tako nisam jedan od takvih, ali znam da ih ima koju su npr. kupili po 2 primjerka prvih brojeva MNoa i MM koje ce kasnije na aukcijama prodati za astronomske cifre |
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Porter
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 13:02:12
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Jos jedan mali primjer,recimo nekom nedostaje jedan strip. Taj strip vec trazi 72 godine i na kraju desi se cudo:njegova ljubavnica zeli da mu ponudi taj strip za rodjendan . Ima 2 primjerka tog stripa,jedan je totale prljav i lose ocuvan dok je 2.primjerak glancer. Ipak ne zna koji bi strip njen ljubavnik uzeo jer mu jos nije prodrla u psihicko stanje. Zamislite da ste vi taj sretni ljubavnik,koji bi strip uzeli za sebe? Sto se tice HC-a oni su skuplji ali su puno otporniji na ostecenja ako su otporniji na ostecenja onda mogu duze i trajati ako potraju duze,mozemo ih duze i imati. U slucaju da ih duze imamo onda nam se ne moze desiti da ih ne imamo itd. Kada bi svi stripovi kostali 1 kunu,koji bi se stripovi najvise prodavali? Izderani,prljavi ili Glanceri SC ili ozloglaseni HC?
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manhunter
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 13:13:17
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Jos jedan mali primjer,recimo nekom nedostaje jedan strip. Taj strip vec trazi 72 godine i na kraju desi se cudo:njegova ljubavnica zeli da mu ponudi taj strip za rodjendan . Ima 2 primjerka tog stripa,jedan je totale prljav i lose ocuvan dok je 2.primjerak glancer. Ipak ne zna koji bi strip njen ljubavnik uzeo jer mu jos nije prodrla u psihicko stanje. Zamislite da ste vi taj sretni ljubavnik,koji bi strip uzeli za sebe? Sto se tice HC-a oni su skuplji ali su puno otporniji na ostecenja ako su otporniji na ostecenja onda mogu duze i trajati ako potraju duze,mozemo ih duze i imati. U slucaju da ih duze imamo onda nam se ne moze desiti da ih ne imamo itd.
Hajde nemoj tu da okolišaš, nego ti nama lepo reci šta ti je to ljubavnica poklonila ra rodjendan! 
Dios no juega a los dados
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Porter
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manhunter
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 13:15:06
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quote: Originally posted by Porter Kada mi bi neko prosuo sok po nekom vrijednom stripu,prvo bi pokupio nekom krpom sok sa stola i uzeo casu i nasuo drugi sok. Pokusao bi ponovo nabaviti taj strip,takodje bi kupio jos soka.
Što samo potvrdjuje tvrdnje ljudi da su glanceri bezrazložno skupi. A kao da ljudi ne znaju da treba kupovati litre i litre soka,a to košta takodje.. 
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DusMan
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 13:22:46
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
Ubiti dete po kratkom postupku. I to ne samo za neki vredan ili dobro ocuvan strip. Za svaki strip vredi zrtvovati dete. Dete uvek mozes napraviti novo.
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BlekenDekara
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 13:34:24
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quote: Originally posted by DusMan
quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
Ubiti dete po kratkom postupku. I to ne samo za neki vredan ili dobro ocuvan strip. Za svaki strip vredi zrtvovati dete. Dete uvek mozes napraviti novo.
    
a setjam ga se ko da je juche bilo. mali, pogubljen, cvikerash, tih i povuchen pa pride slushao pilote i tako to. a vidi ga sad - dushmane - PONOSAN sam na tebe i ono u shta si izrastao!!!!!!!!  
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senad7
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 14:31:21
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Sto bi moralo dijete da dira stripove...moja kcerkica je 2 godine i zna gdje moji stripovi stoje ali nikad nije ni pipnula stripove.Sve stoji do odgoja. Inace volim glancere.Tako ih je lijepo vidjeti na policama.Takodje sam pazljiv prema zeni osim ako ona nezeli da sam malo grublji:)))
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kiky
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 14:37:41
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Glanceri i psihicko stanje vlasnika istih?
A, o tome ja sam vec naveliko pisao analize pune ironije i podsmijeha... odite malo na search.
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vope
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 14:47:58
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Stvarno ne kontam ove sto se loze na glancere,to su vjerovatno ljudi kojim se glanceri vise svidjaju od: prosaranih,prljavih,izguzvanih,opasnih po zdravlje,nesarmantnih stripova. Kada mi bi neko prosuo sok po nekom vrijednom stripu,prvo bi pokupio nekom krpom sok sa stola i uzeo casu i nasuo drugi sok. Pokusao bi ponovo nabaviti taj strip,takodje bi kupio jos soka.
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diderot2
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 15:20:49
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Jasno, kolekcionari so psihici. Sigurno. Znam to po sebi. Dva kompleta, jasno. Jedan za kolekciju, drugi za citanje. I referencije.
Onaj prvi sklonjen od svetla, po mogucnosti umotan u papir (ne novine) i sklonjen u ormaru. 
Stan mi je neuredan. Odmah izza vrata tako dve palete stripova. Koje još treba urediti. I miza je puna. To uredjivanje na drugom nivoju. Kattad nešto i izdvojim. Što ne trebam. Poklonim ili menjam. Glanz uvek zadržavam. A štoo se tice devojaka, e tu je problem. Nisam više baš mlad, a i nijedna me ne voli. Znate, nezgodno je to, vidiš ženske gace, pa imaš problema s srcem. Pa intenziva i ta ko dalje. Zato bih trebao više tako neku glanz devojku. Koja nije za upotrebu. Više za kolekciju. Za onu drugu, za upotrebu, moram još dobro razmisliti.
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 16:20:18
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quote: Originally posted by angeliczg
Kako sam na forumu primjetio opcepoznatu opsjednustost glancerima i HC coverima - moje pitanje je dokle ide ta opsjednutost? Da li i stan održavate tako? Kakvi ste prema djevojci, ženi, roditeljima, frendovima ako ste pedantni sa stripovima? I što se desi ako vam dijete uništi vrijedan ocuvan strip sokom?
Pažljiv sam prema ljudima do kojih mi je stalo, pedantan sam u vecini stvari koje radim. Volim lijepo ocuvane stripove (4+ ili bolje, ne patim od glancera), ne volim pokidane ili prljave (jer ja nisam takav). Od svih stripova imam po jedan i taj jedan ja citam (jednom ili više puta tijekom vremena). Citam tako da ga ne oštetim i da ostane lijepo ocuvan pa ga fino vratim u ormar...Ne dajem stripove prijateljima/rodbini na citanje jer znam da ih ne bi cuvali kao ja i tada bih imao loše ocuvan strip (a to ne volim). Možda to zvuci škrto, ali odlucio sam da su moji stripovi samo za mene (dok recimo filmove, igre i knjige posudujem). Djece za sada nemam, a kada budem imao, pazit cu da mi ne prospu sok po stripovima. Ako ipak uspiju, biti cu malo tužan, no ipak ne bih kažnjavao dijete jer su djeca ipak važnija od stripova... Smatram da je ovo potpuno normalan stav prema stripovima i da nisam previše otišao ni u jednu krajnost. A i ako netko misli da jesam, baš me briga. 
Mjenjam stripove, nudim druge stripove, knjige i sl. |
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mladjo
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 16:40:27
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Stvarno ne kontam ove sto se loze na glancere,to su vjerovatno ljudi kojim se glanceri vise svidjaju od: prosaranih,prljavih,izguzvanih,opasnih po zdravlje,nesarmantnih stripova. Kada mi bi neko prosuo sok po nekom vrijednom stripu,prvo bi pokupio nekom krpom sok sa stola i uzeo casu i nasuo drugi sok. Pokusao bi ponovo nabaviti taj strip,takodje bi kupio jos soka.
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DusMan
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 17:22:14
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quote: Originally posted by BlekenDekara
a setjam ga se ko da je juche bilo. mali, pogubljen, cvikerash, tih i povuchen pa pride slushao pilote i tako to. a vidi ga sad - dushmane - PONOSAN sam na tebe i ono u shta si izrastao!!!!!!!!  
Jebali te Piloti na celu sa Kinkijem Lesandricem i Raduletom iz Ateista. 
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hua
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 18:00:23
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Ova tema je odlicna. Ja skupljam iskljucivo glancere. Nekad se pitam šta li to nedostaje obicno ocuvanom stripu. Zašto mi smetaju?
I mislim da znam: Ne uživam dovoljno u samim stripovima, prica mi nije zanimljiva kao kad sam bio decak, pa sam verovatno morao uvesti novo merilo: strip mora biti fizicki lep.
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verter
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 20:50:40
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"a ako je strip super, onda i više puta pa neminovno dolazi do lamanja - dakle, najbolji stripovi po meni su oni najmanje uscuvani tj. najviše rabljeni za citanje"
ovo nije uopste pravilo. ja svoje stripove cuvam i mogu ih procitati i 10 puta, a da pri tome ostanu u stanju u kakvom su bili kada sam ih prvi put uzeo u ruku. drugim rijecima ne vidi se uopste razlika izmedju stripa koji nisam ni otvorio (ima nazalost i takvih) i onog kojeg sam otvorio 10 puta. i ovo vrijedi za veliki broj kolekcionara.
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angeliczg
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 20:59:11
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Pa ovo sve više vuce na TOY STORY 2 gdje se na prilicno jednostavan nacin MALOJ djeci objašnjava da nije bit držat igracke doma u kutiji vec se treba igrat s njima - jer su zato napravljene.
Strip u najlonu je pomalo bizarna stvar. Kao da mijenjaš prvobitnu namjenu stripa (citanje) u nešto pomalo prljavo (skrivanje/cuvanje/trgovanje). A ako je odlican, nisi li pomalo oštetio sve one koji ga u tvojoj blizini nece procitat cuvajuci ga negdje strpanog na polici? Ili cete za 30 godina hodat okolo po kvartu i pricat kako postoji super team-up Martina Mystera i Nathan Nevera ali jebiga... ne možete ga pokazati na svjetlo dana jer je glancer?
Ja sam toliko puta skupljao stripove u životu i onda ih gotovo razdijelio pa ispocetka - no bit je da uvijek idem u potragu za novima, shvatio sam da SVE extra Zagore znam NAPAMET pa mi ocito treba veci vremenski razmak da ih opet procitam. Sad ih samo ubrzano prolistam i sve znam. Noviji brojevi su mi daleko interesantniji makar znaju bit katastrofa.
OK, daleko od toga da svatko od nas nema stripove vrijedne citanja unedogled (nikad prežaljeni Storm, Asterix) ali polako otkrivam i scenu za "odrasle" pa se tu i tamo udubim u neko americko ili evropsko "cudo" koje me oduševi ("V for Vendetta" mi je bio šok ali i sreca jer sam imao tu privilegiju da ga citam (prije nego je film uopce sniman) kad je vec bio nacrtan - umro bih u dijelovima).
Poanta? HC opsesiju još i mogu prihvatiti (makar ju više doživljavam ako nosite strip sa sobom u nemoguce uvjete poput središnje Afrike pa ga treba zaštiti), ali taj hrcak-impuls pospremanja mi je ipak misterija. Razumijem da dijete ne smije dotaknut strip ali ce steci dojam da ga na kraju krajeva ni ne smije citat.
Osobno cu sacuvati neke stripove u citljivoj formi samo zato da probam vlastitu djecu zainteresirati za iste - ali ce me vjerojatno docekat na nož i rec da je njima SIN CITY zakon (meni osobno necitljiv tip stripa). |
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 21:33:45
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ja sam jedan od onih koji pati za glancerima, kako se to dogodilo? pa ispocetka sam imao stripove uglavnom u losijem stanju - takve sam ih dobio od prijatelja; a i oni stripovi koje sam sam kupio su, zbog neodgovornosti, gubili na vrijednosti onda mi je palo na pamet- ako dajem 15 kn za stripove, onda cu ih i cuvati, zasto bih davao novce za nesto sto mi propada? i tako, sto sam vise kupovao i cuvao "glancere" to su mi sve vise i vise smetali stari necuvani stripovi... poceo sam kupovati stare stripove u boljim stanjima i zamjenjivati ih s svojima i tako se razvila ova bolest kojoj nitko nezna lijeka... |
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srdjandj
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 21:50:19
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Navukao sam se i ja na glancere, ali i dalje dok ne nabavim strip koji nemam, dobar mi je bilo kakav primerak, a onda ako moze da se zameni glancerom....
Iz Vršca stiže glas, u vinu leži spas, ko vino ne pije, taj nek se ubije!!! |
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 21:58:50
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pazi angeliczg, ulazis u sfere blashemije, pitas stvari koje ne smiju biti upitane, HC, glanceri, itd. bolje stani na vrijeme jer mozes probuditi sile na forumu koje je bolje drzati uspavanim ;-)
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angeliczg
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Posted - 17/06/2007 : 22:44:58
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ma ajmo ovako od svih ovih Libellus 500 štampanih primjeraka pojedinih izdanja - koliko ih ima u diru? koliko primjeraka stripa kola okolo i stvara citatelje? ili je tih 500 namijenjeno za pospremit doma i eventualno cekat da se nade Robin Hood i sve ih poskenira i stavi na internet za džabe? mislim da je iz tih stripova napravljen kult koji je prenapuhan - gotovo svi dodu do Gradske knjižnice na Glavnom kolodvoru (Zagreb) i sve ih se može procitat, pa samo još treba neki fanatik koji ce ih ukrast od tamo jer ih nema na tržištu a on ima doma glancera kojeg ne želi otvarat, pa mu treba iz javne knjižnice za procitat jednom u 10 godina |
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