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Toninho
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Croatia
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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 21:08:09
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quote: Originally posted by kico
Evo ih.Naivci digli topic o naivnima!
Kakav Blek? Kakav Mark? O cemu vi to govorite? Pa to je izlazilo ima 60 godina! Blek je katastrofalan,ali pomaže u nocima kada vam se ne spava. Izvrstan lijek za nesanicu... Preporucam!
O Marku sve najbolje.Ko je danas u stanju smislili 250(?) epizoda sa ogranicenim brojem stranica,njih 66,sa uvodom,zapletom i raspletom,a sve zacinjeno zdravom dozom humora. Vrlo malo njih. Marka volim,kupujem i kupovat cu. Samo zato što je jedan od onih junaka koji se smije. A takvi su sve rijedi i rijedi....
niko me nije toliko uvridija ka ti i to baš ti kico sramota mark je naivniji ne virujte ovom mufljoozu iz baške vode virujte meni |
kad ce mirko i Slavko od prvog broja |
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I like girlz
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
7821 Posts
Member since 18/01/2005 |
Posted - 21/01/2008 : 22:00:13
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quote: Originally posted by Toninho
quote: Originally posted by kico
Evo ih.Naivci digli topic o naivnima!
Kakav Blek? Kakav Mark? O cemu vi to govorite? Pa to je izlazilo ima 60 godina! Blek je katastrofalan,ali pomaže u nocima kada vam se ne spava. Izvrstan lijek za nesanicu... Preporucam!
O Marku sve najbolje.Ko je danas u stanju smislili 250(?) epizoda sa ogranicenim brojem stranica,njih 66,sa uvodom,zapletom i raspletom,a sve zacinjeno zdravom dozom humora. Vrlo malo njih. Marka volim,kupujem i kupovat cu. Samo zato što je jedan od onih junaka koji se smije. A takvi su sve rijedi i rijedi....
niko me nije toliko uvridija ka ti i to baš ti kico sramota mark je naivniji ne virujte ovom mufljoozu iz baške vode virujte meni
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kico
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Croatia
11381 Posts
Member since 22/12/2004 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 12:43:28
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quote: Originally posted by Toninho niko me nije toliko uvridija ka ti i to baš ti kico sramota mark je naivniji ne virujte ovom mufljoozu iz baške vode virujte meni
Zna san da ceš se ti javit!
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Porter
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Sweden
5874 Posts
Member since 01/08/2002 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 13:07:18
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Nije ni Mark ni Blek naivan,to su lafcine,borci,atlete,snagatori,intelektualci,borci za pravdu,zavodnici..... Stripovi su pravljeni za odredjeni uzrast. |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 13:08:42
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quote: Originally posted by Porter
Nije ni Mark ni Blek naivan,to su lafcine,borci,atlete,snagatori,intelektualci,borci za pravdu,zavodnici..... Stripovi su pravljeni za odredjeni uzrast...
... klinaca tamo polovinom prošlog stoljeca. |
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one." |
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kico
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Croatia
11381 Posts
Member since 22/12/2004 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 13:09:40
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by Porter
Nije ni Mark ni Blek naivan,to su lafcine,borci,atlete,snagatori,intelektualci,borci za pravdu,zavodnici..... Stripovi su pravljeni za odredjeni uzrast...
... klinaca tamo polovinom prošlog stoljeca.
Upravo tako! |
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lwood
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Colombia
47481 Posts
Member since 09/12/2005 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 14:34:26
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by Porter
Nije ni Mark ni Blek naivan,to su lafcine,borci,atlete,snagatori,intelektualci,borci za pravdu,zavodnici..... Stripovi su pravljeni za odredjeni uzrast...
... klinaca tamo polovinom prošlog stoljeca.
tako je .i to su odlicno odradili |
narocito na one koji su uspješni. |
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lsvemir
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Croatia
433 Posts
Member since 06/12/2001 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 14:41:54
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quote: Originally posted by Inferno
Pa, sami autori obaju junaka su svjesno odabrali takvu (zaglupljujucu i naivnu) narativnu tehniku prilagodenu nešto nižem uzrastu (do 12-13 godina). Stoga je kod ovih stripova besmisleno postavljati one iste kriterije koje postavljamo kod stripova "višeg" ranga. Naravno, nasladivanje je poželjno! Ovo je strip za djecu, i tocka. Sve su price na isit kalup: tajanstveni izdajnik, tajanstveni izdajnik, a poslije toga, tajanstveni izdajnik za kojeg Mark/Blek nikad ne posumnja, premda je sumnjivac ocit ko' ništa.
Blek mi je draži od Marka jer ne podnosim Blafa, Floka i Žaslosnu Sovu! A novije epizode Bleka (Njihalo strave... i sl.) su mu sasvim O.K. epizode.
U biti, ne citam te stripove (procitam sam tek 10-tak u životu), ali bih volio neki ozbilniji strip iz 17./18. stoljeca. Više bih preferirao 7-godišnji rat (u americkim kolonijama), na nacin da se 100 epizoda dogada u ratu, pa rat prode, pa zbivanja poslije rata (kao u Magico Vento: Little Big Horn). Na ovaj nacin postoji kontinuitet i bio bi veci opseg tema; za razliku od Marka/Bleka u Ratu za nezavisnost kojem nikad kraja.
- moram se javiti iako sam rekao da necu, ali javljam se samo zato da pohvalim 'Infernov' post, slažem se s njim ... ali samo u ovom: ali bih volio neki ozbilniji strip iz 17./18. stoljeca. Više bih preferirao 7-godišnji rat (u americkim kolonijama), na nacin da se 100 epizoda dogada u ratu, pa rat prode, pa zbivanja poslije rata (kao u Magico Vento: Little Big Horn). Na ovaj nacin postoji kontinuitet i bio bi veci opseg tema; za razliku od Marka/Bleka u Ratu za nezavisnost kojem nikad kraja. |
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Renky
stripovi.com suradnik
    

Croatia
11102 Posts
Member since 15/11/2002 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 15:17:36
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Sugerira li naslov/pitanje topica da Zagor, Tex, MrNo i svi ( bez iznimke ) stripovi nisu naivni? |
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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PAJDO
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Croatia
2237 Posts
Member since 10/04/2003 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 15:28:38
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
Sugerira li naslov/pitanje topica da Zagor, Tex, MrNo i svi ( bez iznimke ) stripovi nisu naivni?
Naravno da nisu, sve su to umjetnicka djela nulte kategorije |
In spite of my rage I´m still rat in a cage... |
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sonor
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Vatican City
3899 Posts
Member since 18/02/2006 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 17:52:23
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quote: Originally posted by PAJDO
quote: Originally posted by Renky
Sugerira li naslov/pitanje topica da Zagor, Tex, MrNo i svi ( bez iznimke ) stripovi nisu naivni?
Naravno da nisu, sve su to umjetnicka djela nulte kategorije
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There's a time to live and a time to die When it's time to meet the maker! There's a time to live but isn't it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying!
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Death
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Croatia
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srdjandj
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Serbia
22435 Posts
Member since 02/05/2005 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 19:45:51
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quote: Originally posted by Death
Blek je naivniji,slažem se.Mark se barem trudi biti ozbiljan.
Mark bar nešto i pojebe, a Blek retko, a ni tada!   |
Iz Vršca stiže glas, u vinu leži spas, ko vino ne pije, taj nek se ubije!!! |
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dsormaz1
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Member since 28/04/2002 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 19:58:32
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Volio sam citati i Bleka i Marka, ostat ce mi u sjecanju kao dragi stripovi iz djetinjstva, pa se ne zelim toliko nabacivati blatom po njima. |
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lsvemir
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Croatia
433 Posts
Member since 06/12/2001 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 20:18:32
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quote: Originally posted by dsormaz1
Volio sam citati i Bleka i Marka, ostat ce mi u sjecanju kao dragi stripovi iz djetinjstva, pa se ne zelim toliko nabacivati blatom po njima.
- Blek i Mark su za djecu, a Zagor i Tex za odrasle; evo pojašnjenja da nebudemo u zabludi  - nije mi samo jasno dok netko radi sprdnju iz Zagora i sl. neki popizde kao da im je brat Ciko  |
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Death
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Croatia
1208 Posts
Member since 10/01/2008 |
Posted - 22/01/2008 : 20:25:56
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quote: Originally posted by srdjandj
quote: Originally posted by Death
Blek je naivniji,slažem se.Mark se barem trudi biti ozbiljan.
Mark bar nešto i pojebe, a Blek retko, a ni tada!  
Upravo tako! |
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DeeCay
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Croatia
21661 Posts
Member since 24/09/2002 |
Posted - 23/01/2008 : 11:10:21
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quote: Originally posted by Death
quote: Originally posted by srdjandj
quote: Originally posted by Death
Blek je naivniji,slažem se.Mark se barem trudi biti ozbiljan.
Mark bar nešto i pojebe, a Blek retko, a ni tada!  
Upravo tako!
U stripu za djecu nema seksa momci... |
“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one." |
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dsormaz1
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Posted - 23/01/2008 : 19:43:41
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quote: Originally posted by lsvemir
quote: Originally posted by dsormaz1
Volio sam citati i Bleka i Marka, ostat ce mi u sjecanju kao dragi stripovi iz djetinjstva, pa se ne zelim toliko nabacivati blatom po njima.
- Blek i Mark su za djecu, a Zagor i Tex za odrasle; evo pojašnjenja da nebudemo u zabludi 
Ken je za odrasle. Tex donekle. |
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Porter
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Sweden
5874 Posts
Member since 01/08/2002 |
Posted - 23/01/2008 : 23:46:13
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Samo sto se ponekad odrasli zasite odraslog svijeta i pozele na trenutak da uplove u svijet maste,djecije iskrenosti i naivnosti. |
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hrvoje23
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Croatia
2175 Posts
Member since 23/09/2005 |
Posted - 25/01/2008 : 18:01:46
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Blek! Definitivno! Mark je po meni, ipak koliko toliko realniji, i bar mi nikad nije bio dosadan. Jednostavna pricica, na 66 str., malo akcije ,malo smijeha, ... |
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Death
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Croatia
1208 Posts
Member since 10/01/2008 |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 14:03:13
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by Death
quote: Originally posted by srdjandj
quote: Originally posted by Death
Blek je naivniji,slažem se.Mark se barem trudi biti ozbiljan.
Mark bar nešto i pojebe, a Blek retko, a ni tada!  
Upravo tako!
U stripu za djecu nema seksa momci...
Djecu bi trebalo uciti seksu.Seks ce im trebati u buducnosti. |
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guzadj
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China
255 Posts
Member since 15/03/2007 |
Posted - 26/01/2008 : 20:00:02
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Blek, Mark, Zagor, Tex, Mister No, Akira, Largho Winc, Badi Longvej, Spiderman, ....... kad se malo skontam svi su naivni!
Definitivno prestajem citati sve stripove osim Alana Forda koji je jedini realan
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Edited by - guzadj on 26/01/2008 20:01:25 |
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lwood
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Colombia
47481 Posts
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Posted - 26/01/2008 : 20:14:52
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quote: Originally posted by hrvoje23
Blek! Definitivno! Mark je po meni, ipak koliko toliko realniji, i bar mi nikad nije bio dosadan. Jednostavna pricica, na 66 str., malo akcije ,malo smijeha, ...
meni je Mark uvik bija bolji od Bleka |
narocito na one koji su uspješni. |
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Obi-wan
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/01/2008 : 20:17:59
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quote: Originally posted by guzadj
Blek, Mark, Zagor, Tex, Mister No, Akira, Largho Winc, Badi Longvej, Spiderman, ....... kad se malo skontam svi su naivni!
Definitivno prestajem citati sve stripove osim Alana Forda koji je jedini realan
          
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sed1
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Germany
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Posted - 26/01/2008 : 20:24:26
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
quote: Originally posted by guzadj
Blek, Mark, Zagor, Tex, Mister No, Akira, Largho Winc, Badi Longvej, Spiderman, ....... kad se malo skontam svi su naivni!
Definitivno prestajem citati sve stripove osim Alana Forda koji je jedini realan
          
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