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lwood
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 Posted - 29/05/2014 : 00:19:13
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Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Žene koje rade taj posao kao i neke druge bilo koji drugi.
I zašto je pitanje samo o ženskim porno zvijezdama, zar su inferiorne muškima, ili što?
Neke su u tom poslu toliko postale ocajne da su pocinile samoubojstvo (Savannah, Paula Yates, Karen Lancaume...), neke su pomišljale na samoubojstvo kao recimo Traci Lords koja je tvrdila da iz dna duše mrzi i prezire svaki hebeni ku... koji je ikad bio u njoj, Cicciolina je dogurala do parlamenta a za Moanu Pozzi se nakon smrti saznalo da je vodila dvostruki život i da je imala muža i dijete.
Teresa Orlowski je postala bogata i uspješna poslovna žena koja je na snimanjima upoznala i muža, a Beate Uhse je nekad bila pojam europske pornjave.
Kci Laurencea Fishburnea Montana svojedobno je tvrdila da je pornice pocela snimati pritisnuta ocevom slavom i da pobjegne od njega, a on je zbog toga bio totalno u komi.
Razlozi i motivi njihovih ulazaka u svijet pornografije su razliciti, tko zna kakvi i sasvim intimni, ponekad moguce i rubno psihoticni pa i psihopatološki.
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depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
Jbga Lwoode nisam ti ja kriv kaj nisi uspio u životu |
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nagor
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 00:21:18
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Mislim da sam upala u mušku svlacionicu, ali totalno je baš tako.
Necu više prisluškivati. Idem sad, samo se nemojte medusobno poceti pipkati. 
Tek sad si skužila da si u muškoj svlacionici. 
Carli, tvoje mišljenje želimo cuti buduci da si malo drukcija od nas vecine ovdje na forumu. 
Nemam pojma što bih ti rekla. Ne znam ime niti jedne glumice na tu temu ali to nije bitno, samo bi mi bilo žao ako ima neka koja ne uživa u tome što radi. Fuckaš lovu ako se patiš za nju ko Konzumove djelatnice. No, jedino mi je sad palo na pamet da u ovoj porno industriji igraju fer. Za ševu su placeni i muškarac i žena, dok u
neslužbenoj porno industriji, obicnom životu, politici i srodnim djelatnostima muški placaju tu ševu.
Pa, baš i nije fer. Žene su puno bolje placene.
U biti to samo potvrduje ono što govorim.
Muška i ženska seksualnost nemaju istu težinu.
Female porn performers earn much more than male porn performers. A porn actor can earn as little as $150 to as much as $1500 per scene. Gay scenes pay higher than straight scenes with actors earning $500 or more. An actress on the other hand typically earns anywhere between $400 – $2000 per shoot depending on the nature of the scene, the filming company and the actress’ level of experience. Asa Akira for instance earns $2000 per scene due to her huge level of experience and popularity. A top female actress usually gets $800 for a gay scene, $1000 for a straight scene, and can receive $5,000 or more for more sexually compromising scene. |
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lwood
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 00:22:43
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| pa normalno da nemaju istu težinu.ne mogu je ni imat. |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
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nagor
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 00:26:05
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Mislim da novije generacije porno glumica nemaju neku grižnju savjesti ili nešto slicno što bi ih nagnalo na samoubojstvo iz jednostavnog razloga što je danas taj biznis društveno puno prihvaceniji nego što je to bio slucaj u prošlom stoljecu.
Ako nitko ne vrši pritisak ili cak javno pljuvanje prema takvim osobama one se mogu cak i ugodno osjecati u obavljanju svoga posla pa nema potrebe da prolaze kroz stresna razdoblja u svome životu.
Mislim, da se nijedna nije ubila baš zbog toga što se bavi pornografijom. Ubila se vjerojatno zbog istih razloga zbog kojega je i ušla u taj posao. Emocionalno nestabilna, ne previše razgledana, siromašna duhom i kapitalom... vjerojatno ju kakav pimp uveo u to... pitaj boga što se sve dešavalo behind the scenes. Zbog toga se ljudi ubijaju.
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Uvijek sam mislio da su muški glumci bolje placeni od žena jer je njihov posao teži ali sad vidim da sam se prevario. Ali to se sve na kraju ipak izjednaci jer najaktivniji i najpoznatiji glumci tijekom svoje karijere koje mogu biti vrlo duge snime i po 2000-3000 filmova dok kod glumica još nisam vidio slucaj da ta brojka prelazi 500-600.
Evo npr. ovaj tip pod umjetnickim imenom James Deen http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=JamesDeen/gender=m/james-deen.htm nema još ni 30 godina a snimio je cak 1853 filma, nemjerljivo više nego je to uspjelo njegovom originalnom imenjaku. |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:13:10
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Originally posted by nagor
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Originally posted by Just_Charlie
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Originally posted by nagor
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Originally posted by Just_Charlie
Mislim da sam upala u mušku svlacionicu, ali totalno je baš tako.
Necu više prisluškivati. Idem sad, samo se nemojte medusobno poceti pipkati.
Tek sad si skužila da si u muškoj svlacionici.
Carli, tvoje mišljenje želimo cuti buduci da si malo drukcija od nas vecine ovdje na forumu.
Nemam pojma što bih ti rekla. Ne znam ime niti jedne glumice na tu temu ali to nije bitno, samo bi mi bilo žao ako ima neka koja ne uživa u tome što radi. Fuckaš lovu ako se patiš za nju ko Konzumove djelatnice. No, jedino mi je sad palo na pamet da u ovoj porno industriji igraju fer. Za ševu su placeni i muškarac i žena, dok u
neslužbenoj porno industriji, obicnom životu, politici i srodnim djelatnostima muški placaju tu ševu.
Pa, baš i nije fer. Žene su puno bolje placene.
U biti to samo potvrduje ono što govorim.
Muška i ženska seksualnost nemaju istu težinu.
Female porn performers earn much more than male porn performers. A porn actor can earn as little as $150 to as much as $1500 per scene. Gay scenes pay higher than straight scenes with actors earning $500 or more. An actress on the other hand typically earns anywhere between $400 – $2000 per shoot depending on the nature of the scene, the filming company and the actress’ level of experience. Asa Akira for instance earns $2000 per scene due to her huge level of experience and popularity. A top female actress usually gets $800 for a gay scene, $1000 for a straight scene, and can receive $5,000 or more for more sexually compromising scene.
Pa kad nama muški nisu toliko "napeti" valjda, kao što vama žene jesu i ne prodaju se toliko pornici ženama pa onda u skladu s tim su muškarci i placeni. Jer, mi žene to sve možemo dobiti zabadava dok mnogo toga vi morate kupiti da bi gledali, imali, vidjeli.. Zakon ponude i potražnje. Je tako? |
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lwood
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:17:02
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depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
Jbga Lwoode nisam ti ja kriv kaj nisi uspio u životu |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:27:33
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Originally posted by lwood
da nije tako ne bi ni postojali.
tko ne bi postojao? Muški?
Ma našli bi vi vec nacin da se samorodite. 
šalim se. Pornici ne bi postojali.
I samo cu vam jedno svoje mišljenje reci, temeljeno na vašem znanju na tu temu, imenima glumica i postovima ovdje. Covjece, da vam tako ide ekonomija!
No, nije to to mišljenje. Ovo je: tema mi je nezanimljiva ali vaši postovi jesu. Ne, nije ni to, ovo je moje mišljenje:
Koji ste vi drkadžije!
(fala vam što sam i to spoznala)
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:27:38
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Originally posted by lwood
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Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Žene koje rade taj posao kao i neke druge bilo koji drugi.
I zašto je pitanje samo o ženskim porno zvijezdama, zar su inferiorne muškima, ili što?
Neke su u tom poslu toliko postale ocajne da su pocinile samoubojstvo (Savannah, Paula Yates, Karen Lancaume...), neke su pomišljale na samoubojstvo kao recimo Traci Lords koja je tvrdila da iz dna duše mrzi i prezire svaki hebeni ku... koji je ikad bio u njoj, Cicciolina je dogurala do parlamenta a za Moanu Pozzi se nakon smrti saznalo da je vodila dvostruki život i da je imala muža i dijete.
Teresa Orlowski je postala bogata i uspješna poslovna žena koja je na snimanjima upoznala i muža, a Beate Uhse je nekad bila pojam europske pornjave.
Kci Laurencea Fishburnea Montana svojedobno je tvrdila da je pornice pocela snimati pritisnuta ocevom slavom i da pobjegne od njega, a on je zbog toga bio totalno u komi.
Razlozi i motivi njihovih ulazaka u svijet pornografije su razliciti, tko zna kakvi i sasvim intimni, ponekad moguce i rubno psihoticni pa i psihopatološki.
mislin da se boldana nije ubila.
Nažalost ipak je, tocnije od posljedica pokušaja samoubojstva.
Savannah (pornographic actress)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Savannah
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Born Shannon Michelle Wilsey[1]
October 9, 1970[2]
Laguna Beach, California, U.S.[2]
Died July 11, 1994 (aged 23)[2]
Burbank, California, U.S.
Other names Silver Cane, Silver Kane,[2] Savanah, Silver
Ethnicity Caucasian[2]
Height 5 ft 6 in (1.68 m)[2]
Weight 105 lb (48 kg; 7.5 st)[2]
No. of adult films 122 (per IAFD)[2]
Shannon Michelle Wilsey (October 9, 1970 – July 11, 1994), better known by her stage name of Savannah, was an American pornographic film actress, starring in more than one hundred videos during her career. One of the most prominent adult-industry models of her time, she achieved notoriety within her short (1990–1994) career due to her on-screen presence and personal life.[1] In January 2002, AVN ranked her at #19 on their list of the top 50 porn stars of all time.[3]
Wilsey reportedly took her stage name from Savannah Smiles, a 1982 movie she enjoyed.[4] She died in 1994 in the hospital after a suicide attempt.
Contents [hide]
1 Career
2 Personal life
3 Death
4 In popular culture
5 Awards
6 Mainstream filmography
7 See also
8 References
9 External links
Career[edit]
Wilsey was introduced to the adult film industry by actor and director Rex Cabo.[5] She signed an exclusive contract with Vivid Entertainment in 1991 and became one of the earliest Vivid Girls. She began using drugs and spending large amounts of money, and she reportedly had severe financial troubles despite her substantial income. She also garnered a reputation for being temperamental,[6] leading Vivid to sever its association with her in 1992.
Wilsey also appeared in a variety of minor roles in B movies (mostly comedy, horror and/or scifi) where she was credited with her real name. These roles included The Invisible Maniac in 1990[7] and Camp Fear in 1991.
Even after her death, Wilsey continued to appear via archived footage. She had a role as Santana on Joe Bob's Drive-In Theater when the show aired Sorority House Massacre II in October 1994.[9] In 2009, Antigua Pictures released a DVD titled Savannah: The Lost Footage that featured six previously unreleased scenes.[10] As recently as 2012, archive footage has been used to release new adult videos.[11]
Personal life[edit]
In 1972 when she was just two, Wilsey's parents divorced. She grew up in Texas with her mother and then, after a brief stay with her father in Oxnard, CA, lived with her grandparents in Mission Viejo, where she became a high school cheerleader. Her manager, Nancy Pera, said that Wilsey told her that her childhood was unhappy and that she had been molested. Wilsey's father, Mike, said his daughter never told him about any such abuse.[12]
She began dating rock star Gregg Allman while still in high school, eventually going on tour with him for several years. After returning to California, she decided on a career in the entertainment industry. Her symmetrical good looks, enhanced by two separate breast enlargements, and her pale blond hair brought her to the attention of Vivid Video in Van Nuys where she was signed as a contract Vivid Girl.[12]
In a video interview for Vivid Wilsey stated that first time she saw "erotic material" was when she was "snooping through her parents things" and found some magazines. She later states that she used to watch porn videos with her boyfriend on his tour bus (presumably referring to Allman). [13][14]
Wilsey became involved in a long-term relationship with fellow pornographic actress Jeanna Fine, with whom she later claimed to have fallen deeply in love.[15] In a 1999 interview following the airing of the E! Channel True Hollywood Story about Wilsey's life and death, Fine commented, "We had an ongoing, on-again, off-again, volatile, loving relationship. At that time I was having a lot of problems myself. Between [male porn actor] Sikki Nixx and Savannah pushing and pulling, I pretty much at one point ran away from them both. I couldn't take it any longer. But I feel I left her behind when she needed me most. It's very sad."[16]
She also had relationships with singer Billy Idol, comedian Pauly Shore,[17] bassist Billy Sheehan, guitarist Slash,[17] actor Mark Wahlberg,[13] and Vince Neil of Mötley Crüe.[18] According to an interview with Adult Video News, Wilsey stated "I love sex and I love sex with rockers more than anything else..."[1]
Death[edit]
Wilsey committed suicide in 1994 by shooting herself after a car accident.[1][17][19] On the evening of 11 July 1994, Wilsey was involved in an accident with her Corvette where she reportedly broke her nose and injured her face. Upset over the accident, she went home in Universal City, asked a friend to walk her dog, and then called her manager Nancy Pera. It was Pera that discovered Wilsey's body in the garage of her home.[1] Wilsey did not immediately die, she passed away hours later in the hospital after her father decided to shut down her life support systems when it became obvious that she would not survive her injury.[1][12] Shore stated that he was with her when she passed in St. Joseph's Hospital in Burbank.[20]
Her funeral was two days later and was attended by friends, family, and limited numbers of Adult industry associates. Shore was the only one of her ex-boyfriends to attend the service.[1] Of Wilsey, Shore said, "She was the nicest, most beautiful girl I ever met," "[her death] was a very dramatic thing for me." When asked why she killed herself, he said, "She became Savannah. She became her character, who was into drugs, and needed reassurance all the time. She forgot who Shannon was." "I knew she wanted out (of the porn business)," he said.[20]
Wilsey's death was the third high profile suicide (at the time) in the Adult industry.[1] After her death, Bill Margold founded Protecting Adult Welfare (P.A.W.), a non-profit organization that provides counseling for adult performers in need.[21]
In popular culture[edit]
The songs "Savannah Smiles" and "Shannon Wilsey on the Starry Stairs" by Okkervil River and "Savannah: Flights of Ecstasy" by Sheavy are both in homage to Wilsey.[22]
Awards[edit]
1992 AVN Award – Best New Starlet[23]
1996 AVN Hall of Fame inductee[24] |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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lwood
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:38:02
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Originally posted by lwood
da nije tako ne bi ni postojali.
tko ne bi postojao? Muški?
Ma našli bi vi vec nacin da se samorodite.
šalim se. Pornici ne bi postojali.
I samo cu vam jedno svoje mišljenje reci, temeljeno na vašem znanju na tu temu, imenima glumica i postovima ovdje. Covjece, da vam tako ide ekonomija!
No, nije to to mišljenje. Ovo je: tema mi je nezanimljiva ali vaši postovi jesu. Ne, nije ni to, ovo je moje mišljenje:
Koji ste vi drkadžije!
(fala vam što sam i to spoznala)
to je cista biologija. koliko prosjecni muški pomisli na nešto u vezi sa sexon dnevno?
10 puta? 20 puta? 100 puta? 1000 puta?
i ne bi postojala ljudska vrsta da nije tako.
isti q kod svih viših primata.
sve u svemu evolucijska biologija za pocetnike
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depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
Jbga Lwoode nisam ti ja kriv kaj nisi uspio u životu |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 01:53:11
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Je li, a kad onda stignete citati Zagora? Ili vas i usred citanja Zagora spopadne? Hm..
ess..
(e, a di je on, ne vidim ga na forumu?)
Strašno.
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Wilsey committed suicide in 1994 by shooting herself after a car accident.[1][17][19] On the evening of 11 July 1994, Wilsey was involved in an accident with her Corvette where she reportedly broke her nose and injured her face. Upset over the accident, she went home
Oh fak, koji bugger! Navodno slomila nos i ozlijedila lice pa se upucala!?
Šta bi si tek uradila da joj prsnula sisa prilikom kreša ili da si je dislocirala picku? Onda bi se zapalila i pojela bombu? |
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tinton
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 09:51:54
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Originally posted by lwood
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Originally posted by Just_Charlie
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Originally posted by lwood
da nije tako ne bi ni postojali.
tko ne bi postojao? Muški?
Ma našli bi vi vec nacin da se samorodite.
šalim se. Pornici ne bi postojali.
I samo cu vam jedno svoje mišljenje reci, temeljeno na vašem znanju na tu temu, imenima glumica i postovima ovdje. Covjece, da vam tako ide ekonomija!
No, nije to to mišljenje. Ovo je: tema mi je nezanimljiva ali vaši postovi jesu. Ne, nije ni to, ovo je moje mišljenje:
Koji ste vi drkadžije!
(fala vam što sam i to spoznala)
to je cista biologija. koliko prosjecni muški pomisli na nešto u vezi sa sexon dnevno?
10 puta? 20 puta? 100 puta? 1000 puta?
a žene?
isto toliko...
ako ne i više |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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@trolodtroje:
@nagor: no offense ali naivan si ako misliš da žene manje razmišljaju o seksu. Ta zabluda je u bliskoj vezi sa onom "starom narodnom" koju si napisao par postova prije. Pitaj koju frendicu kad bude pijana i dobije napadaj iskrenosti. Ili jednostavno pitaj iskrenu žensku, ako naletiš na takvu.
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@nagor: no offense ali naivan si ako misliš da žene manje razmišljaju o seksu. Ta zabluda je u bliskoj vezi sa onom "starom narodnom" koju si napisao par postova prije. Pitaj koju frendicu kad bude pijana i dobije napadaj iskrenosti. Ili jednostavno pitaj iskrenu žensku, ako naletiš na takvu.
A šta mislite? Da se žene seksaju da bi nama ugodile? Ili iskljucivo zbog produžavanja vrste? |
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Just_Charlie
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 12:14:44
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Originally posted by Cromwell
@nagor: no offense ali naivan si ako misliš da žene manje razmišljaju o seksu. Ta zabluda je u bliskoj vezi sa onom "starom narodnom" koju si napisao par postova prije. Pitaj koju frendicu kad bude pijana i dobije napadaj iskrenosti. Ili jednostavno pitaj iskrenu žensku, ako naletiš na takvu.
A šta mislite? Da se žene seksaju da bi nama ugodile? Ili iskljucivo zbog produžavanja vrste?
Tintone!? Dijete. Još ti fale cigara i konjak da upotpune tvoja promišljanja temeljena na iskustvu.
Bjež! Tužit cu te mami.
Da bi "nama ugodile"..ma vidi ti djecaka. A ni ovi ostali
nisu puno zreliji na ovoj temi.
Inace, može li mi netko pokušati odgovoriti koja je svrha pornografije?
Zašto je to potrebno ljudima?
Imam svoje mišljenje ali ga ne bih rekla jer bih njime sve ubila u pojam a nisam raspoložena jutros da budem okrutna. Ali cu biti, s vremenom. |
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Posted - 29/05/2014 : 12:22:02
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@trolodtroje:
@nagor: no offense ali naivan si ako misliš da žene manje razmišljaju o seksu. Ta zabluda je u bliskoj vezi sa onom "starom narodnom" koju si napisao par postova prije. Pitaj koju frendicu kad bude pijana i dobije napadaj iskrenosti. Ili jednostavno pitaj iskrenu žensku, ako naletiš na takvu.
nije to zabluda nego cinjenica.
ka šta je cinjenica da imaš neusporedivo veci broj muških nego ženskih zatvorenika.
da su nasilni zlocini gotovo iskljucivo muška domena.
da ne spominjemo piromaniju i serijske ubojice.
jedva da ima koja žena.
sve je to testosteron boys |
depresivni iskompleksirani primitivac i nadrkana budala kojeg financira stari i koji sa skoro 50 godina nema ni žene ni posla.Pa naravno da je ljut na sve, a narocito na one koji su uspješni.
Jbga Lwoode nisam ti ja kriv kaj nisi uspio u životu |
Edited by - lwood on 29/05/2014 12:22:35 |
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tinton
stripovi.com suradnik
United Kingdom
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Member since 23/10/2011 |
Posted - 29/05/2014 : 12:33:43
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Carlita, masila si ceo fudbal.
Pod nama sam mislio na opcenitu skupinu muskaraca. Ne na sebe.
Ne pusim i ne pijem... |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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