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miha
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 19:20:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send miha a Private Message
Da li se je neko bavio sa prevodenjem stripova ili graficnom obradom? Imam nekoliko pitanja.

Koji font i tehniku koristite za upisivanje u oblacice kad radite sa A4?
-Photoshop 5.0?
-u kombinaciji sa MS Paint?
-koja velicina slova?
-koji settingsi u Photoshopu?
-koje komande?
-postoji li automatizacija postupka? (imate scenario u 5 jezika ali ne biste da 5 puta radite copy/paste)

Ja tražim rešenje koje bi slicilo fontu kakav je u Asterixovemu Zabavniku. Da li ima neko font koji slici na onaj kaligrafski Zlatne Serije ili slicno, treba mi za prijatelja.

Ako neko ima, neka javi ovdje na forumu da ce mi poslati i pošalje na miha11@yahoo.com (moj mailbox ima limit 4 MB)

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BiDi
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 19:54:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit BiDi's Homepage  Send BiDi an ICQ Message  Send BiDi a Private Message
ja sam pronasao super fontove.. samo nisu u 1250 kodnoj tabeli, imaju samo š

http://www.apostrophiclab.com/ -> GRAB -> Komika



Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads!

Edited by - BiDi on 06/06/2003 19:58:49
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miha
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 20:03:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send miha a Private Message
š kao - šteta
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seinfeld
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 20:36:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send seinfeld a Private Message
Scream font je dobar.

I'm the hand up Mona Lisa's skirt. I'm a surprise. They don't see me coming: that's what you're missing.
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mcn
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 20:45:05  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>Koji font i tehniku koristite za upisivanje u oblacice kad radite sa >A4?

Neke fontove kuchne izrade (by Bob & Melina, nisu dostupni za ssiru upotrebu, pogotovo profesionalnu, sorry).

-Photoshop 5.0?

Mislim da je bio 6.0, ali radio sam jednom i u Quarku. Quark je mozzda zgodniji za automatizaciju, ako se iccega sjecham, jer postaviss prozorcciche jednom pa ako to sejvass uvijek su otvoreni. Sad, mozzda priccam gluposti, mozzda mozzes i u PS zadrzzati layere, te novi tekst kopipejstati preko selektiranog stranog. S druge strane, pet jezika neche biti isti po duzzini rijecci ni redaka pa chess neku korekturu uvijek i tako morati raditi ispoccetka.

-koja velicina slova?

A, to ocijeniss prema stripu i dostupnom mjestu.

-koji settingsi u Photoshopu?

Hm?

-koje komande?

Ono T dugme i pomicanje/narihtavanje s onom trokutastom strelicom pri vrhu menija.

mcn
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Melina
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 21:37:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Melina a Private Message
Trebalo bi izbjegavati Photoshop koliko je god to moguce, za rad sa slovima. Ako imas neki vektorski program (FreeHand, CorelDraw ili kako Darko kaze QuarkXPress/InDesign) - to je sve preporucljivije jer lakse mozes baratati fontovima. Mozes ih lakse preslagivati, mijenjati, raditi korekture, poravnanja, smanjenja... sve je jednostavnije nego u Photoshopu koji je namijenjen ipak obradi slika. Ako se radi o nekim kracim formama, ok, ali za ozbiljnije poslove i puno teksta, jednostavniji ce biti takvi vektorski programi.

Podlozis lijepo na papir fotku table i preko nje upisujes. Na kraju mozes ili eksportirati finalnu verziju upisa u Photoshop pa prilijepiti na original tablu, ili printati tablu takvu kakva jest iz tog vektorskog programa.

Jos nesto: ako u Photoshopu upisujes tekst u kolor strip kojeg planiras objaviti, moras svakako pripaziti da ti slova ne idu kroz sva cetiri kolorna kanala - to jest da je crna boja iskljucivo sastava samo 100% Black (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow moraju imati vrijednost 0) - u suprotnom se moze dogoditi da je otisak tih slova pomalo mutnjikav.

A sad, koji fontovi... pa ima dosta Comic fontova koji su free i koji se mogu skinuti s weba, prosvrljaj malo po Free Fonts sajtovima, odjeljak Scripts.
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Renky
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 23:32:46  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
Ja upisujem rukom

Moze li se to nazvati RUCNI(K) FONT
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Melina
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 23:35:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Melina a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renky

Ja upisujem rukom



Pa ako to lijepo znas raditi - odlicno! To je uvijek bolje od kompjuterske uniformiranosti.
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Renky
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 23:40:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Melina

quote:
Originally posted by Renky

Ja upisujem rukom



Pa ako to lijepo znas raditi - odlicno! To je uvijek bolje od kompjuterske uniformiranosti.




Paaaaaaaaaaaa... znam, aj mi nadji posa
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Spiderman
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 00:06:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Spiderman's Homepage  Send Spiderman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Melina

Trebalo bi izbjegavati Photoshop koliko je god to moguce, za rad sa slovima. Ako imas neki vektorski program (FreeHand, CorelDraw ili kako Darko kaze QuarkXPress/InDesign) - to je sve preporucljivije jer lakse mozes baratati fontovima. Mozes ih lakse preslagivati, mijenjati, raditi korekture, poravnanja, smanjenja... sve je jednostavnije nego u Photoshopu koji je namijenjen ipak obradi slika. Ako se radi o nekim kracim formama, ok, ali za ozbiljnije poslove i puno teksta, jednostavniji ce biti takvi vektorski programi.



slazem se s Melinom, vidi se da cura zna svoj posao
nemojte upisivati slova u photoshopu, lakse je u programima koje je Melina spomenula. quark, pagemaker, corel, freehand, samo ne photoshop

quote:

Jos nesto: ako u Photoshopu upisujes tekst u kolor strip kojeg planiras objaviti, moras svakako pripaziti da ti slova ne idu kroz sva cetiri kolorna kanala - to jest da je crna boja iskljucivo sastava samo 100% Black (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow moraju imati vrijednost 0) - u suprotnom se moze dogoditi da je otisak tih slova pomalo mutnjikav.



a-ha, to se zna desiti. tiskari nisu toliko precizni da slova ne budu mutna ako tekst ima sva 4 kanala. opet to sve ovisi koliko je pive u sanduku. ak je pivce vise, onda ce i boja biti bolja, ak je pive manje onda ima sanse da se sve sje.., dobijes mutez

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A sad, koji fontovi... pa ima dosta Comic fontova koji su free i koji se mogu skinuti s weba, prosvrljaj malo po Free Fonts sajtovima, odjeljak Scripts.



ima dobrih fontova a i malo uposlis fontographer i napravis font s nasim znakovima. znam, radio, prepravio nekoliko fontova

"imao sam ideju sad ih imam dvije"

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mcn
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 01:20:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>Paaaaaaaaaaaa... znam, aj mi nadji posa

E, jesi se sjetio sad kad valjda samo joss Bonelli upisuje ruccno!

BTW; zna itko imena Bonellijevih titlassica i titlassa?

mcn
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Renky
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 01:23:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

>Paaaaaaaaaaaa... znam, aj mi nadji posa

E, jesi se sjetio sad kad valjda samo joss Bonelli upisuje ruccno!

BTW; zna itko imena Bonellijevih titlassica i titlassa?

mcn




Ma rucni rad je rucni rad.
To ti je ka' Paška cipka
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mcn
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 01:27:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>Ma rucni rad je rucni rad.

O, slazzem se, ali ti si govorio o poslu, ne umjetnosti...

mcn
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Renky
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 01:33:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Renky's Homepage  Send Renky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

>Ma rucni rad je rucni rad.

O, slazzem se, ali ti si govorio o poslu, ne umjetnosti...

mcn




As ti maloga misa Tija san ( a evo i jesan ) napisati da san pod posa mislija na bilo koji...recimo prodaja sladoleda ( onoga na kugle ) ali vidin da san sve topice veceras pritvorija u .ajebanciju pa ...

Inace meni se svidja ovaj ( komp. ) nacin upisivanja teksta. Mislim da je razlog baš što san cesto u stripovima nailazija na ocajno upisane tekstove ali ipak rukopis mi djeluje dinamicnije. Pogotovo kad se covik istrenira pa ga malo ukrasi.
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 01:38:52  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Djole a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mcn

BTW; zna itko imena Bonellijevih titlassica i titlassa?


Ono sto imam pri ruci je:

Piero Ravaiolli
Marina Sanfelice
Viviana Spreafico
Luca corda

I naravno, nezaboravna Renata Tuis!

(geek? ko?! jel ja?! ma hajte molim vas!)

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dd fan
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A imamo i:
Ileana Colombo
Diana Rocchi
Monica Husler
Riccardo Riboldi
Ah, obozavam da citam tu prvu Bonellijevu stranicu

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mcn
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Posted - 07/06/2003 : 02:19:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit mcn's Homepage  Send mcn a Private Message
>(geek? ko?! jel ja?! ma hajte molim vas!)

Fala!

mcn
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Najlaksi za rad se pokazao Page Maker, izuzetno se lako barata sa tekstom, ne moras praviti posebne oblacice i slicno, vec samo tekstualnom alatko obelezis prostor gde mislis da bude tekst, mada mislim da i InDesign tako radi. Ameri vole Adobe Ilustrator mada je i Corel sjajan sada jer kao i u Ilustratoru mozes docrtavati oblacice.
Slova treba da budu vektorski poslata na print kako nebi bili rasterizovani i postali zrnasti i ruzni u stampi.
A stripove crno bele skenirajte kao Line art to jest birate opciju Black & white, i 600 tacaka je sasvim dovoljno. Crno beli stripovi su strih materijal cak i kada poput Akire imaju raster, krupniji vidljiv golim okom, samo kod rastera se ide na vecu rezoluciju Skeniranje. Kao grejskal ili kolor je pogresno jer unistava cistocu linije, ednostavno je pretvori u rasterske tackice...
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Ako se ne varam, postoji i Omar Tuis, on je mislim uz to sto upisuje ujedno i jedan od redakcijskih crtaca, koji rade na korekciji "gotovih" tabli... Gorane?

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quote:
Originally posted by mcn


E, jesi se sjetio sad kad valjda samo joss Bonelli upisuje ruccno!




Bogme, ne upisuje samo Bonelli. Upisuje i SVET koji stampa Alana Forda.

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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 00:05:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Emir Pasanovic's Homepage  Send Emir Pasanovic a Private Message
ovo je najbolji topic u posljednje vrijeme !
hvala...

It's a good day to die...
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miha
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 00:25:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send miha a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic

ovo je najbolji topic u posljednje vrijeme !
hvala...

It's a good day to die...



Evo moram da se pridružim zahvalama...
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 10/06/2003 : 00:40:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Emir Pasanovic's Homepage  Send Emir Pasanovic a Private Message
evo ti dobra stranica sa fontovima:
www.1001fonts.com
ima poseban odjeljak za stripove i cartoons, a tu milion stvari - ja sam samo letimicno pogledo.
inace, ja sam koristio photoshop, ali namjeravam ga sad promjeniti ;))
ja, takodje volim Comic Sans MS (cini mi se), slican font sam vidio i u jednom americkom stripu (vise na ovu temu za mjesec-dva ;))

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