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stinky
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 22:57:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message
Citajuci stripove, primjetio sam da uzimam zdravo za gotovo (a vjerojatno i vi) dopisivanje Indijanaca putem dimnih signala. Ono, dimom šalju tocne i precizne poruke, ko pismom. E pa to me malo zagolicalo, pa me zanima jel ima neko pojma da malo pojasni i objasni tu stvar sa dimnim signalima; da li su se služili njima, kako, šta se u biti može poruciti dimnim signalima, ako se nešto uopce može i slicno.

PS - i sam bih poslao ovaj post dimnim signalima, ali ne ide preko skenera. Ili ja ne znam sve cake.

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Denmark
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 23:02:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Top a Private Message
ma vjerovatno jesu, al su mozda imali neki sistem ko moreuzovu abacedu, al sumnjam da je bilo i tako napredno. mozda su imali 10-tak razliciti dimova za neke generalne poruke o lovu, neprijateljima itd. a ovo kako to zagor u stripu radi, to sigurno nije bilo tako avancirano

*-*"...cini mi se rodjace, da je standard pokvario ljude, jedu govna i sanjare..."*-*
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Thunderbolt
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 23:03:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Thunderbolt a Private Message


E,ma i ja san se to pita.To je sve pocelo onda kada je Zagoru krepala baterija na mobu...
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Thunderbolt
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 23:04:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Thunderbolt a Private Message
...a Chico je sprema pecenje...
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 23:25:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
DA LI SLALI DIMNE SIGNALE KADA SU PRVI PUT IMALI SEX?

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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zeljko
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Posted - 08/01/2003 : 23:47:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
problem vjetra je uvijek prisutan


mozda su imali znakove za pojedine glavne pojmove

ništa sofisticirano sa mnogo POM POV i sa gerundivima

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
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Thunderbolt
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Croatia
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 00:02:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Thunderbolt a Private Message
A sigurno jesu.Ma niki nebi moga napravit odreden dim za svvako pojedino slovo.Sigurno nisu imali ni usklicnika,zareza itd.
Ili su forsi,kao u stripovima,pomocu grana napisali text,te ga stavili u oblak dima ,te dim pustili u visine i tako su svi mogli vidit ca pise i jednostavno procitat.
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KOLEKCIONAR
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 01:11:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KOLEKCIONAR a Private Message
Meni visu neshvatljivost predstavljaju BUBNJEVI (za rat, zagor zove sve poglavice na okup,nitkov bjezi prema srebrnom kanjonu, itd..)
Ovo sa dimom, mogu i razumjeti, ali to sa bubnjevima nikako..

Pijte braco jacu iz bokala zameneje svaka casa mala...
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GParlov
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 03:56:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send GParlov a Private Message
Otprilike je to funkcioniralo tako da je jedan oblak znacio da je uocen neprijatelj,dva oblaka da je neprijatelj jako brojan ili tri da se neprijatelj udaljava sa teritorija ,odnosno, da je opasnost prosla.U zavisnosti od situacije moglo je znaciti i da su uoceni bizoni,odnosno da ih ima jako puno i sl.Isto vrijedi i za bubnjeve ,a bilo kakva kompleksnija komunikacija ( onakva kakvu vidamo u Zagoru ) je cista glupost!
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D.J.
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 05:18:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send D.J. a Private Message 
Isto vrijedi i za bubnjeve ,a bilo kakva kompleksnija komunikacija ( onakva kakvu vidamo u Zagoru ) je cista glupost!

Ta me vijest bas nazalostila. Ja sam kao i Stinky to uzimao zdravo za gotovo a sad cujem to je cista masta.

Since peace of mind is my single goal, forgiveness is my function.
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zeljko
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 12:42:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by KOLEKCIONAR

Meni visu neshvatljivost predstavljaju BUBNJEVI (za rat, zagor zove sve poglavice na okup,nitkov bjezi prema srebrnom kanjonu, itd..)
Ovo sa dimom, mogu i razumjeti, ali to sa bubnjevima nikako..

Pijte braco jacu iz bokala zameneje svaka casa mala...



baš je sa bubnjevima lakše komunicirati i brže

ali ostaje problem daljine



Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
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stinky
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 13:12:45  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit stinky's Homepage  Send stinky a Private Message
Jel ima negdje u literaturi o Indijancima da se spominje to sa dimnim signalima i takav nacin komuniciranja?
Jesu li oni izmislili takav nacin komunikacije ili su to koristili i neki drugi narodi?
Jel ko citao baš o tome, pa nek malo objasni.
Jasno je da su doslovne poruke dimom nonsens, pa sam i pretpostavljao ono što kaže Parlov, ali me baš zanima ako neka zna detaljnije.

Onda sam olovom pogasio sva svjetla u toj rupi i izašao.
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Aco
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 21:42:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Aco's Homepage  Send Aco a Private Message
Ja mislim da dimni signali služe za zajebanciju.

Bond.James Bond.
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 23:44:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Top a Private Message
znaci ipak sam bio u pravu kako Parlov kaze, odredjeni znakovi u vezi neprijatelja strazarenja i lova... cool nego koja je adresa kod zagora bil ana pismima sto je dranky drank nosio?

*-*"Cogito ergo sum"*-*
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Maximuss
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Posted - 09/01/2003 : 23:48:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Maximuss's Homepage  Send Maximuss a Private Message
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 10/01/2003 : 00:02:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Emir Pasanovic's Homepage  Send Emir Pasanovic a Private Message
Najbolji dimni signali: kod Branka Copica u 'Orlovi rano lete', kada djeca na brijegu sa razlicitim brojem dimova dojavljuju u selo da dolaze ustase - broj dimova = broj jedinica ustasa.
Bubnjevi su rasireniji od dimnih signala, takva vrsta komunikacije je postojala, a ja mislim da i sad postoji u Africi kod crnackih plemena. A djes bolje komunikacije nego kad ti svirac na dobosu zasvira mars, a ti sav u poletu nagrnes na neprijateljsku silu...

I still remember the face of My father...
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fumettisti
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Posted - 10/01/2003 : 17:27:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send fumettisti an ICQ Message  Send fumettisti a Private Message
stinker,,ja samo kuzim da kada na kuci vidim veliki oblak dima,nesto je poslo po zlu,ili plinska boca.ili previse vatre u peci,ili netko pali stripove.he he he
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 13/01/2003 : 20:22:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Emir Pasanovic's Homepage  Send Emir Pasanovic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by fumettisti

stinker,,ja samo kuzim da kada na kuci vidim veliki oblak dima,nesto je poslo po zlu,ili plinska boca.ili previse vatre u peci,ili netko pali stripove.he he he

I nice one

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MarcusDrake
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Posted - 14/01/2003 : 20:18:23  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send MarcusDrake a Private Message
Sta ima cudno u komuniciranju bubnjevima, pa svatko može zapamtiti 30 ili 50 razliciti ritmova koji imaju neko znacenje. Sigurno nisu mogli pomocu bubnjeva reci bilo što, osim ako nisu koristili nešto poput Morseove abecede, a nisu.

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