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Dule
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Croatia
546 Posts
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 Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:00:14
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Poštovani kolege,
imam pitanje za poznavatelje strip serijala "Zagor".
(Nije provokacija; radim na tekstu koji ce i vama ljubiteljima, biti zanimljiv.)
U "Info boxu" Zagora navodi se kao "Mjesto radnje" Divlji zapad!?
Pitanje je:
Može li se pobliže odrediti mjesto t.j.podrucje zbivanja Zagorovih epizoda?
Koliko se sjecam, (a na kiosku sam kupio prvu epizodu Zagora ovdje objavljenu, itd...), bilo je tu uvijek i nekih mocvara, lijana, pa i mora i brodova...
Da li je moguce da se recimo, radi o Floridi?
http://radiona-dan.blogspot.com
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Solid Snake
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Djibouti
2359 Posts
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:04:31
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| Darkwood je mjesto gde Zagor zivi,a to se nalazi negde kod Chikaga u okolini Velikih Jezera.A dosta epizoda radnja se odvija na sve strane sveta. |
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kerber
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Fyro Macedonia
1723 Posts
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:04:56
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oko 1800. rada se Patrick Wilding, u kolibi kod Clear Watera, na podrucju Darkwooda
oko 1810. smrt oba roditelja, brigu o djecaku preuzima pustolov Skitnica Fitzy
oko 1820. osveta ubojici roditelja, pokolj plemena Abenaka, saznanje istine o ocu, smrt Fitzyja
- grižnja savjesti, odluka o iskupljenju provodenjem pravde u Darkwoodu, susret sa Sullivanovima i Patrick Wilding postaje Zagor Te-Nay
oko 1830. susret sa Chicom
- klasicni sukobi sa ratobornim plemenima ili bijelim odmetnicima
- otkriva potomke Francuza koji su davno doplovili na novi kontinent
- sukob sa vješticom Yaskom
- otkriva Mali Narod i oslobada ih napasti ogromnih paukova
- prvi put se sukobljava sa Hellingenom i njegovim gorostasnim Titanom
1831. sukob sa Timber Billom
- sukob sa Iron manom
- prolazi Vrata Straha i otkriva primitivan narod na stupnju kamenog doba
- pogrešno optužen za pljacku i završava u kaznionici Hellgate
- upoznaje Bata Battertona
- upoznaje Digging Billa
- upoznaje profesora Verybada
- upoznaje baruna od Pera, sukob sa Jednookim Jackom
1832. upoznaje Jima Gitaru
- sukob sa Crnim Vukovima, upoznaje Mnogookog
- zajedno sa Batom Battertonom rješava slucaj Kuce strave
- prvi odlazak u veliki grad, Chicago, upoznaje grofa Lapalettea
- drugi sukob sa Jednookim Jackom
- upoznaje Fishlega i ekipu, drugi sukob sa Hellingenom
- prisilno ukrcan na brod, plovidba prema Bahamskom otocju
1833. iskrcavanje na Floridi, sudjelovanje u sukobu vojske i Seminola, upoznaje Manetolu
- povratak na sjever prema Darkwoodu, u Tennesseeju upoznaje Satka
- sukob sa vukodlakom
- u Virginiji otkriva skriveni grad Maya
- povratak u Darkwood i ponovni sukob sa Iron manom
- sa Batom Battertonom rješava slucaj sa Indijcima
- sukob sa Crvenim Mundirima
- prvi put se pojavljuje Going-Going
- odlazak u Port Whale na poziv kapetana Fishlega, sukob sa Vikinzima
- sukob sa Kraljem Orlova, Benom Stevensom
- nova pustolovina sa Digging Billom i potraga za blagom sa Plave Zvijezde
- sukob sa Arapima i lov na Jima Gitaru
1834. odlazak iz Darkwooda, ovaj put na sjever, u Kanadu, sukob s Molokom
- na povratku kuci, sukob s Eskimom
- sukob sa vampirom, barunom Rakosijem
- ponovni odlazak iz Darkwooda, spuštanje rijekom Tallapoosa, pocetak Americke odiseje
- povratak kuci iz Alabame, kroz Georgiju, susret s Manetolom i odlazak na Karibe, otok Britannija, upoznaje Liberty Sama
- nakon bijega s Britannije, camac sa Zagorom i Chicom razbija se o hridine Haitija, vudu i zombiji
- u Port-Au-Princeu susret s Fishlegom i mornarima s Golden Baby, nova pustolovina s Digging Billom
- put prema Meksickom zaljevu, dolazak u Galveston, susret s Jimom Gitarom
- povratak kuci, dolazak u Louisianu i New Orleans
- susret sa Batom Battertonom i barunom od Pera, pustolovina na Suroj stijeni
1835. nakon odsustva od nekih 8 mjeseci, dolazak kuci u Darkwood, medutim kolibe trapera i naselja indijanskih plemena su razorena i napuštena, vratio se Hellingen (treci put) koji je usavršio svoja tehnicka cuda i izumio rakete, Zagor i Tonka rješavaju situaciju
- povratak Going-Goinga, ponovni susret s profesorom Krugerom i odlazak u Crnu mocvaru, sukob sa «podvodnim cudovištem»
- upoznaje Fridu (prvi put u ljubavnim situacijama), upoznaje i Zimsku Zmiju
- sukob sa samurajima
- sukob sa Supermikeom
- sa Aljaske, u Darkwood dolaze Rusi, Zagor uz pomoc trapera i plemena sreduje stvar
- susret sa Batom Battertonom (peti) i Digging Billom (cetvrti), prvi put se bori protiv Kandraxa
- krace izbivanje iz Darkwooda, posjet plemenu Sauka, sukob sa covjekom-tigrom, otkriva naselje bivših crnih robova
-susret sa Sullivenovima
-savladava biljku mesoždera iz svemira
- uz pomoc grofa Lapalettea rješava situaciju sa barunom Smirnoffom (usput bio i u Bostonu)
1836. odlazi na Floridu, sukob sa potomcima konkvistadora
- ocito je ovo bio brz povratak u Darkwood, treci put se pojavljuje Going-Going, bori se protiv Tropskog odreda, spašava pukovnika Perryja
- odlazak u Norfolk na poziv kapetana Fishlega, srece Bata Battertona (šesti put), sukob sa Kinezima, drugi put u ljubavnom zagrljaju (sa Virginiom, Fishlegovom necakom)
- odlazak na sjever, na Velika jezera, sukob sa Butcherom
- brz povratak, drugi susret sa prof. Verybadom koji je izumio serum za nevidljivost
- odlazak u Alabamu, susret sa prijateljima Vikinzima, potraga za kolonijom koji su prije nekoliko stoljeca osnovali njihovi preci koji su prešli Atlantik (kolonija se nalazi u Tennesseeju)
- brz povratak kuci, avantura sa piranama
- susret sa Jimom Gitarom, odlazak u Charleston
- susret sa barunom od Pera, pukovnikom Perryjem, cetvrti put sukob sa Hellingenom, koji je uspostavio vezu sa Akronijanima, vanzemaljcima iz sazviježda Orion koji su vec prije 100 godina posjetili Zemlju, uz pomoc Keokuka, cuvara tajne, i indijanske magije, Zagor pobjeduje Akronijane i Hellingena, upoznaje Akota
1837. susret sa Sullivanovima, oprobava se u boksu
- bori se protiv fanatika koji je sagradio kopiju sjedišta olimpskih bogova
- drugi put se bori protiv vampira
- odlazi u Vermont, sukobljava se sa alkemicarem Von Axelom
- srece se sa Hivarosima, glavosjecama
- prvi put prelazi u paralelnu dimenziju u svijet Golnor, bori se protiv Crnog Gospodara
- avanture u Darkwoodu, covjek-munja, Vuk Samotnjak
- peta avantura s Digging Billom na izvoru rijeke Saskvehana
- suprotstavlja se Tkacu i njegovoj organizaciji, on i Chico završavaju u zatvoru u New Yorku, bili i u Filadelfiji
- pomaže Tonki u slucaju tajanstvenih nestanaka i otkriva fantasticni podzemni svijet
- treci sukob sa Jednookim Jackom, pa sa ESP-ovcem Rendalom
- pomaže Satku protiv drvosjeca i Timber Billa
- odlazi na sjever, ucestvuje u indijanskoj igri bagativej, na povratku kuci se drugi put sukobljava sa Eskimom
1838. ponovo se srece sa Supermikeom, ovaj put u prijateljskim odnosima
- sudjeluje u avanturi sa lordom Windamom u prolasku Divljeg zapada od Atlantika do Pacifika
- avanture u Darkwoodu, ponovni susret sa Zimskom Zmijom, treci susret sa prof. Verybadom
- odlazak u Zemlju bez povratka
- drugi sukob sa Kandraxom
- niz avantura u Darkwoodu, nova pustolovina sa Batom Battertonom, sa Digging Billom traga za legendarnim zlatnim runom
- pomaže Ramathu, povezivanje Jetija i Bigfoota
- ponovo prelazi u paralelni svijet, ovaj put ga tamo prenosi Hellingen, koji u tom svijetu uspijeva uništiti Darkwood, medutim žrtvom Akota, Zagor se uspijeva vratiti, a Hellingen nestaje u svom izmišljenom svemiru; pojavljuje se gomila Zagorovih prijatelja, barun od Pera, pukovnik Perry, Tonka, prvi put se srece sa Kiki Manituom
- spašava Tonku od strašnog prokletstva, preobrazbe u cudovišno stvorenje
- srece se sa Sullivanovima, drugi puta se bori protiv Butchera
- nova avantura sa Digging Billom
- bori se protiv strašnog stvorenja iz svemira
- niz avantura, kako klasicnih, tako i onih fantasticnih
1839. ponovo prelazi u paralelni svijet, u zemlju Wakan, bori se protiv Wendiga, upoznaje Heyoku Oprecnog
- niz avantura sa trgovcima viskija i smirivanja pobune Indijanaca
- upoznaje Henryja Kradljivca Sjena
- novi susret sa Verybadom koji je ovaj put izumio formulu smanjivanja
- drugi put protivnik mu je Hegel Von Axel
- odlazak iz Darkwooda i pocetak najduže avanture, sa Fishlegom i mornarima krece na Arktik kako bi spasio prijatelja Rochasa i lorda Frasiera, upoznaje Nata Murda
- potraga za Natom Murdom koji je oteo Akutanovu ženu, dolazak na Aljasku, sudjeluje u sukobu izmedu Rusa i Tlingita, srece Henryja Kradljivca Sjena, upoznaje kapetana Honest Joa
1840. krece sa Honest Joeom u Kaliforniju, uz kanadsku obalu avantura sa kineskim gusarima
- dolazi u Kaliforniju koja je tada u sastavu Meksika, u Los Angelesu se ponovo sukobljava sa Natom Murdom
- prolazi kroz Arizonu, sudjeluje u potrazi za mitskih 7 gradova Cibole, prvi put se srece sa civilizacijama Mu i Atlantida koje su uništile jedna drugu u drevnim ratovima
- avanture sa Navahosima i Apacima
- dolazi u Texas, avantura sa Komacima i teksaškim rendžerima
- srece Digging Billa, zajedno s njim dolazi u Louisianu, upoznaje Gambit, upoznaje madam Laveau, upznaje porodicu Lassalle i gusara Connora, avantura sa zombijima, oslobada se demon Majstor Carrefour, ljubavna epizoda sa Gambit
- srece Liberty Sama i pomaže mu da pobjegne s ostalim robovima u Afriku
- u Mississippiju ponovo srece Gambit
- stiže u Georgiju, pomaže Cherokeeijima i Satku
- nakon gotovo dvije godine izbivanja, stiže kuci u Darkwood, no zatice strašne stvari, ljude-kentaure, starog neprijatelja Bena Stevensa, ali sve vodi ponovnom sukobu sa Hellingenom kojeg je oživio Wendigo, vraca se Heyoka, upoznaje Edgara Alana Poa, saznajemo za postojanje tajne službe nazvane «Drugdje» koja se bavi nemogucim slucajevima, središnjica organizacije je u Filadelfiji
- odlazi u Port Whale pomoci Fishlegu, grad je pod vlašcu mracnih sila i tajanstvenog kulta Dagona, upoznaje Andrew Caina, drugi put suraduje sa agentima iz «Drugdje»
1841. nakon sukoba sa Krakenom, oluja odbacuje Fishlegov brod na pucinu i tako Zagor prvi put završava preko Atlantika, u Škotskoj, srece lorda Frasiera i Nata Murda
- poslije te avanture iskrcava se u Bostonu, tu srece Honest Joa i pocinje pustolovina na Grenlandu, drugi put se upoznaje s drevnim ratom Atlantide i Mu
- Honest Joe ga iskrcava u New Yorku, sukobljava se sa Mortimerom
- treci sukob s vampirom
- još jedan prelazak u paralelni svijet, u Tir-Nan-Og
- drugi sukob sa Mortimerom
- avantura u Texasu, ponovni susret sa Komancima i teksaškim rendžerima
- ponovo u Louisijani, pomaže Digging Billu, susret sa Jacquesom Lassallom i gusarom Connorom
- krece u Afriku
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Solid Snake
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Djibouti
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elfak nish
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Serbia
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kerber
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Fyro Macedonia
1723 Posts
Member since 22/03/2006 |
Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:12:06
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Se nadevam copy/paste ti e ova Kerberu... 
ne bre,sega go napisav,za nekolku minuti,onaka od sekavanje   |
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Dule
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Croatia
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:15:59
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Ekipo, fala!
Jedva da sam odšepao do frižidera, a vec toliko podataka...
Tokom iducih 5-6 dana šaljem tekst koji ce vas nadam se veseliti.
Pozdrav,
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sigismundus
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dessa
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Ferri
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:46:06
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Originally posted by elfak nish
Darkvud je,koliko se secam,na tromedji 3 amereicke federacije.
Mislim da su u pitanju zapadna virzinija,pensilvanija i jos jedna-ne mogu se setiti koja
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Ferri
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 02:48:02
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Originally posted by Dule
Poštovani kolege,
imam pitanje za poznavatelje strip serijala "Zagor".
(Nije provokacija; radim na tekstu koji ce i vama ljubiteljima, biti zanimljiv.)
U "Info boxu" Zagora navodi se kao "Mjesto radnje" Divlji zapad!?
Pitanje je:
Može li se pobliže odrediti mjesto t.j.podrucje zbivanja Zagorovih epizoda?
Koliko se sjecam, (a na kiosku sam kupio prvu epizodu Zagora ovdje objavljenu, itd...), bilo je tu uvijek i nekih mocvara, lijana, pa i mora i brodova...
Da li je moguce da se recimo, radi o Floridi?
http://radiona-dan.blogspot.com
Sto se lijana tice , to u Sumama sjeverne Amerike nema, to su autori izmisljali. |
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GeneziS
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 04:08:30
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| sto puta je Nolita rekao da je Darkwood izmišljena teritorija na sjeveru sjedinjenih država. Pa su i lijane izmišljene. |
Arguing On The Internet Is Like running In The Special Olympics - Even If You Win, You're Still Retarded
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Renky
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 09:36:10
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Originally posted by GeneziS
sto puta je Nolita rekao da je Darkwood izmišljena teritorija na sjeveru sjedinjenih država. Pa su i lijane izmišljene.
A Zagor?
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"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 09:39:23
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| Znaci Zagor je tamo 43 godišnjak...pravi mladic. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI!
STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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Kit Carson
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 11:16:13
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Originally posted by Renky
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Originally posted by GeneziS
sto puta je Nolita rekao da je Darkwood izmišljena teritorija na sjeveru sjedinjenih država. Pa su i lijane izmišljene.
A Zagor?
Hi hi hi...
Nije valjda da je i Zagor izmisljen? Sad ce neko jos da kaze da i Deda Mraz ne postoji. |
Ubrzajte Texa u koloru na 2 mesecno! |
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SainT
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 12:28:10
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elfak nish je u pravu!
Darkwood se nalazi na tromedju Pensilvanije, Ohaja i sadasnje americke savezne drzave Zapadna Virdzinija, a tadasnja Virdzinija. Znaci Darkwood NIJE u Floridi, NIJE u Indijani, i NIJE kod Chikaga u Ilinoisu, nego kod Pitsburga - negde izmedju Pitsburga u Pensilvaniji i Jangstauna u Ohajo.
http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/zagor/servizi/faq.html
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.641172,-80.500037&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=40.641172,-80.500037
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Apparently I've signed the death warrant of a whole army of beavers... Badgers, Minister. What? Well, beavers would have a navy! |
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Renky
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elfak nish
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 13:31:13
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Originally posted by SainT
elfak nish je u pravu!
Darkwood se nalazi na tromedju Pensilvanije, Ohaja i sadasnje americke savezne drzave Zapadna Virdzinija, a tadasnja Virdzinija. Znaci Darkwood NIJE u Floridi, NIJE u Indijani, i NIJE kod Chikaga u Ilinoisu, nego kod Pitsburga - negde izmedju Pitsburga u Pensilvaniji i Jangstauna u Ohajo.
http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/zagor/servizi/faq.html
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.641172,-80.500037&spn=0.1,0.1&t=m&q=40.641172,-80.500037
Pa secam se da behu tri drzave,nisam se mogo setiti trece.
Darkvud je mozda izmisljena teritorija,ali je,i kao takva,smestena na tromedji americkih drzava. |
Soundgarden - Halfway There
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SainT
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 13:53:19
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[/quote]Pa secam se da behu tri drzave,nisam se mogo setiti trece.
Darkvud je mozda izmisljena teritorija,ali je,i kao takva,smestena na tromedji americkih drzava.
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http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/zagor/servizi/faq.html
Sergio Bonelli replies to your questions
ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING INVENTIONS REGARDING THE ZAGOR UNIVERSE IS DARKWOOD FOREST: A PLACE OF THE FANTASTIC WHERE ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER MORE CLASSIC AND TRADITIONAL WESTERN SCENES. HOW DID THE IDEA FOR THIS BACKDROP COME ABOUT?
Darkwood was an intuitive decision: from the moment I decided to write imaginative stories that were not linked to precise historical and geographic schemes as in Tex, it seemed right to invent a fantastic and unreal world, a little like Flash Gordon in the thirties and Conan now. I think it is very important for a script-writer to have an imaginary world in which he can do anything he wants, without having to always explain why the scene has changed so quickly, having them all at his disposition. I wanted Zagor to have his own kingdom, like Robin Hood and like Tarzan, a mysterious forest. So I thought of Darkwood, an immense region, rich in adventurous "environments" (particularly the forest, but also the marshes, the mountains, the prairies, the frontier cities). Darkwood is situated in the world of fantasy and not in the real world. I endowed my fantasy-world character with an equally fantastic environment. What's more, explorers in the world of adventure would have difficulty in tracing precise maps regarding the scenes in which many of the other comics heroes move. For example the Phantom: Skull Cave, where he usually lives, can be found in the Bandar pigmy forest, in Bengal. In the geographic atlas, Bengal is in the Indian subcontinent. Besides tigers and Rajahs, the Phantom meets lions, black tribes and Bedouins. So, is it India or Africa? It is clear that the Bengal of the Phantom can only be found in atlases of fantasy. For another magic comic of the thirties, Flash Gordon, Alex Raymond even invented a planet, Mongo, where he created a kingdom of forests, flying kingdoms and adventurous landscapes for his hero. After all, why limit oneself to creating a character, when you can create a universe? As long as the rules of logic, good taste, and narrative tension are respected, geographic precision can become "elastic" at the discretion of the author and the story's requirements. In this overpopulated planet of ours, where there is nowhere left to explore, the door to fantasy that gives on to the extraordinary and the unknown is still open.
NEVERTHELESS, NOT EVERYTHING IN DARKWOOD IS THE FRUIT OF IMAGINATION. THE FOREST HAS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT A PRECISE GEOGRAPHIC POSITION, AND IN THE COURSE OF TIME THE BORDERS HAVE BECOME MORE CLEARLY OUTLINED AND THE EXCESSIVELY FANTASTIC CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ENVIRONMENT HAVE BEEN ROUNDED OFF. SO WHERE IS DARKWOOD, THEN? AND WHAT IS REAL ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE REGION DESCRIBED IN THE ZAGORIAN SAGA?
Darkwood is an imaginary region, but many references are real. Firstly, the Indian tribes, but also several geographic names of hills, rivers and valleys. I have tried, of course, to find a balance between truth and fantasy, exploring the infinite kingdom of the "possible" and the "plausible". For example, Fort Henry (one of the military outposts in which Zagor ends up frequently) really existed. It lay on the River Wheeling and today in its place lies the city which is called Wheeling. So where is Darkwood, then? More or less, in the North-East of the United States. In the region immediately south of the Great Lakes, between Ohio and Pennsylvania. Here is the first inconsistency: Darkwood forest is tropical, it even has creepers, while its position would suggest a Nordic vegetation (such as conifer forests). Fantasy, however, has its geographic "diversity" that is not at the mercy of climatic laws, but only to those, that are more varied, of adventure. Changing times, changes in readers' taste and narrative techniques, and finally the alternation among scriptwriters, some of whom are more scrupulous about documentation, means that today the creepers are less in evidence and the names of places and their characteristics are increasingly probable, without however renouncing the original layout. I myself today would be inhibited if I had to write a new character and I would find myself consulting entire libraries. When Zagor was created, however, it was fine to find alligators in the Darkwood marshes and the result was fresh, imaginative and for this reason a winner.
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elfak nish
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Serbia
5705 Posts
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 14:06:26
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Originally posted by SainT
Pa secam se da behu tri drzave,nisam se mogo setiti trece.
Darkvud je mozda izmisljena teritorija,ali je,i kao takva,smestena na tromedji americkih drzava.
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http://www-en.sergiobonellieditore.it/zagor/servizi/faq.html
Sergio Bonelli replies to your questions
ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING INVENTIONS REGARDING THE ZAGOR UNIVERSE IS DARKWOOD FOREST: A PLACE OF THE FANTASTIC WHERE ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER MORE CLASSIC AND TRADITIONAL WESTERN SCENES. HOW DID THE IDEA FOR THIS BACKDROP COME ABOUT?
Darkwood was an intuitive decision: from the moment I decided to write imaginative stories that were not linked to precise historical and geographic schemes as in Tex, it seemed right to invent a fantastic and unreal world, a little like Flash Gordon in the thirties and Conan now. I think it is very important for a script-writer to have an imaginary world in which he can do anything he wants, without having to always explain why the scene has changed so quickly, having them all at his disposition. I wanted Zagor to have his own kingdom, like Robin Hood and like Tarzan, a mysterious forest. So I thought of Darkwood, an immense region, rich in adventurous "environments" (particularly the forest, but also the marshes, the mountains, the prairies, the frontier cities). Darkwood is situated in the world of fantasy and not in the real world. I endowed my fantasy-world character with an equally fantastic environment. What's more, explorers in the world of adventure would have difficulty in tracing precise maps regarding the scenes in which many of the other comics heroes move. For example the Phantom: Skull Cave, where he usually lives, can be found in the Bandar pigmy forest, in Bengal. In the geographic atlas, Bengal is in the Indian subcontinent. Besides tigers and Rajahs, the Phantom meets lions, black tribes and Bedouins. So, is it India or Africa? It is clear that the Bengal of the Phantom can only be found in atlases of fantasy. For another magic comic of the thirties, Flash Gordon, Alex Raymond even invented a planet, Mongo, where he created a kingdom of forests, flying kingdoms and adventurous landscapes for his hero. After all, why limit oneself to creating a character, when you can create a universe? As long as the rules of logic, good taste, and narrative tension are respected, geographic precision can become "elastic" at the discretion of the author and the story's requirements. In this overpopulated planet of ours, where there is nowhere left to explore, the door to fantasy that gives on to the extraordinary and the unknown is still open.
NEVERTHELESS, NOT EVERYTHING IN DARKWOOD IS THE FRUIT OF IMAGINATION. THE FOREST HAS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT A PRECISE GEOGRAPHIC POSITION, AND IN THE COURSE OF TIME THE BORDERS HAVE BECOME MORE CLEARLY OUTLINED AND THE EXCESSIVELY FANTASTIC CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ENVIRONMENT HAVE BEEN ROUNDED OFF. SO WHERE IS DARKWOOD, THEN? AND WHAT IS REAL ABOUT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE REGION DESCRIBED IN THE ZAGORIAN SAGA?
Darkwood is an imaginary region, but many references are real. Firstly, the Indian tribes, but also several geographic names of hills, rivers and valleys. I have tried, of course, to find a balance between truth and fantasy, exploring the infinite kingdom of the "possible" and the "plausible". For example, Fort Henry (one of the military outposts in which Zagor ends up frequently) really existed. It lay on the River Wheeling and today in its place lies the city which is called Wheeling. So where is Darkwood, then? More or less, in the North-East of the United States. In the region immediately south of the Great Lakes, between Ohio and Pennsylvania. Here is the first inconsistency: Darkwood forest is tropical, it even has creepers, while its position would suggest a Nordic vegetation (such as conifer forests). Fantasy, however, has its geographic "diversity" that is not at the mercy of climatic laws, but only to those, that are more varied, of adventure. Changing times, changes in readers' taste and narrative techniques, and finally the alternation among scriptwriters, some of whom are more scrupulous about documentation, means that today the creepers are less in evidence and the names of places and their characteristics are increasingly probable, without however renouncing the original layout. I myself today would be inhibited if I had to write a new character and I would find myself consulting entire libraries. When Zagor was created, however, it was fine to find alligators in the Darkwood marshes and the result was fresh, imaginative and for this reason a winner.
[/quote]"North-East of the United States. In the region immediately south of the Great Lakes, between Ohio and Pennsylvania"
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SainT
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 14:32:10
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[/quote]"North-East of the United States. In the region immediately south of the Great Lakes, between Ohio and Pennsylvania"
To je pravi odgovor na pitanje.
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Juzno od jezera Erie (Iri), jer nikako ne moze biti juzno od ostala 4 Velika Jezera: Superior, Michigan, Huron i Ontario.
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Solid Snake
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goksi
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Solid Snake
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Renky
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 15:23:13
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Ma jednostavno se kaže... Južno od Fort Ontarija, da ceo svet razume. |
"Zlocin je spomenuti reci "velikani" i "umetnost" u kontekstu sa Zagorom, veruj mi..." - Manhunter |
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Djuro
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 21:13:05
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Originally posted by Solid Snake
Zagor je ustav.
He, he, ova ti je dobra. Malo je reci da je Zagor zakon, bolje naglasiti da je Zagor najjaci od svih i da svi ostali moraju slusati ono sto kaze Zagor. Kako jednostavno opisati ovu Zsgorovu osobinu? Lako, Zagor je ustav!
Eto i odgovora na vjecito pitanje, ko je jaci Zagor ili Blek. Ako ima pravne drzave, onda bi Zagor odvalio Bleka, jer makar Blek bio zakon, Zagor je ustav! |
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