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kico
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:30:48
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
A kako da npr. ja budem na oba mjesta u isto vrijeme? A moram... A kako da stignem otisnuti sva izdanja na vrijeme, kad je datum pomaknut 15 dana naprijed... A kako... Ah. Ma dobro, no sikiriki.
Na jednom štandu ti,na drugom - žena! |
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kico
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:31:57
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quote: Originally posted by kiky
I'd choose Interliber. ;)
Ja nijedno... Prijatelj mi se tada ženi. A ionako nisam nešto zainteresiran... Jedino bi slikicu da mi nacrta barba Bednjanec. |
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:45:48
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quote: Originally posted by kico
quote: Originally posted by Markos
A kako da npr. ja budem na oba mjesta u isto vrijeme? A moram... A kako da stignem otisnuti sva izdanja na vrijeme, kad je datum pomaknut 15 dana naprijed... A kako... Ah. Ma dobro, no sikiriki.
Na jednom štandu ti,na drugom - žena!
Mislim da nije toliko problem stajanja za štandom, nego obezbjedivanja štanda in the first place. Koliko ce izdavaca skontati da im se isplati uzeti i jedan i drugi ako ce vecina ljudi doci na Interliber? Mada, niko nije još ni najavio burzu stripova (možda upravo iz ovih razloga?), tako da se Marko nema šta brinuti. Alal vam vjera. |
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Markos
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 12:59:38
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quote: Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic Mislim da nije toliko problem stajanja za štandom, nego obezbjedivanja štanda in the first place. Koliko ce izdavaca skontati da im se isplati uzeti i jedan i drugi ako ce vecina ljudi doci na Interliber? Mada, niko nije još ni najavio burzu stripova (možda upravo iz ovih razloga?), tako da se Marko nema šta brinuti. Alal vam vjera.
Ma bit ce burza i... dobro, to cu vec raspraviti s organizatorima. Jedna od ideja koju sam toplo pozdravljao je spajanje interlibera i crša, ali u istom prostoru, na velesajmu. Ovo je, po meni, jako loše rješenje. Sigurno postoje opravdani razlozi, ali to mi nista ne znaci. |
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risbozg
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 13:13:25
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e ovo ti je super ideja - spajanje crš-a i interlibera u jednom prostoru -- genijalnoooooo |
10.08.2003..''Kada nepravda postane zakon, otpor je tvoja dužnost.". AJMOOOOOOOO " CREME DE LA CREME HRVATSKE LIGE " DINAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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mali od palube
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 14:43:50
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! CRŠ!!!
Jedva sam cekao!!!
Sad samo sljedi šparanje do tog datuma i oslobadanje još jedne police!!!
Ako budem imao srece možda kompletiram svoju kolekciju Zagora!!! |
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mladjo
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 15:04:55
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quote: Originally posted by mali od palube
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! CRŠ!!!
Jedva sam cekao!!!
Sad samo sljedi šparanje do tog datuma i oslobadanje još jedne police!!!
Ako budem imao srece možda kompletiram svoju kolekciju Zagora!!!
Kako ceš doci?Sava nije plovna do Zagreba |
COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero
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mali od palube
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 16:05:03
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
quote: Originally posted by mali od palube
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! CRŠ!!!
Jedva sam cekao!!!
Sad samo sljedi šparanje do tog datuma i oslobadanje još jedne police!!!
Ako budem imao srece možda kompletiram svoju kolekciju Zagora!!!
Kako ceš doci?Sava nije plovna do Zagreba
Plivat cu! |
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mali od palube
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 16:08:13
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Inace mislim da je ovo odlicna prilika za razmjenu stripova bez troška od slanja poštom. idem staviti moju ponudu i potražnju pa ako nekog zanima...
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nika331
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:02:08
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quote: Originally posted by Dado
Zar nije bilo rijeci o zadnjem vikendu u 11. mjesecu? Tamo negdje 28. do 30.11.?
-Je,ali nije išlo zbog koncerta.Poklapanje sa INTERLIBER-om je namjerno i svrsishodno zbog posjetitelja i obicnih konzumenata knjige i stripa.Tocnije,prihvacena je moja sugestija. -Ove godine paralelno,a iduce godine---zajedno!!-Zašto,nadam se da ovo nije potrebno objašnjavat.Pravo mjesto i pravo vrijeme!Zbog kriticne mase! --Korist-više ljudi,više informacija,cista masovnost i lakše doprijet do konacnog kupca. -Na kraju,osim ova dva digadaja,možete navratit na festival jezza u Zagrebu taj vikend! |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:03:25
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quote: Originally posted by mcn
>-CRTANI ROMANI ŠOU održat ce se po jedanaesti puta za redom u >ZAGREBU,14,15 i 16.studenog(XI) 2008 godine!
Preklopili ste ga s Interliberom? Ma, bravo ...
mcn
-Da,namjerno zbog ljudi! |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:04:15
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quote: Originally posted by risbozg
ko je organiziral taj vikend kao da živi u australiji a ne zagrebu pa nije uspio sve sagledat
-Ja,moja sugestija,spojiš ugodno sa korisnim! |
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dveribad
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:07:27
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quote: Originally posted by dcopic
Pa dobro, to preklapanje s interliberom vecini ne bi trebalo smetati. CRŠ traje tri dana, sajam knjiga pet, lokacije su udaljene dvadesetak minuta vožnje tramvajem, pa ce tako oni koje dolaze iz vecih udaljenosti zbog toga profitirati.
-Evo,Dario je kratko i jednostavno sve objasnio! |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:08:30
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quote: Originally posted by aragon.sm
e sad moram doci na ovaj,a do sada nisam bijo ni na jednom :( ima da dodjem pamakar peske
-Dobrodošao! |
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dveribad
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:12:53
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quote: Originally posted by dcopic
quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by dcopic
Pa dobro, to preklapanje s interliberom vecini ne bi trebalo smetati. CRŠ traje tri dana, sajam knjiga pet, lokacije su udaljene dvadesetak minuta vožnje tramvajem, pa ce tako oni koje dolaze iz vecih udaljenosti zbog toga profitirati.
A kako da npr. ja budem na oba mjesta u isto vrijeme? A moram... A kako da stignem otisnuti sva izdanja na vrijeme, kad je datum pomaknut 15 dana naprijed... A kako... Ah. Ma dobro, no sikiriki.
Zato sam i napisao da bi vecini moglo odgovarati. Ali svakako su zbog izdavaca morali izbjeci preklapanje datuma, o tome nema pogovora.
-Pa ne rade se valjda festivali stripa zbog izdavaca?-Nekako mi je logicnije da se rade zbog crtaca i posjetitelja,u prvom redu!-Izdavaci su spona koja omogucava povezivanje te karike,a samu prodaju smo vec konkretizirali. |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:14:06
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quote: Originally posted by dcopic
+ da ce Interliber svu medijsku pažnju skrenuti na sebe, pa bi i posjecenost CRŠ-a mogla biti slabija. 
-Ne,Interliber ce samo pripomoc popularizaciji stripa i samog festivala. |
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Emir Pasanovic
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:37:07
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quote: Originally posted by dveribad
quote: Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic
Lijepo bogami, de te još razloga što da ne dodemo...
-Zašto Emire??
Mah, bilo je manje više zbog promjene termina i pretpostavke da ce zbog interlibera trpiti Šou. No ako ste uspjeli spojiti ugodno s korisnim Interliberom, skidam kapu. Sad samo cekam te druge goste koje najavljuješ, pa da možda prepoznam neko ime koje sam citao (osim Ribica i Kordeja). Istorijski nisam pretjerano potkovan sa djelima Reisingera, Bekera i ostalih, mada sam cuo za dosta njih. A propo zvanicnog naziva, Macane, hoce biti neko posebno izdanje Velikana za CRŠ?  |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:40:18
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quote: Originally posted by dveribad
quote: Originally posted by dcopic
quote: Originally posted by Markos
quote: Originally posted by dcopic
Pa dobro, to preklapanje s interliberom vecini ne bi trebalo smetati. CRŠ traje tri dana, sajam knjiga pet, lokacije su udaljene dvadesetak minuta vožnje tramvajem, pa ce tako oni koje dolaze iz vecih udaljenosti zbog toga profitirati.
A kako da npr. ja budem na oba mjesta u isto vrijeme? A moram... A kako da stignem otisnuti sva izdanja na vrijeme, kad je datum pomaknut 15 dana naprijed... A kako... Ah. Ma dobro, no sikiriki.
Zato sam i napisao da bi vecini moglo odgovarati. Ali svakako su zbog izdavaca morali izbjeci preklapanje datuma, o tome nema pogovora.
-Pa ne rade se valjda festivali stripa zbog izdavaca?-Nekako mi je logicnije da se rade zbog crtaca i posjetitelja,u prvom redu!-Izdavaci su spona koja omogucava povezivanje te karike,a samu prodaju smo vec konkretizirali.
-Da pojednostavim. -Ako nema crtaca,što ce radit izdavac?-Ako nema izdavaca,kako doc do crtacevog uratka?Ako nema konzumenta(citaca),zašto izdavat stripove i zašto ih crtat,za koga?--CILJ;pronac konzumenta,dovest ga do crtaca i izdavaca!Znaci,treba karike spojit,sve ostalo su sitni interesi i zlocasta naklapanja.Tko strip voli,posjetit ce ovakav dogadaj(ukoliko je u mogucnosti i ako je do njega doprla informacija o ovakvom ili slicnom dogadaju).Nema tu velike filozofije.Ja sam odlucio pomoc koliko mogu,a mislim da mogu,sve ostalo su cinizam i objede u koje ne želim ulazit. -Pozivam svakog tko misli ili želi nešto pomoc u svezi stripa,nek se javi.Ako želite javnu debatu,samo se javite.Ukoliko biste željeli nešto konkretno, pametno i dobronamjerno napravit u svezi stripa,slobodno se javite. |
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dveribad
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:48:08
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quote: Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic
quote: Originally posted by dveribad
quote: Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic
Lijepo bogami, de te još razloga što da ne dodemo...
-Zašto Emire??
Mah, bilo je manje više zbog promjene termina i pretpostavke da ce zbog interlibera trpiti Šou. No ako ste uspjeli spojiti ugodno s korisnim Interliberom, skidam kapu. Sad samo cekam te druge goste koje najavljuješ, pa da možda prepoznam neko ime koje sam citao (osim Ribica i Kordeja). Istorijski nisam pretjerano potkovan sa djelima Reisingera, Bekera i ostalih, mada sam cuo za dosta njih. A propo zvanicnog naziva, Macane, hoce biti neko posebno izdanje Velikana za CRŠ? 
-Radi se o nešto starijoj generaciji,odnosno o stripovima na kojima smo odrastali(narocito Bednjanec).Pratila nas MODRA LASTA kroz citavo djetinjstvo i školovanje.Uvjeren sam da si cuo za jednog Julesa Radilovica.Ideja je jednostavna,odat pocast i respekt toj grupi strip umjetnika.Ako budeš u mogucnosti navratit,za mene si dobrodošao! |
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bacho
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 17:59:54
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Dugo, predugo nikakve najave, a onda dosta dobro iznenadenje. Poklapanje s Interliberom. Ako sam se i poceo premišljati, sad je sigurno, na redu je novi izlet u Zagreb. Sad samo treba iskonstruirati proracun, ali to su slatke brige... |
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Markos
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 18:09:31
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quote: Originally posted by dveribad -Pa ne rade se valjda festivali stripa zbog izdavaca?-Nekako mi je logicnije da se rade zbog crtaca i posjetitelja,u prvom redu!-Izdavaci su spona koja omogucava povezivanje te karike,a samu prodaju smo vec konkretizirali.
-Da pojednostavim. -Ako nema crtaca,što ce radit izdavac?-Ako nema izdavaca,kako doc do crtacevog uratka?Ako nema konzumenta(citaca),zašto izdavat stripove i zašto ih crtat,za koga?--CILJ;pronac konzumenta,dovest ga do crtaca i izdavaca!Znaci,treba karike spojit,sve ostalo su sitni interesi i zlocasta naklapanja.Tko strip voli,posjetit ce ovakav dogadaj(ukoliko je u mogucnosti i ako je do njega doprla informacija o ovakvom ili slicnom dogadaju).Nema tu velike filozofije.Ja sam odlucio pomoc koliko mogu,a mislim da mogu,sve ostalo su cinizam i objede u koje ne želim ulazit. -Pozivam svakog tko misli ili želi nešto pomoc u svezi stripa,nek se javi.Ako želite javnu debatu,samo se javite.Ukoliko biste željeli nešto konkretno, pametno i dobronamjerno napravit u svezi stripa,slobodno se javite.
Ne da mi se ulaziti u javnu debatu, ALI ionako nikad nisam znao drzat jezik za zubima.
- budimo realni, jedan od velikih mamaca za publiku su nova (i stara) izdanja domacih izdavaca po festivalskim, snizenim cijenama. Ove godine neceš imati bar pola domacih izdavaca na festivalu, a ostala polovica nece moci dati popust zbog uvjeta prodaje. Istovremeno, ti isti izdavaci ce biti prisutni na Interliberu, na kojem ce, paradoksalno, biti osobno nazocni (što znaci da ih automatski nece biti na CRŠu - a s današnjim stanjem da izdavaca ima koliko i fanova, to ce se osjetiti na posjeti) i sa popustom na svoja izdanja. Sad ti meni reci kako je to dobro za festival? - Cilj je lijep, plemenit i za svaku pohvalu. Ali, ako misliš s Aljinovicem, Bednjancem, Radilovicem, Bekerom i Reisingerom privuci NOVE konzumente onda jedan od nas dvojice ima totalno krivu sliku o današnjoj publici. Svaka cast gore navedenim imenima, oni su velikani hrvatskog stripa i svakako im treba odati više nego zasluženu pocast, ali oni, po meni, nece privuci nikog novog. (Da ne govorim o nedostatku ikakve reklame i promjeni ustaljenog termina na koji ce dobar dio ljudi po navici racunati i onda se na kraju preracunati, jer je termin promijenjen, a oni nisu culi za to). Istovremeno - kad govorimo o privlacenju nove publike: Interliber posjeti minimalno 100.000 ljudi, a CRŠ bar 20 puta manje. Ako sam ja, kao izdavac, prisiljen birati izmedu to dvoje, savršeno je jasno što moram izabrati.
Kad zbrojimo ovo dvoje, rezultat ne izgleda dobro. Sorry, ali to je tako. |
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 14/10/2008 : 18:52:56
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quote: Originally posted by dveribad Ako budeš u mogucnosti navratit,za mene si dobrodošao!
Ma naravno da cu naletiti, svakako sam u Zagrebu, a i da nisam, otkako sam se vratio stripovima i došao na ovaj forum, CRŠ sam propustio samo one godine kada sam bio na drugom kontinentu. |
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