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kreso_stanic
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/01/2008 : 19:15:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kreso_stanic a Private Message
Ovak, htio bih nauciti crtati kak spada, pa sam pokusao pronaci neku dobru knjigu o anatomiji za crtace. U knjiznici sam posudio knjigu Anatomija za umjetnike izvjesnog Jena Barcsaya al mi se cini dosta lose koncipirana, a i sadrzajno mi se ne cini baš kvalitetna pa ne želim raditi po njoj ako ima nešto bolje. Sigurno netko od vas zna neku dobru knjigu takvog tipa koju mi može preporuciti.

Pretražio sam malo i po katalogu kgz-a i pronašao ove dvije:
Szunyoghy Andras: Anatomija-škola crtanja i
Gaberc Rudolf: Plasticna anatomija covjeka
Jel netko zna da li neka od ove dvije možda valja?
Ili ima neka treca?

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mcn
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/01/2008 : 19:35:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
Nek' ti Frano zaprzzi Bammesa. I odrzzi predavanje.

mcn

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jurica
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Posted - 09/01/2008 : 20:47:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
ili jos bolje neka uploada negdje tako da svi mozemo baciti pogled (i ja hocu nauciti crtati!)
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bagi
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Posted - 09/01/2008 : 21:25:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send bagi a Yahoo! Message  Send bagi a Private Message
Evo jedan zanimljiv link,valjda ce vam pomoci,ima se stosta za nauciti...

www.stripovi-romani.tk Forum Indeks -> STRIP SKOLA I STRIP ABECEDA(Fun with a pencil by Andrew Loomis)

Wtf?

Edited by - bagi on 09/01/2008 21:30:36
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Zox
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Posted - 09/01/2008 : 22:55:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Zox's Homepage  Send Zox a Private Message
Barcsay je najbolji, ali nije bas za strip crtace, Loomis (kao sto napisa bagi) je isto jako dobar, probaj ovaj link:
http://www.placidchaos.com/Loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Figure%20Drawing%20For%20All%20It's%20Worth.pdf

https://www.facebook.com/TiitvojCrnjak
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kreso_stanic
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 14:39:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kreso_stanic a Private Message
hvala svima.
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zlatkob
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 14:50:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zlatkob a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kreso_stanic

hvala svima.



http://www.upps-sajt.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=7&sid=08734af61272b02b7ddad6305679a4ab
ovdje boravi gomila domacih crtaca i ilustratora. nadrilat ce te informacijama i savjetima

Kosovo i Metohija = Srbija
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cat claw
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 15:49:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cat claw a Private Message
Burne Hogarth: Dynamic Figure Drawing
Burne Hogarth: Dynamic Anatomy
Burne Hogarth: Drawing Dynamic Hand
http://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Figure-Drawing-Practical-Books/dp/0823015777
Jeste da je vise za one koji vec pomalo znaju da crtaju, ali ni za pocetnike nije lose... ustvari, jako je dobro, mnogo bolje od umetnickih manuala za akademce
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jurica
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 16:51:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by cat claw

mnogo bolje od umetnickih manuala za akademce


posto sam (neuspjesno) trazio knjigu koju preporuca Macan, naisao sam na:

"I've read in some forums some douchebags attacking Loomis for being boring, (usually the attack is perpetrated by horrible teenage comic book artists) it's quite easy to spot these idiots, because they prefer Hogarth's made-up bullshit anatomy, they find it more "dynamic" but if you really want to acquire solid drawing skills, Loomis is your man, for sure. You know my motto: Learn how to put something together the right way before you take it apart, the wrong way."
--- http://processjunkie.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-figure-drawing-books-ever.html

pa moram citirati :-)

Edited by - jurica on 10/01/2008 16:53:06
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cat claw
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 17:26:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cat claw a Private Message
Sto rece Dirty Harry: Misljenje je kao supak. Svako ga ima.
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jurica
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 17:39:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
e, cisto da se razumijemo - meni nisu znane ni jedne ni druge knjige, tako da to nije MOJE misljenje. samo sam naisao na to i prenio.
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dule_car
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 18:43:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dule_car a Private Message
ima u svim knjiznicama (u kojima sam bio) domace izdanje: autor- boško (nešto...) i naziva "anatomija (crtanja)" i sasvim je dobra.

ili kupi lutkicu:))

to e to

---there is no spoon--- (a viljuske?)

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cat claw
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 20:11:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cat claw a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jurica

e, cisto da se razumijemo - meni nisu znane ni jedne ni druge knjige, tako da to nije MOJE misljenje. samo sam naisao na to i prenio.



Harry je mislio na individuu koju si citirao. Tolko zlobe prema stripu nije bilo ni 1948e.
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kreso_stanic
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Croatia
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 23:09:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kreso_stanic a Private Message
>>>>>>posto sam (neuspjesno) trazio knjigu koju preporuca Macan

ja jesam.. http://www.amazon.com/Artists-Guide-Human-Anatomy/dp/0486436411


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tahuti
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 20:27:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send tahuti a Private Message
Mozda je tema malo kasno ali moze da se doda i http://the-structure-of-man.blogspot.com/ Riven Pheonix je postavio neke lekcije na http://www.youtube.com/user/RivenPhoenix pa moze da se pogleda.
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 21:35:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
I had something, ali sam zaturio link...

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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Raymond
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USA
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 22:44:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raymond a Private Message
andrew loomis je najbolji u mnogim stvarima crtanje....decenijama se nijesu mogle njegove knjige reprintati zbog neke legalne stvari [familija izgleda nije davala odobrenje???] ali evo sad od 2008 pocinju Loomis izdanja iz UK vrlo jeftino prva knjiga ide koja se inace ponekad prodaje po 200-300 dolara...a sad samo za $14 novo izdanje :)
http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Illustration-Andrew-Loomis/dp/1845769287/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203629606&sr=8-2

isto tako jedan amerikanac ce sam izdati HC Loomis izdanje valjda na jesen...

ne znam kako su uspjeli da uspiju da dobiju prava [[cito sam negsje da ti ne trebaju vise prava za reprint ako knjiga nije bila stampana za 50 godina ali mislim da se poslednje izdanje jedne od Loomis knjiga bilo 1980...mozda je ova gore zadnja bila printana 50-60tih godina. Ovo samo spekuliram iza citanja po forumima.

Njegovo crtanje, perspektiva, skecenje, bojanje itd do sada nijesam vidio da neko drugi bolje uci od njega.

Isto tako imas vrlo jeftine i ekstra dobre knjige od Jack Hamm:
3-4 njih
http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Head-Figure-Jack-Hamm/dp/0399507914/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203630033&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Animals-Jack-Hamm/dp/0399508023/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203630033&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Scenery-Landscapes-Jack-Hamm/dp/0399508066/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203630033&sr=1-3

za pare ove 3 Hamm knjige su pune bogatih crteza da se ui itd...

btw, za loomis knjige ovaj UK Titan books koji inace radi Modesty Blaise i James Bond reprinte kaze da ako ide dobro sa ovom Kreativnom Ilustracijom da ce izbaciti i druge 4 knjige od Loomisa. Mislim da je bolje od njih nego od ovog amerikanca mozda jer on to sam hoce da radi itd...ko zna hocel moci.

ali ipak mislim da je najbolje uciti prvo crtanje iz prirode i crtaj svoju familiju, sebe itd u raznim pozama i onda je puno lakse uciti iz knjiga...
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Raymond
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 22:51:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raymond a Private Message
evo vam sve knjige od Loomisa pdf [brzo dok ne skinu] formatu za dowlodiranje
http://www.placidchaos.com/AM/index.php?title=andrew_loomis&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
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Raymond
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 22:53:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raymond a Private Message
upps, vidim neko je postavio vec..sori...ali ipak treba downlodirati jer ranije se znalo da je postavljac morao skidati te stvari...mozda je sad drugacija stvar...pa se odobrava cim su knjige vec najavljene..
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Raspucin
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 23:35:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Raspucin's Homepage  Send Raspucin a Yahoo! Message  Send Raspucin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bagi

Evo jedan zanimljiv link,valjda ce vam pomoci,ima se stosta za nauciti...

www.stripovi-romani.tk Forum Indeks -> STRIP SKOLA I STRIP ABECEDA(Fun with a pencil by Andrew Loomis)




Aman, gde si covece? Jesi li živ?

JUUUUUGOOOSLAAAAVIIIIJOO NA NOGE
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Dule
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Croatia
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 23:48:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Dule's Homepage  Send Dule a Private Message
Pokušat cu biti konkretan:
Danas sam bio u Algortimu i vidio da se pojavila ponovo šminkerski napravljena, ali vrlo, vrlo dobra anatomija za umjetnike. Kako mi ne treba (jer izmedu ostalog imam neke stare i dobre), nisam zapamtio izdavaca etc...
No, knjiga stoji nešto manje od 300 kn, na naslovnici je foto crnca koji cuci, a knjiga se nalazi na izložbenoj polici/stupu nasuprot nizu polica s arhitekturom, designom, artom...
Ako misliš ozbiljno, trci, kupi, jer bolje trenutno na policama trgovina nema.
Drugo:
evo ti podatke meni najbolje anatomje, za koju znam da ima više izdanja:
"ANATOMIE FUR KUNSTLER"
autor David K.Rubins
izdavac:Otto Maier Verlag Ravensburg 1970.
Trece:
Ovu sam knjigu vec spominjao na ovom forumu; prije koju godinu. Ista se zapravo ne obraca umjetnickoj populaciji, ali je izuzetno dobra, posebno kao moguca nadgradnja malo prije spomenute knjige. Dakle:
"STRENTH TRAINING ANATOMY"
autor: Frederic Delavier
izdavac: za ne verovat,ali to je licenca licence koja je licenca...
no, navodi se i slijedece: Human Kinetics
107 Bradfored Road
Stanningley
Leeds LS28 &AT, United Kingdom
I ova knjiga povremeno se pojavljuje na policama Algoritma.

Napomena:
Pregledao sam/imao u rukama mnoge anatomije, ali ni jedna nije bolja od one koju navodim pod "Drugo"; a ta je uz put možda i najjeftinija.
Svakako se treba kloniti anatomija Burnea Hogartha. Posebno u pocetku. Eventualno bi se mogla uzeti njegova prva knjiga na tu temu: "Dynamic Figure Drawing".
Zašto to: otom-po tom, ako nekog zanima.


Dušan Gačić
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realist
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Croatia
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Posted - 22/02/2008 : 11:48:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send realist a Private Message
Najbolje je da crtaš kako god znaš, a ako te napadnu, reci da znaš sva pravila anatomije, ali da si u tako naprednoj fazi, da si sva ta pravila okrenuo naglavacke u svrhu eksperimentiranja :)

Diplomiraj brzo i bez puno truda:

http://studirajlukavo.blog.hr/
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kreso_stanic
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Posted - 22/02/2008 : 20:40:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send kreso_stanic a Private Message
hvala svima na odgovorima
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