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dule_car
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 03:27:57
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quote: Originally posted by scanturion
Ideja je za svaku pohvalu. Ja sam skenirao Zagora u 300 dpi rezoluciji. Velicina jednog filea je od 250 do 350 kb. Skenove sam obradivao u PhotoStudio 2000. U njemu se može okretati stranica po stupnjevima tako da se može izravnati. Kad sam sve posložio koristio sam MIR (Multiple image resizer) da mi sve slike imaju identicnu dimenziju 900x13.. Za sam pregled slika koristim ACDSee koji može i jako dobro nijansirati bijelo i crno. To je to. Samo naprijed ljudi.
U jebote- nijansiranje, resize, 300 dpi... Tako govori iskusni profesionalac... Pozabavicu se s time... Ja skeniram u Photoshopu, i danas sam skeniro' par strana MrNO 746 na 150 rezoluciji i sacuvo' sam ih na 7 kvaliteti. Velicina mi e bila oko 800 Kb... Kako sad dobiješ na 300 dpi velicinu 250-300 Kb? Šta da radim...
Evo, i ja i Porter skenirali Lms 901... Koji su izgledi da se to desi? Naravno da smo svi navikli na papirnati oblik, ali to e sve u glavi... Kad su došli CD-i meni je tako bilo žao što više nece biti ploca (masovno), pa sam se naviko' na CD brzo... Kad su stigli mp3-i bilo mi e malo glupo što nemam knjižicu na kojoj pišu sve pjesme, slikice... Sad držim sve mp3 CD-e u onoj "pašteta" kutiji i boli me K---C . Glavno da ja imam dosta muzike... Eto vam metafore...
Dakle- poco' sam LMS MrNO 746 - Ritualna igra. Jedino mi fali dobra naslovna (moja je malo potrgana) pa ako neko ima i nije mu teško neka pošalje na mail.
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 07:48:07
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Scanturion, to sto si na kraju sve reskalirao tim Multiple Image Resizerom, sve si ustvari sveo na rezoluciju od 190 dpi (to jest onda si mogao isto tako i da skeniras u 190 dpi, sto bi ti oduzelo mnogo manje vremena za sam sken, jer poznato je da skeneri sa povecanjem rezolucije mnogo duze skeniraju), pa si na kraju dobio rezultat po pitanju rezolucije tek malo bolji od onoga koji smo imali na ZWS, s tim sto je Zagor za ZWS-a to radio jos mnogo detaljnije i bolje po pitanju pst-processinga image-a, tako da umesto da si dobio bolji kvalitet, dobio si losiji kvalitet od onoga koji je on imao (pogledaj na primer njegove skenove "Dijemantske klopke", pa ove price sa vampirom, pa "Crna dusa"...) |
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dule_car
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 11:57:55
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Neka neko ko' više razumije skeniranje stripova napiše par prakticnih savjeta... I šta e to "ZWS"? to e to
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Porter
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 13:22:09
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Imas sve dobre naslovne na pretrazivanju,ako ti neka treba samo je maznes Markosu. Ja sam do sada popalio jedno 50 komada 
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dule_car
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scanturion
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 16:10:03
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dp. Istina da sam mogao sve ostaviti kako je na 300 dpi. Medjutim, tada bi kolekcija Zagora izašla na 20-tak CD-a. Moje mišljenje (napomena. nisam informaticar pa možda i griješim) je da ako nešto skeniraš u nekoj rezoluciji ili fotografiraš ostaje u toj rezoluciji bez obzira na kompresiju. Da sam sve skenirao u rezoluciji 150 dpi dobio bih puno manje fileove, ali bi kvalitet samog skena bio lošiji. Npr. kad bih pokušavao povecavati sliku, ona bi bila zrnata puno više nego kod skeniranja sa 300 dpi (bez obzira na MIR). Inace, ja se pridružujem akciji skenirajmo ZS i LMS. Ja sam svoj udio u skeniranju dao (od 2100 izašlih stripova ja sam skenirao njih 340). Zato i kažem samo naprijed.
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 18:49:34
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Ma mislim da li se pridruzujes akciji da jos nesto doskeniras (osim tih 360 komada)... Po pitanju ovog o rezoluciji, u pravu si sve dotle dok nisi slike prebacio u 190 dpi. Tim potezom si izgubio ne bas svu razliku u kvalitetu u odnosu da si odmah skenirao u 190 dpi, ali si izgubio bar 90% i vise od te razlike... |
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dule_car
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 19:04:21
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Ja mislim da je covjek dao dovoljan doprinos sa tih 340 stripova. Svaka cast. Daj neka onaj ko' zna napiše par osnovnih uputstava za kvalitetno skeniranje C-b stripova: koja rezolucije, dali treba još neke dodatne opcije koristiti i tako... Pa da se svi po dogovoru po tome ravnamo i napravimo svoj standard skeniranja...
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 22:33:11
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ja vam vala neradio toliko. skaniram u 150 dpi, sasvim dovoljno za citanje, nepuni puno, a i neobradjivam scanove. radje cu scenirati dva stripa ovako, nego obradjivati svaki skan duplo duze.
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zeljko
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 22:50:50
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ajde kada sve završite pošaljite mi scanove da malo citam
Ja sam sam sebi legenda, mada drugima nisam! When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth. Those who filmed it were devoured alive by cannibals! |
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dule_car
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 23:15:08
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quote: Originally posted by Top
ja vam vala neradio toliko. skaniram u 150 dpi, sasvim dovoljno za citanje, nepuni puno, a i neobradjivam scanove. radje cu scenirati dva stripa ovako, nego obradjivati svaki skan duplo duze.
I ja sam poco' raditi baš tako...dok ne dobijem bolja uputstva...
Željo, ne budi lihvar nego se pridruži... Zajedno smo jaci...
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 23:19:19
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ok, mozda povecam na 175 dpi, max 200 hehe, al bice iskrivljeni scanovi 
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 23:41:08
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dacu ti ja svoj za LMS 4 il 7 glancer 
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Porter
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Posted - 10/08/2003 : 23:41:51
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[quote]Originally posted by dule_car
De to na "pretraživanju", nije mi jasno?
Ides na pretrazivanje,izaberes junaka u tom slucaju Mister No,a sa lijeve strane izaberes izdavaca. Onda imas da klikas,kompletan popis ili samo lista. Mozes cak i da napises ime epizode koja te interesuje i dobijes skaniranu slicicu te epizode.Kliknes na nju ona se poveca.Onda je kopiras i tvoja je. Mozes da dobijes sve skanirane slike svih junaka i sve epizode. Idi sad na pretrazivanje,treniraj pa cu te ispitati sta si naucio 
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dule_car
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 00:51:45
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Misliš na "search" na pocetnoj stranici? Tamo sam upiso' taj broj koji tražim i ništa. Možda i nema?
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 04:36:30
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Moj predlog je da skeniramo u 300 dpi, i to ne samo glavnu pricu, vec kompletan strip zajedno sa svim koricama. Tako cemo imati kakak-takav osecaj o originalnom stripu. Veca rezolucija nece zauseti znacajno vise prostora na CD-u (ljudi, pa jedan blanko CD kosta tek oko 0,25 eura). Nakon toga, sliku treba doterati u Photoshopu finim podesavanjem nivoa (Adjust levels) tako da ne ostanu sive nijanse, ali ipak ga ne terati u potpuno crbo-beli format |
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dule_car
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 08:12:20
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Šta tocno misliš pod "adjust levels" (to cu probati). Na kojoj brojci(1-10) i u kojem formatu onda dam "save"?
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 14:52:47
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odskenirajte na 300 dpi, popravite boju tj. izbijelite i nemojte snimati u rgb ili cmyk formatu nego c-b tj. grayscale. i time cete dobiti male fajlove. snimite u jpg sa kompesijom 10 eventualno 9. da kad isprintete izgleda dobro a ne zubato.
ak se sjetim jos neceg javim. ovo je nabrzinu. pitajte kaj vas zanima.
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dd fan
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 16:56:15
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ljudi, pa jedan blanko CD kosta tek oko 0,25 eura
Da, kada kupis 10000 komada u BGu  dp po kojoj ceni dobijes Verbatim kada uzimas na veliko?(u dinarima ako moze :))
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 21:02:26
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quote by ddfan: ___________________ Ne uzimam Verbatim vec jako, jako dugo, a uzimam samo princo (ne svidja mi se taj novi nazovi Verbatim) ... a dugo nisam uzimao uopste medije tako da je cena "outdated", ali popust za vecu kolicinu nije uopste znacajan, recimo, kostali su na komad 0,30 eura, na 100 kom 0,28 eura a na 3000 kom 0,26 eura (mislim da je sad cena otisla jos dosta dole, poredeci sa ovim ultra green sto ih svi koriste, ali taj ultra green je shitina koja posle godinu dana vise ne drzi snimljenu informaciju, pa nisam hteo da stedim na tome) |
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dule_car
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Posted - 11/08/2003 : 23:22:26
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quote: Originally posted by Spiderman
odskenirajte na 300 dpi, popravite boju tj. izbijelite i nemojte snimati u rgb ili cmyk formatu nego c-b tj. grayscale. i time cete dobiti male fajlove. snimite u jpg sa kompesijom 10 eventualno 9. da kad isprintete izgleda dobro a ne zubato.
ak se sjetim jos neceg javim. ovo je nabrzinu. pitajte kaj vas zanima.
"imao sam ideju sad ih imam dvije"
AUKCIJE, CHAT http://www.paucina.com/
Evo, ovo je prvi pravi upotrebni savjet koji je stigao. Napiši još ako se sjetiš. Neznam šta bi pitao, pošto se do sada nisam bavio sa "ozbiljnim" skeniranjem (kao npr. stripova ).
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 00:33:21
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ma ubili ste mi sad volju za sceniranjem, mrzim pravila....
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 02:15:56
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na http://stripovi.pondi.hr/guide.htm imas kompletno uputstvo kako skenirati strip, posebno za crno-beli posebno za kolor. Bitno je samo da dobro uradis "adjust levels", sto je tamo jasno objasnjeno (imas i crtez na kojem je jasno graficki prikazano do koje vrednosti treba podesiti gornju odnosno donju granicu "levels-a". Na kraju ga treba snimiti sa kompresijom 9 ili 10, nema potreba za gif-om kako se savetuje u uputstvu sa ovog sajta |
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Posted - 12/08/2003 : 02:46:15
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quote:
Ne uzimam Verbatim vec jako, jako dugo, a uzimam samo princo (ne svidja mi se taj novi nazovi Verbatim) ... a dugo nisam uzimao uopste medije tako da je cena "outdated", ali popust za vecu kolicinu nije uopste znacajan, recimo, kostali su na komad 0,30 eura, na 100 kom 0,28 eura a na 3000 kom 0,26 eura (mislim da je sad cena otisla jos dosta dole, poredeci sa ovim ultra green sto ih svi koriste, ali taj ultra green je shitina koja posle godinu dana vise ne drzi snimljenu informaciju, pa nisam hteo da stedim na tome)
Dakle, koji su jeftini a kvalitetni diskovi? S tim da naglasak ipak bude na kvalitetu!
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