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The Hammer of Hell
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 13:37:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit The Hammer of Hell's Homepage  Send The Hammer of Hell a Private Message
Onako od oka, prema rezultatima izbora za izdanje godine, cini mi se slijedece:

ako je glasalo 500-tinjak ljudi, a vodeca izdanja su dobila 100-tinjak +/- 50 glasova, uz opravdanu pretpostavku da stripove ne kupuju samo glasaci na stripovi.com, ispada da za vodecih 30-tak izdanja ima skoro sigurnih 200-tinjak kupaca. Premalo za kioske, ali za luksuzne HC-e u 500 komada koji se isplate na 300-tinjak prodanih, prilicno umirujuce.


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jurica
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Member since 19/02/2003

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 14:33:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
mene malo brine sto su moji privatni favoriti (osim Svagdanje borbe na odlicnom cetvrtom mjestu) prosli jako slabo...

ako se racuna po kljucu prodaja = broj glasova x 3 svi ce redom propasti.
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
3708 Posts

Member since 24/10/2007

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 14:35:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jurica

mene malo brine sto su moji privatni favoriti (osim Svagdanje borbe na odlicnom cetvrtom mjestu) prosli jako slabo...

ako se racuna po kljucu prodaja = broj glasova x 3 svi ce redom propasti.


Šteta...

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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Ferri
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Montenegro
1821 Posts

Member since 10/01/2004

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 16:51:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ferri a Private Message
Sve sto se kupuje ne mora da ti se svidja,barem ne toliko da bi glasao za njega

Edited by - Ferri on 01/02/2008 16:51:38
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jaki
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 16:55:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jaki a Private Message
ako ti se ne svida,zašto kupuješ?

Ja sam fetišist papira!
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
3708 Posts

Member since 24/10/2007

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 18:55:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jaki

ako ti se ne svida,zašto kupuješ?


E to sam upravo hteo i ja da pitam!

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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ken2
stripovi.com suradnik



Croatia
8169 Posts

Member since 30/07/2002

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 19:15:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ken2 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Man_of_Steel

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

ako ti se ne svida,zašto kupuješ?


E to sam upravo hteo i ja da pitam!


covjek je valjda mislio da ne može sve što kupiš biti u top 10 i ima pravo, evo ja pobjednicima, baladi i metabarunima nisam dao glasa, baladi jer je nisam kupio, imam stara izdanja, a metabaruni su mi odlicni, ali eto, bilo je 10 meni boljih

if you tolerate this, then your children will be next
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Obi-wan
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 20:52:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Obi-wan a Private Message
Nije mi najjasnije...
FB Metabaruni su drugoplasirani (znaci ljudi vole). Meni su bili prvi na listi, kupio sam ih.
Kako to, a Markos kaže da prodaja ne ide baš sjajno...

What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine.
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nika331
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 21:03:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit nika331's Homepage  Send nika331 a Private Message
ima ih u knjižnicama....ja ih namjeravam uskoro procitat
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Renky
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Croatia
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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 21:32:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Obi-wan

Nije mi najjasnije...
FB Metabaruni su drugoplasirani (znaci ljudi vole). Meni su bili prvi na listi, kupio sam ih.
Kako to, a Markos kaže da prodaja ne ide baš sjajno...



A i bodovanje nešto znaci. Ljudima se svida pa su ih bodovali sa maksimalnih 10 ili koji bod manje. Na drugu stranu bolje prodavani strip dobije po bod ili dva pa se stvori nesrazmjer. Niže pasiran a bolje prodavan.

"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter
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Markos
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Croatia
29384 Posts

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Posted - 01/02/2008 : 21:39:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Obi-wan

Nije mi najjasnije...
FB Metabaruni su drugoplasirani (znaci ljudi vole). Meni su bili prvi na listi, kupio sam ih.
Kako to, a Markos kaže da prodaja ne ide baš sjajno...


Nisam to rekao, prodaja Metabaruna je sasvim ok.

Trouble will find me
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
3708 Posts

Member since 24/10/2007

Posted - 01/02/2008 : 21:51:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by nika331

ima ih u knjižnicama....ja ih namjeravam uskoro procitat


Dobri planovi su osnova buducnosti!
Jedini maler je sto se uvek nesto dogodi, a da ja to nisam izplanirao...

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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Ferri
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Montenegro
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Member since 10/01/2004

Posted - 02/02/2008 : 12:05:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Ferri a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ken2

quote:
Originally posted by Man_of_Steel

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

ako ti se ne svida,zašto kupuješ?


E to sam upravo hteo i ja da pitam!


covjek je valjda mislio da ne može sve što kupiš biti u top 10 i ima pravo,



Da to je to. (Recimo kupujem stalno odredjene junake koje volim,pa medju njima ispadne dosta prica koje mi se ne svidjaju.)

Edited by - Ferri on 02/02/2008 12:08:33
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
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Posted - 02/02/2008 : 13:48:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ferri

quote:
Originally posted by ken2

quote:
Originally posted by Man_of_Steel

quote:
Originally posted by jaki

ako ti se ne svida,zašto kupuješ?


E to sam upravo hteo i ja da pitam!


covjek je valjda mislio da ne može sve što kupiš biti u top 10 i ima pravo,



Da to je to. (Recimo kupujem stalno odredjene junake koje volim,pa medju njima ispadne dosta prica koje mi se ne svidjaju.)


Isti slucaj i sa AF, ali to je nekako uvek jace od mene...

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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Obi-wan
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/02/2008 : 16:29:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Obi-wan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by Obi-wan

Nije mi najjasnije...
FB Metabaruni su drugoplasirani (znaci ljudi vole). Meni su bili prvi na listi, kupio sam ih.
Kako to, a Markos kaže da prodaja ne ide baš sjajno...


Nisam to rekao, prodaja Metabaruna je sasvim ok.


To mi je drago cuti.

What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine.
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
3708 Posts

Member since 24/10/2007

Posted - 02/02/2008 : 21:17:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Obi-wan

quote:
Originally posted by Markos

quote:
Originally posted by Obi-wan

Nije mi najjasnije...
FB Metabaruni su drugoplasirani (znaci ljudi vole). Meni su bili prvi na listi, kupio sam ih.
Kako to, a Markos kaže da prodaja ne ide baš sjajno...


Nisam to rekao, prodaja Metabaruna je sasvim ok.


To mi je drago cuti.


Markos vara narod!
Uepo je cuti da nesto pici kako valja!

Whenever You need hard center, I will be there...
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zeraprinc
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Serbia
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Member since 03/02/2004

Posted - 18/02/2008 : 21:19:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit zeraprinc's Homepage  Send zeraprinc a Private Message
Samo glasanje ne znaci nista, jer ima i nas koji nismo glasali, ali kupujemo svoje omiljene junake.

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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
3708 Posts

Member since 24/10/2007

Posted - 20/02/2008 : 19:45:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by zeraprinc

Samo glasanje ne znaci nista, jer ima i nas koji nismo glasali, ali kupujemo svoje omiljene junake.


Svakako...
JEste neka naznaka, ali o nekoj vecoj merodavnosti nesmemo govoriti...

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Markos
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Croatia
29384 Posts

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Posted - 20/02/2008 : 20:08:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
A zasto ne bismo smjeli?

Trouble will find me
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Man_of_Steel
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Serbia
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Posted - 20/02/2008 : 20:16:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Man_of_Steel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

A zasto ne bismo smjeli?


Nedostatak preciznije cifre o ljudima koji su kupili strip, a nisu glasali na nasem sajtu.
Neznamo koliko je to ljudi. Znamo okvirno.
Precizno znamo samo za nas sajt.

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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 20/02/2008 : 20:30:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Jesi ikad cuo za statistiku? Precizno znamo da je glasao 531 covjek. S obzirom kako je standardan tiraz strip albuma kod nas 500 primjeraka, taj broj glasaca je apsolutno dovoljan statisticki uzorak da se na osnovu njega donesu zakljucci o izborima.

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jurica
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 10:33:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
e, uzorak je dovoljan, ali nije reprezentativan.
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Markos
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Croatia
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 10:49:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Markos's Homepage  Send Markos a Private Message
Obrazlozi. Ja tvrdim da je.

Trouble will find me
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Toninho
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Croatia
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 11:53:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Toninho a Private Message
reko ja
mrgud

kad ce mirko i Slavko od prvog broja
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King Warrior
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 12:08:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message
Gdje mogu da vidim rang listu?
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jurica
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Posted - 21/02/2008 : 14:24:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send jurica a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Markos

Obrazlozi. Ja tvrdim da je.


ma kako? pa sto ti to pricas?
kako moze biti reprezentativan??? pa cak ni telefonske ankete provedene slucajnim odabirom ili slozenim algoritmom se ne smatraju reprezentativnim uzorkom jer
a) cak ni telefon nemaju svi
b) mnogi ljudi ne zele sudjelovati u anketama.

znaci krenimo od ociglednog:

a) nemaju svi internet
b) ne koriste svi stripovi.com stranicu
c) ne sudjeluju svi u anketama

oni koji nemaju internet mozda citaju drugacije stripove od onih koji imaju (vrlo vjerojatno, pogotovo sto reklamu primaju iz drugih medija), oni koji ne citaju stripovi.com opet imaju drugacije interese, primaju drugu reklamu od onih koji da, oni koji ne sudjeluju u anketama vjerojatno imaju i barem malo drugaciji sustav vrijednosti od onih koji da.

ne moze to nikako biti reprezentativan uzorak. ne bi prosao ni najpovrsniju kritiku nekakvog statistickog zavoda.
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