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diderot2
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Posted - 21/11/2007 : 19:08:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
da, kraj je
19 albuma
poslednja cetiri:
16.operation montecristo, vance
17.lor de maximilien, vance
18.la version irlandese, giraud
19.le dernier round, vance

šta da kažem
ovaj serijal me oduševljavao više od dva desetletjeca i skoro ne mogu verovat, da je kraj
oduševljen sam, mada sam tolikonavikao na vanceov crtež, da mi moebiusov cak pomalo smeta

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Posted - 21/11/2007 : 19:18:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
Stara vijest no...

Dobro da je privedeno kraju.

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diderot2
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Posted - 21/11/2007 : 20:17:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
pa šta mogu, kad ne citam stripove?

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diderot2
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Posted - 21/11/2007 : 21:30:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message

Originally posted by Renky

Stara vijest no...

Dobro da je privedeno kraju.



pa sad, opet

pošto su oba poslednja albuma izašla 13. novembra, to mi se ne cini baš kao stara prica

pogotovo. što jih držim u rukama

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culfis
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Posted - 21/11/2007 : 22:58:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send culfis a Private Message
Pametni ljudi ucine kraj i pametnim stvarima!

Jel to štos iz Minhena?
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axle munshine
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 00:02:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send axle munshine a Private Message
Pre neki dan sam citao na nekom sajtu neki naslov gde Wance kaze da XIII s ova dva albuma nije zavrsen serijal...neznam detalje,niti sam video ova dva albuma,samo prenosim ono sto sam video...

...BD, c'est la vie...
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 00:10:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message

Originally posted by diderot2


Originally posted by Renky

Stara vijest no...

Dobro da je privedeno kraju.



pa sad, opet

pošto su oba poslednja albuma izašla 13. novembra, to mi se ne cini baš kao stara prica

pogotovo. što jih držim u rukama




Da, tek su objavljeni ali vijest na netu datira s pocetka ove godine a pred lito je Stripoteka objavila razgovore sa Giraudom i Van Hamom povodom ovog izdanja. Ukratko taj album triba bi biti u paketu sa posljednjom epizodom XIII a radnja je u Irskoj i nije nužno vezana uz serijal ali autori su savjetovali "poznavanje tematike" prije citanja.

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diderot2
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 00:47:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
da, da

a ja sam video albume

i imam jih u ruci

a izašli pred sedmicu dana

a to kao neka stara prica, jelte?

na internetu piše svašta, a ja se nikad nisam pravio pametan sekundarnim vestima
žao mi je, što sam uopšte postao

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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 01:42:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message

Originally posted by diderot2

da, kraj je
19 albuma
poslednja cetiri:
16.operation montecristo, vance
17.lor de maximilien, vance
18.la version irlandese, giraud
19.le dernier round, vance

šta da kažem
ovaj serijal me oduševljavao više od dva desetletjeca i skoro ne mogu verovat, da je kraj

oduševljen sam, mada sam tolikonavikao na vanceov crtež, da mi moebiusov cak pomalo smeta




Oprosti, ali po cemu mi možemo zakljuciti da imaš albume u rukama? Skenovi oglednih tabli su i ranije bili dostupni a ima cak umanjena tabla i u Stripoteci pa je zakljucak da na osnovu toga možeš komentirati crtež.

Procitaj malo pažljivije... stara VIJEST... je ono na što tvoj post aludira, KRAJ JE a uz Vancea JEDAN ALBUM CRTA GIRAUD! Zar ne?

Nisan zna da si tako osjetljiv. Sorry

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diderot2
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 02:06:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
osjetljiv, jer navodiš da lažem

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Renky
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 02:25:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
Neeeee, ne navodim! Ocito se nismo razumili ali je mislim sad sve razjašnjeno.

Pozdrav!

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diderot2
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 02:25:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
ma dobro, razumem
nisi tako mislio
zbilja sam preosetljiv
al albume ipak imam

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SejoSexon
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 05:54:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
XIII je za mene definitivno najboljski evropski serijal.

But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood
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Corto_Maltese
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 12:17:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Corto_Maltese a Private Message
XIII je nesto najbolje iz evropskog strip stvaralastva !

Zalosno je kada covek ne zna sta hoce, a katastrofalno kada ne zna koliko moze!

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diderot2
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 15:43:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
Procitaj malo pažljivije... stara VIJEST... je ono na što tvoj post aludira, KRAJ JE a uz Vancea JEDAN ALBUM CRTA GIRAUD! Zar ne?

ocito treba razjasniti još nešto malo

16.operation montecristo, vance
17.lor de maximilien, vance
18.la version irlandese, giraud
19.le dernier round, vance

dakle, šta se vidi iz toga?
da je moebiusov album osamnaesti u celoj seriji
da je dakle on gostujoci artist
i da onda sledi kraj sa devetnajstim albumom

to govori onaj, koji zna

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jaki
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 19:23:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message

XIII t.18-Cover-© Dargaud-2007
© Dargaud-2007

Note 5 / 6
Notes planetebd
Scenario 5 / 6 Drawing 6 / 6
Genre
Action-Adventure A bédien disguised, planetebd

Series completed in France
19 album (s) (s) published in france
19 album (s) anticipated (s) in France
Volume 15: Unleash the dogs
Volume 16: Operation Montecristo
Volume 17: The Golden Maximilien
Volume 19: The last round
The Irish version
XIII, t.18

A discussion between Seamus O'Neil and Jason McFly can find out about the identity of XIII. A unique combination of sacred monsters, for a delicious penultimate opus: the revelation awaited for 25 years!

The story: In a summer hiking in the mountains of Colorado, near Boulder, two young friends take advantage of a break to make new revelations. The first, Seamus O'Neil in the second book, Jason Fly, his real identity. Born in Northern Ireland, Seamus is the son of an activist of the IRA. At his father's death in British jails, he was educated in the tradition of the struggle for independence and the hatred of the English. His uncle, who would become over the years the number 3 of the organization, however, encouraged to pursue a course normal student. Until his early exploits… First, it allows a professor sympathizer to the cause, to escape. He then between himself into hiding, becomes activist and involuntary lay bombs. The next step would be for him to be executed in cold blood the same teacher he had saved a few months earlier, for treason. He was then arrested and summarily tried, but he managed to escape and join the United States under the name of Brian Kelly. It is by accident, during a fall skiing, he met Jason Fly, the son of a Communist journalist, and ties of friendship with him. The two boys then known, but their interest profile subversive then close the FBI and the CIA, at the head of which stands a man named Frank Giordino…

What we think on the planet BD: Incredible! After more than 25 years of outstanding XIII finally knows with this album that it is really! Let us begin with the origins of this opus is quite unique. When Jean Van Hamme, announced that he would stop his cult series XIII, Yves Schlirf, editorial director at Dargaud, has sought at all costs a means to extend the sauce, if only one album. He found in the person of Jean Giraud, alias M#339;bius, one of the last holy alive the 9th art, the only one who can decide Van Hamme to write an album more. This penultimate opus is certainly a publicity stunt (mercantile), but with a special flavor. For not only provides all the light, precise, consistent and exciting, as to the identity of XIII, but it is anchored by a Van Hamme shaped, in the heart of the civil conflict in Ireland, spoke here in depth. As a bonus, the album is sumptuously designed by a Giraud who did not fly its fame. Although realistic, graphic style of the latter, halfway between that of Blueberry and the Incal, certainly has nothing to do with that of William Vance, cartoonist official in the series. But history flashback that is developed is a parenthesis listed chronologically upstream from the first album, the Day of dark sun. This means skillfully avoids any disruption visual and taste once again the talent of a M#339;bius decidedly always green. In addition, Vance returns in some kinds elevator to Giraud, who had himself left two Marshall Blueberry draw in the early 90. An essential component to understanding the final round which was released jointly…


Ja sam fetišist papira!

Edited by - jaki on 22/11/2007 19:25:15
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jaki
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 19:27:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message
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jaki
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 19:30:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message
XIII t.19-Cover-© Dargaud-2007
© Dargaud-2007

Note 3 / 6
Notes planetebd
Scenario 4 / 6 Drawing 3 / 6
Genre
Action-Adventure A bédien disguised, planetebd

Series completed in France
19 album (s) (s) published in france
19 album (s) anticipated (s) in France
Volume 15: Unleash the dogs
Volume 16: Operation Montecristo
Volume 17: The Golden Maximilien
Volume 18: The Irish version
The last round
XIII, t.19

Having learned his identity, XIII is preparing to return to the USA, where his enemies to drop to the paletot for a final bloody confrontation. Conclusion cumbersome but necessary in a series cult!

The story: The killer Irina Svetlanova executes a final contract: it shock in her bath Stanley Floyd, deputy director of the NSA, the eve of the latter's testimony against Frank Giordino, former head of the CIA, resigned by the president of USA. At the same time, Giordino "pactise" in bed with Felicity Brown, and in turn, offers its relations Mafia to "clean" XIII and his band against the treasury of Maximilian. Meanwhile, the media bounce for the murder of Floyd and the trial of Giordino incites the world of journalism to focus on two books: The Mystery XIII and Brian Kelly Story, addressing both of the assassination of President Sheridan and identity the mysterious XIII. Refugees in their Mexican villa, XIII, Jones, Carrington and their friends learn all this on television. Then they are preparing to return to the USA and to engage the authorities to put an end to several years of cavales. They do not know when their enemies appear to have given an appointment to take stormed their lair! By land, Irina and Jessica Martin, by voice Wednesday, Felicity Brown and the godfather of the local mafia, all baited by the treasure of Maximilian. Then followed a confrontation final explosive…

What we think on the planet BD: A reading of Volume 18, the readers are certainly welcome the setting in motion the long-awaited outcome of this series worship! In addition to participation in a massive guest cartoonist (Mônsieur Jean Giraud himself), the fabric of Irish version (Volume 18) revives indeed with the grandeur and power of the first episode found. Fans were able to wait for a final round in apotheosis, the duo legitimate sponsors. To complete the effect of the announcement (by the publisher) of the death of a female important, adding that of a male important (tadaaam). However, this conclusion is disappointing. Firstly, it was hard to believe that this is the same Jean Van Hamme who wrote the script, downstream of the Irish version. Indeed, the elements falling into place certainly in a logical manner, but without much imagination, with red, shortcuts and even passages autopromo too many for not irritating (a dozen times, the characters show wholesale both plans hinge albums in the series!). Add to this dialogue and situations that we really did not think (the appointment of explosive everyone in the same place at the same time)… course, the conclusion of a saga also huge, with so many characters ( more than 150!) suffers from a force of inertia almost impossible to correct. It was hoped that Van Hamme just surpasses himself to get the pill in a final masterful spin, and we stuck as he has so often proved he knew it. Yet sadly, the drawing of William Vance (real grandpa's 9th art!) S'effiloche a little more with each album. The faces of the characters, often in the forefront in static postures, poses on neglected backgrounds… Even the action scenes lacked fluidity (cf. confrontation on the roof in front of the Capitol, piecemeal). Certainly, given the expertise of the artist, it is still thrilling sequences and some muscular function smoothly. This last aspect has yet nothing to do with the magic albums of the golden age.

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jaki
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Posted - 22/11/2007 : 19:31:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message
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wiskey
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 10:07:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wiskey a Private Message
Koliko ja imam informacije, zadnja dva albuma su u (mislim) Francuskoj izašla u paketu (Renky ima pravo) i Makretprint ce ga tako objaviti (kako sada stvari stoje), a žele završiti cijeli serijal dogodine. Znaci, dogodine u ova doba ce se XIII moci procitati do kraja, jer je i radnja završena u 19. albumu.
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diderot2
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 11:06:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
u kakvom paketu?
vi možda imate informacije, a ja imam albume
to sta dva samostalna albuma, broj 18 i 19, koja su izašla istovremeno
13.novembra

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jaki
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 11:25:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message
Nisu u paketu nego su objavljeni isti dan?Pa zar smisao nije ista?

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diderot2
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 13:22:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message

baš ste se zainatili

ja hteo, da pricam o serijalu, a doživljam samo diskreditacije
ajme
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pošto su oba poslednja albuma izašla 13. novembra, to mi se ne cini baš kao stara prica



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dal vidite što sam napisao gore

da su oba albuma izašla na isti dan
i šta sad renky ima pravo a ja ne?

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diderot2
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 13:27:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
da kažem još nešto, što verovatno niste mogli procitat na netu

u poslednjoj albumu ponudjen je dar kupcima
poslednja, poslednja dakle, stranica kultnog serijala XIII na krasnom papiru, za uramljivanje
na formatu 42x30 cm
taj kupon treba kupac vatiti do 31,januara 2008

a to je vecini od vas takodje stara prica, zar ne?

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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 13:59:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wiskey a Private Message
Ne osporavam ja tebi ništa, samo sam potvrdio ono što znam, a to je rekao Renky. Ovo ostalo što si ti naveo nisam znao i zahvaljujem na informacijama. Nisam uopce posumnjao u njih. A ovo sa poklonom na kraju zadnjeg albuma mi se baš svida, iako sumnjam da cu to istrgnuti, osim ako nije samo dodano kao poster.
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diderot2
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Posted - 23/11/2007 : 19:02:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send diderot2 a Private Message
dodano kao mini katalogic
:)

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