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DeeCay
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Posted - 14/01/2003 : 21:57:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message
Ne znam dal je neko procitao novi eXtra Dylan Dog, al mene njegov naslov "Zlocin" ne asocira na ovaj broj. Dajte mi objasnite kakav i koji zlocin?
Dnevnik je taj broj isto drugacije preveo, "Njujork Njujork", ali je taj naslov bar imao veze sa pricom. Zar je tako veliki grijeh ostaviti originalan naslov?
Ovo govorim zato jer mi je ovaj broj odlican i jer je posveta mnogim odlicnim djelima strave i užasa. Doduše brutalan je, no to i jeste karakteristika tematike Dylan Dog stripa...

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umpahpah
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Posted - 15/01/2003 : 15:53:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send umpahpah a Private Message
Možda ga netko ne bi kupio da se zove "Cagliostro"?
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Aster
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Posted - 15/01/2003 : 16:00:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Aster's Homepage  Send Aster a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by DeeCay

Ne znam dal je neko procitao novi eXtra Dylan Dog, al mene njegov naslov "Zlocin" ne asocira na ovaj broj. Dajte mi objasnite kakav i koji zlocin?
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U pravu si.Dnevnikov naslov je bio najprecizniji u vezi ove price.
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 15/01/2003 : 17:51:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
Na njemackom se strip zove kao i u originalu "Cagliostro".

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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rommel
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Posted - 15/01/2003 : 19:21:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send rommel a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by umpahpah

Možda ga netko ne bi kupio da se zove "Cagliostro"?


a zasto ne...zasto se citaoci stripova moraju automatski podcjenjivati...zasto se smatraju zadnjim debilima....primjerice naslov new york, new york ne asocira na nista (mozda na dylanove veze sa al quaedom) a zlocin i kazna na dostojevskoga - u svakom slucaju i jedna i druga asocijacija su pogresne - ali Cagliostro - vec sam naslov puno kazuje jer je Giuseppe Balsamo - grof Cagliostro prilicno poznata licnost - Alkemicar koji je tvrdio da posjeduje moc pretvaranja kamena u zlato - i koji je proucavao okultne znanosti - sasvim dovoljno da strip u kojem je glavni junak Dylan Dog - ponese orginalni naslov....ako su naši izdavaci neuki - citatelji stripova to nisu...ko kupuje dylan doga kupiti ce ga radi samog junaka, ko ne kupuje redovito dd prije ce ga kupiti radi naslova Cagliostro nego li radi naslova Zlocin i Kazna (ili New York, New York)....


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When They're All Chasing After Poor Bloody Fox,
It's Safer To Dress Like The Hound!
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DeeCay
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Posted - 15/01/2003 : 22:55:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message
Pošto baš i ne znam talijanski, pomislio sam da je naslov "Zlocin" neki prijevod rijeci "Cagliostro"... Ali ne, pa sam u tražilicu upisao Cagliostro i izbacilo je mnoštvo stranica o zloglasnom alkemicaru. Tada mi je bilo jasno zašto se macak i zove Cagliostro. A mislim da se kasnije macak pojavljuje u još 2 broja DD.
I na kraju naslov "Zlocin" je totalno izvan logike. Isto tako se mogao zvati i "Zlocin i kazna" ili "Dylan Dog u raljama cudovišnog cudovišta"
Opcenito mi se ne svida kad se ne prevodi originalni naziv... Mislim da scenarista ili ona koji je zadužen za naslov najbolje zna kako nazvati svoje djelo.
No i kako kažete, marketinški odjel ce naslov sigurno pretvoriti u nešto spektakularno, što moraš kupiti cim vidiš...

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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 09:47:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
Kad je DD ubio one dvije sestre u DD broju 3 to je bio zlocin u ocima trece sestre. Valjda.

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SejoSexon
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 13:26:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
Njemacki broj nosi originalni naslov Cagliostro.

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 16:46:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
To si vec rekao.

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SejoSexon
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 20:36:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Verfalk2003

To si vec rekao.

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Only a send of beauty left behind...

VIDIO SAM!
Jebiga, nisam citao ove stare postove.

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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zeljko
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 20:37:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zeljko a Private Message
OVO JE PROVALA DESETLJECA
ALI U POZITIVNOM SMISLU

AJDE BRZO BRIŠITE POSTOVE DA NEKO NE VIDI

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.
Those who filmed it were devoured alive by cannibals!
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SejoSexon
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 20:41:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit SejoSexon's Homepage  Send SejoSexon a Private Message
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Originally posted by zeljko

OVO JE PROVALA DESETLJECA
ALI U POZITIVNOM SMISLU

AJDE BRZO BRIŠITE POSTOVE DA NEKO NE VIDI

Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam!
When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth.
Those who filmed it were devoured alive by cannibals!

Nema brisanja. Kada se provalim, stojim iza toga.

Nije Ibro jarane naš fukara, Ibro ti je de facto umjetnik. Shvacas?
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BOGI
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Posted - 29/09/2003 : 21:20:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit BOGI's Homepage  Send BOGI a Private Message
heheh
meni je ipak najbolji prevod NJu Jork, Nju Jork
mislim da se vjestica i macak i cagliostra pojavljuju i u dd Vanini Maelstrom

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ski up hill.
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dd fan
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Posted - 30/09/2003 : 01:46:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dd fan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BOGI

heheh
meni je ipak najbolji prevod NJu Jork, Nju Jork
mislim da se vjestica i macak i cagliostra pojavljuju i u dd Vanini Maelstrom

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ski up hill.


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nesco
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Posted - 30/09/2003 : 11:22:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit nesco's Homepage  Send nesco a Private Message
Nemam u principu nista protiv ako se naslov ne prevede u originalu,mislim jezici se razlikuju sto dobro zvuci na ovom ne zvuci na onom....... Ali naziv "Zlocin" je totalno kretenski pa po toj logici svaki DD moze tako da se zove, u svakoj epizodi dogodi se neki zlocin.....

...Raspolagati tudjom mukom nije mala zajebancija...
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---dp---
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quote by SejoSexon:
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VIDIO SAM!
Jebiga, nisam citao ove stare postove.
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quote by rommel:
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a zasto ne...zasto se citaoci stripova moraju automatski podcjenjivati...zasto se smatraju zadnjim debilima....primjerice naslov new york, new york ne asocira na nista (mozda na dylanove veze sa al quaedom) a zlocin i kazna na dostojevskoga - u svakom slucaju i jedna i druga asocijacija su pogresne - ali Cagliostro - vec sam naslov puno kazuje jer je Giuseppe Balsamo - grof Cagliostro prilicno poznata licnost - Alkemicar koji je tvrdio da posjeduje moc pretvaranja kamena u zlato - i koji je proucavao okultne znanosti - sasvim dovoljno da strip u kojem je glavni junak Dylan Dog - ponese orginalni naslov....ako su naši izdavaci neuki - citatelji stripova to nisu...ko kupuje dylan doga kupiti ce ga radi samog junaka, ko ne kupuje redovito dd prije ce ga kupiti radi naslova Cagliostro nego li radi naslova Zlocin i Kazna (ili New York, New York)....
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Kad je u pitanju trziste i to da li ce vise ljudi kupiti strip ovako ili onako, onda tu igraju neka sasvim druga pravila...


quote by nesco:
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pa po toj logici svaki DD moze tako da se zove, u svakoj epizodi dogodi se neki zlocin.....
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Onda bi se svaki Zagorov strip zvao "Ciko jede"
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Verfalk2003
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Posted - 30/09/2003 : 12:26:33  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Verfalk2003's Homepage  Send Verfalk2003 a Private Message
---dp---, svaki Zagorov strip se treba zvati AHYAAAAAAAAK!

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---dp---
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Posted - 01/10/2003 : 14:57:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send ---dp--- a Private Message
Moze i tako Verfalk2003
A moze i AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (tako je bilo kod "Dnevnika")
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