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johnhartson
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Serbia
2814 Posts
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 Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:10:15
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Najprostije:
A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player
commits any of the following three offences:
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his
own penalty area)
Fudbalski pravilnik nenamerno igranje rukom NE sankcionise. To sto malo ljudi to zna (razume/zeli da zna/prihvata da ne zna) druga je stvar. |
Until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes - dis a war |
Edited by - johnhartson on 08/03/2013 11:12:16 |
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Leonid
Senior Member
Croatia
2448 Posts
Member since 24/12/2010 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:26:10
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Tom svojom rukom je sprijecio cist gol.
Ispružio ju je maksimalno i to bez razloga.
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"Liston even smells like a bear. I'm gonna give him to the local zoo after I whup him" |
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dr strangelove
Advanced Member
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USA
8866 Posts
Member since 26/12/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:37:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Leonid
Tom svojom rukom je sprijecio cist gol.
Ispružio ju je maksimalno i to bez razloga.
Pa naravno.
Kao da ima veze što nije on išao rukom na loptu nego je njega lopta pogodila u ruku i što po tome nije namjerno igrao rukom (uskogrdno gledajuci). |
It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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Jasko
Advanced Member
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Nicaragua
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Member since 29/02/2012 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:37:20
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Originally posted by Leonid
Tom svojom rukom je sprijecio cist gol.
Ispružio ju je maksimalno i to bez razloga.
Ti si bese fanatik Reala?
Ajmo o pravilima i onome sto pise u PFI. Ako cemo o tome, ako ne, slobodni ste da si pisete sta vam volja, ionako ce to sve odneti ruzmarin, snegovi i sas. |
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dr strangelove
Advanced Member
USA
8866 Posts
Member since 26/12/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:52:09
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhartson
Najprostije:
A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
• kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
• trips or attempts to trip an opponent
• jumps at an opponent
• charges an opponent
• strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
• pushes an opponent
• tackles an opponent
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player
commits any of the following three offences:
• holds an opponent
• spits at an opponent
• handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his
own penalty area)
Fudbalski pravilnik nenamerno igranje rukom NE sankcionise. To sto malo ljudi to zna (razume/zeli da zna/prihvata da ne zna) druga je stvar.
Da, samo što se smatra namjerno da je sve osim ako ruka nije u prirodnom položaju, uz tijelo ili se braniš. Drugim rijecima - ako trciš kao Son Goku po terenu i lopta te pogodi u ruku pri udarcu na gol - to je isto penal.
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It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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johnhartson
Senior Member
Serbia
2814 Posts
Member since 17/10/2003 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 11:55:04
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quote:
Originally posted by dr strangelove
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Originally posted by Leonid
Tom svojom rukom je sprijecio cist gol.
Ispružio ju je maksimalno i to bez razloga.
Pa naravno.
Kao da ima veze što nije on išao rukom na loptu nego je njega lopta pogodila u ruku i što po tome nije namjerno igrao rukom (uskogrdno gledajuci).
Citirao sam ti pravilo iz pravilnika dostupnog svima. Ocenjuje se samo namera. Sudija ocenjuje da li je tako postavio ruke s ciljem da spreci put lopti. Sudija je procenio da nije. Ti mislis da jeste. Nema tu nista uskogrudo. |
Until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes - dis a war |
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dr strangelove
Advanced Member
USA
8866 Posts
Member since 26/12/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:01:52
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Pod tim "uskogrdno gledajuci" sam mislio to da nije on rukom išao na loptu nego je njega lopta pogodila. Uskogrdno gledajuci, on nije imao nikakvu namjeru dirat rukom loptu.
Ali uzimajuci u obzir da to nije prirodan položaj ruku i da je on ocito ruke stavio u taj položaj samo da bi sprijecio loptu da dode do gola - onda je namjerno igrao rukom i penal nije dvojben. |
It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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dr strangelove
Advanced Member
USA
8866 Posts
Member since 26/12/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:03:32
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Originally posted by johnhartson
A mozemo da navodimo primere sumnjivih odluka iz poznatih utakmica. Recimo, cuvena utakmica Celzi-Barsa. Lopta pogadja Pikea u ruku, Ovrebo ostaje nem. Ili kasnije Alvesa (doduse vise u rame), Ovreba Balak zamalo nije pregazio. Ili recimo Barsa-Inter, kad je u 90. minutu ponistio Krkicev gol kojim bi Barsa isla dalje jer je lopta pogodila Jaju Turea u ruku (koja mu je bila uz stomak, nema veze s rukom).
Ovoj situaciji od nakjuce je vrlo bila slicna situacija kad je lopta pogodila Tima Kejhila u ruku na tekmi sa SP 2010. Australija-Srbija. Sudija je isto ostao nem. Ocigledno da sve zavisi od procene namere ili ne, a prirodni polozaj nije samo ono sto tvrdis da je. 
A jebate, ne sjecam ti se ja nicega od toga što si naveo  |
It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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johnhartson
Senior Member
Serbia
2814 Posts
Member since 17/10/2003 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:03:49
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Mozemo da navodimo primere sumnjivih odluka iz poznatih utakmica. Recimo, cuvena utakmica Celzi-Barsa. Lopta pogadja Pikea u ruku, Ovrebo ostaje nem. Ili kasnije Alvesa (doduse vise u rame), Ovreba Balak zamalo nije pregazio. Ili recimo Barsa-Inter, kad je u 90. minutu ponistio Krkicev gol kojim bi Barsa isla dalje jer je lopta pogodila Jaju Turea u ruku (koja mu je bila uz stomak, nema veze s rukom).
Ovoj situaciji od nakjuce je vrlo bila slicna situacija kad je lopta pogodila Tima Kejhila u ruku na tekmi sa SP 2010. Australija-Srbija. Sudija je isto ostao nem. Ocigledno da sve zavisi od procene namere ili ne, a da prirodni polozaj nije samo ono sto tvrdis da je. Dzon Teri je imao takve igre rukom jedno desetine puta u karijeri, pa bi mu to retko bilo dosudjeno. |
Until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes - dis a war |
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wele
Advanced Member
Montenegro
3727 Posts
Member since 21/12/2009 |
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dr strangelove
Advanced Member
USA
8866 Posts
Member since 26/12/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:41:27
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Originally posted by wele
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Originally posted by dr strangelove
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Jesi li ikad igrao fudbal?Makar iza zgrade ili na livadi,na male golove? 
Zar nismo svi?  |
It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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Leonid
Senior Member
Croatia
2448 Posts
Member since 24/12/2010 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:42:38
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Originally posted by Jasko
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Originally posted by Leonid
Tom svojom rukom je sprijecio cist gol.
Ispružio ju je maksimalno i to bez razloga.
Ti si bese fanatik Reala?
Ajmo o pravilima i onome sto pise u PFI. Ako cemo o tome, ako ne, slobodni ste da si pisete sta vam volja, ionako ce to sve odneti ruzmarin, snegovi i sas.
Samo što danima svaku sudacku odluku navlacite na stranu Uniteda.
I nepostojeci korner iz kojeg je United dao gol u prvoj utakmici i nedosudeni penal na Di Mariji i zalede RvP-a u uzvratu i ruku Rafaela koja je obranila cisti gol.
Meni je jasno da je i Realu progledano kroz prste ali nikako nije onako kako vi govorite,da je United pokraden nezapamceno. |
"Liston even smells like a bear. I'm gonna give him to the local zoo after I whup him" |
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supermark
stripovi.com suradnik
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Croatia
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Member since 06/02/2007 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 12:47:01
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ma ono je ruka
po johnhartsonu i jasku svi bi mogli stati na gol crtu, dici ruke sto vise i zatvoriti oci
a kad bi ih lopta pogodila - nista
jer nije bilo namjere, pa nisu ni vidjeli loptu jer su zazmirili |
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Jasko
Advanced Member
Nicaragua
6228 Posts
Member since 29/02/2012 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 13:01:34
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Originally posted by supermark
ma ono je ruka
po johnhartsonu i jasku svi bi mogli stati na gol crtu, dici ruke sto vise i zatvoriti oci
a kad bi ih lopta pogodila - nista
jer nije bilo namjere, pa nisu ni vidjeli loptu jer su zazmirili
Nije po meni, nego po pravilima
I kaznjava se namerno igranje rukom i ruka u neprirodnom polozaju (te se i tu kaze da je zbog namere). |
Edited by - Jasko on 08/03/2013 13:02:44 |
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Jasko
Advanced Member
Nicaragua
6228 Posts
Member since 29/02/2012 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 13:03:17
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Originally posted by Leonid
Samo što danima svaku sudacku odluku navlacite na stranu Uniteda.
I nepostojeci korner iz kojeg je United dao gol u prvoj utakmici i nedosudeni penal na Di Mariji i zalede RvP-a u uzvratu i ruku Rafaela koja je obranila cisti gol.
Meni je jasno da je i Realu progledano kroz prste ali nikako nije onako kako vi govorite,da je United pokraden nezapamceno.
Koji mi? Gde me to svrstavas?
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Leonid
Senior Member
Croatia
2448 Posts
Member since 24/12/2010 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 13:12:08
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Originally posted by Jasko
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Originally posted by Leonid
Samo što danima svaku sudacku odluku navlacite na stranu Uniteda.
I nepostojeci korner iz kojeg je United dao gol u prvoj utakmici i nedosudeni penal na Di Mariji i zalede RvP-a u uzvratu i ruku Rafaela koja je obranila cisti gol.
Meni je jasno da je i Realu progledano kroz prste ali nikako nije onako kako vi govorite,da je United pokraden nezapamceno.
Koji mi? Gde me to svrstavas?
Citaj prethodne stranice...gdje te svrstavam? Medu one koji tvrde da je United naveliko pokraden,ne znam možda griješim ili sam krivo skužio tvoje recenice  |
"Liston even smells like a bear. I'm gonna give him to the local zoo after I whup him" |
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Jasko
Advanced Member
Nicaragua
6228 Posts
Member since 29/02/2012 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 13:18:41
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Originally posted by Leonid
Citaj prethodne stranice...gdje te svrstavam? Medu one koji tvrde da je United naveliko pokraden,ne znam možda griješim ili sam krivo skužio tvoje recenice
Definitivno si krivo skuzio. Evo sta sam napisao:
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A dobro, koliko vas stvarno veruje da je sudija sa namerom ostetio Mancester?!
Startovao jeste pogibeljno, nije bilo namere. Sudija nije osetio igru, ali je mozda i postupio po pravilima (naravno, rigidno).
Svako zna suditi utakmicu, treba znati voditi 8)
Ne tvrdim da je Junajted pokraden. Sami su krivi za poraz. |
Edited by - Jasko on 08/03/2013 13:19:27 |
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Leonid
Senior Member
Croatia
2448 Posts
Member since 24/12/2010 |
Posted - 08/03/2013 : 13:30:28
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Originally posted by Jasko
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Originally posted by Leonid
Citaj prethodne stranice...gdje te svrstavam? Medu one koji tvrde da je United naveliko pokraden,ne znam možda griješim ili sam krivo skužio tvoje recenice
Definitivno si krivo skuzio. Evo sta sam napisao:
quote:
A dobro, koliko vas stvarno veruje da je sudija sa namerom ostetio Mancester?!
Startovao jeste pogibeljno, nije bilo namere. Sudija nije osetio igru, ali je mozda i postupio po pravilima (naravno, rigidno).
Svako zna suditi utakmicu, treba znati voditi 8)
Ne tvrdim da je Junajted pokraden. Sami su krivi za poraz.
Onda se ispricavam |
"Liston even smells like a bear. I'm gonna give him to the local zoo after I whup him" |
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selanne
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
7672 Posts
Member since 11/09/2009 |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 21:17:10
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| Dajem Flaminija i Montoliva za Pirla. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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brni
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Croatia
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wele
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Montenegro
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selanne
stripovi.com suradnik
Bosnia and Herzegovina
7672 Posts
Member since 11/09/2009 |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 21:32:01
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Originally posted by brni
Simpaticna ekipica ovaj Milan..
Utakmica je za mene završila nakon one Niangove stative, ne želim gledati masakr koji slijedi u drugom poluvremenu. |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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supermark
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Member since 06/02/2007 |
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Caleb
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Greece
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PAJDO
Senior Member
Croatia
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Member since 10/04/2003 |
Posted - 12/03/2013 : 21:40:40
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Originally posted by Tutta
Danas Fc Schalke 04 ima najtezu utakmicu! U gostima su izvukli 1:1. Danas opet igraju u gostima!!!
Galatasnajper zasluženo vodi. Odlicno poluvrijeme |
In spite of my rage I´m still rat in a cage... |
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