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soulfly tribe
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 21:45:47
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Evo, pročitao jedan od albuma Gibrata u izdanju Belog puta, prilično oduševljen. Crtež magičan, scenario, pa...pomalo tanak, ali verovatno je vizuelna naracija bila primarna i ambiciozniji scenario sa zamršenijim zapletom bi samo napravio metež i narušio lakoću naracije. Tekst, dijalozi, ipak su samo tu tek toliko da potpomognu vizuelnu naraciju, kada je to neophodno. Ovo je, po meni, najbolji izdavački potez Belog puta do sada! |
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supermark
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kandraks
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Posted - 03/01/2010 : 21:34:12
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Tex Maxi ,,Zlato Juga,, Leo Pulp br.3 ,,Slucaj Crvene Magnolije,, |
Dagda, Gospodaru Noci, obasjaj svoga slugu jer on ce zlatnim srpom Druida ubrati Svetu Imelu koja otvara Vrata Nadnaravnog Svijeta...Vrata koja vode do Bogova!!! |
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soulfly tribe
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quote: Originally posted by supermark
quote: Originally posted by soulfly tribe
Maus
ja baš pročitao jučer, kakav je tebi?
po meni jedan od najvažnijih stripova u povijesti,htio sam ga pročitati već duže vrijeme ali sam čekao da ga fibra izda i stvarno mi nije žao što sam za ovakav strip dao ''bijednih'' 130 kuna. Pulitzerovu nagradu je zaslužio jer izrazito precizno i emotivno iznosi situaciju Židova u 2svj.ratu.netko je na forumu spomenuo da te emocije nisu dobro iskazane zbog jednostavnosti crteža ali baš ta jednostavnost nekako daje emocionalnu izraženost likovima,i bez obzira na to što su ljudi prikazani kao životinje strip nimalo ne gubi na ozbiljnosti i uvjerljivosti. Spiegelman je uvjerljivo priču pretočio u crtež,a jedna od najupečatljivijih scena je kada njegov otac ne želi primiti crnog stopera u auto.stvarno zapanjujuće-čovjek koji je prošao kroz sve vrste mučenja samo zbog svoje narodnosti,sad diskriminira drugu osobu zbog boje kože.na nekim dijelovima sam se zgrozio što sve čovjek može učiniti drugom čovjeku(kada Židovi oboljeli od tifusa gaze preko svojih mrtvih da bi došli do vode,ili kada se voze u onom vlaku 3 tj.bez hrane i vode i umiru jedni na drugima).ovaj strip nema samo umjetničku već i povijesnu vrijednost,zato što je dokumentacija jednog od odvratnih dijelova ljudske povijesti koje definitivno ne smijemo zaboraviti. očekivao sam puno od stripa i nije me nimalo razočarao,niti u jednom trenutku mi nije bio dosadan,niti sam osjećao zamor zbog većeg broja stranica.fenomenalno. priča:10 scenarij:10 crtež:8 naslovnica:9
kakav je tebi?
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misterx381
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supermark
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Posted - 04/01/2010 : 19:47:25
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quote: Originally posted by soulfly tribe
kakav je tebi?
znaš ono što piše iza? "rijetki su oni stripovi koji su tako dobri kako ih opisuju" ili tako nešto? e točno to
priča:10 scenarij:10 crtež:7 naslovnica:6
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kandraks
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 00:54:22
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Mister No VC br.23 ,,Smrt U Manausu,,   Zagor Extra br.180 ,,Mali Ubojice,,   |
Dagda, Gospodaru Noci, obasjaj svoga slugu jer on ce zlatnim srpom Druida ubrati Svetu Imelu koja otvara Vrata Nadnaravnog Svijeta...Vrata koja vode do Bogova!!! |
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swamp thing
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M.No Maxi: Bilo jednom u New Yorku. Poceo sam citati sinoc i dosao do 180. strane, jedva sam ga ostavio oko pola 2, sad cu nastaviti. Stvarno, jedna od prica koje ne mozes ispustiti iz ruku dok ne procitas... |
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Tex Maxi ,,Sjeverozapadni Teritorij,, Mister No SA br.54 ,,Dark City,, |
Dagda, Gospodaru Noci, obasjaj svoga slugu jer on ce zlatnim srpom Druida ubrati Svetu Imelu koja otvara Vrata Nadnaravnog Svijeta...Vrata koja vode do Bogova!!! |
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kandraks
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Tex Ludens br.95 ,,Sedmorica Ubojica,,!Ovako na prvo citanje izuzetno sam zadovoljan,epizoda koja obecava! Ovaj Marcello razvaljuje sa crtezom,ocito je da mu Tex mnogo bolje lezi od Zagora! |
Dagda, Gospodaru Noci, obasjaj svoga slugu jer on ce zlatnim srpom Druida ubrati Svetu Imelu koja otvara Vrata Nadnaravnog Svijeta...Vrata koja vode do Bogova!!! |
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Posted - 11/01/2010 : 23:39:34
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Tex Maxi br.8 ,,Blindirani Vlak,,! |
Dagda, Gospodaru Noci, obasjaj svoga slugu jer on ce zlatnim srpom Druida ubrati Svetu Imelu koja otvara Vrata Nadnaravnog Svijeta...Vrata koja vode do Bogova!!! |
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DD kolekc. #1 Sharaz-De MM gigant #10 - Anđeo zla DD LEX #63 - Maelstrom DD LU #108 - Lavirint u Bangoru Krcko - opet, opet i opet epizode iz Biser stripa. |
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Posted - 12/01/2010 : 21:42:52
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Tex Maxi ''Sjeverozapadni teritorij''. Prvi Tex kog citam poslije dobrih 15 godina... I nije los. Font je stvarno sjajan. |
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Posted - 12/01/2010 : 22:43:37
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quote: Originally posted by soulfly tribe
quote: Originally posted by supermark
quote: Originally posted by soulfly tribe
Maus
ja baš pročitao jučer, kakav je tebi?
po meni jedan od najvažnijih stripova u povijesti,htio sam ga pročitati već duže vrijeme ali sam čekao da ga fibra izda i stvarno mi nije žao što sam za ovakav strip dao ''bijednih'' 130 kuna. Pulitzerovu nagradu je zaslužio jer izrazito precizno i emotivno iznosi situaciju Židova u 2svj.ratu.netko je na forumu spomenuo da te emocije nisu dobro iskazane zbog jednostavnosti crteža ali baš ta jednostavnost nekako daje emocionalnu izraženost likovima,i bez obzira na to što su ljudi prikazani kao životinje strip nimalo ne gubi na ozbiljnosti i uvjerljivosti. Spiegelman je uvjerljivo priču pretočio u crtež,a jedna od najupečatljivijih scena je kada njegov otac ne želi primiti crnog stopera u auto.stvarno zapanjujuće-čovjek koji je prošao kroz sve vrste mučenja samo zbog svoje narodnosti,sad diskriminira drugu osobu zbog boje kože.na nekim dijelovima sam se zgrozio što sve čovjek može učiniti drugom čovjeku(kada Židovi oboljeli od tifusa gaze preko svojih mrtvih da bi došli do vode,ili kada se voze u onom vlaku 3 tj.bez hrane i vode i umiru jedni na drugima).ovaj strip nema samo umjetničku već i povijesnu vrijednost,zato što je dokumentacija jednog od odvratnih dijelova ljudske povijesti koje definitivno ne smijemo zaboraviti. očekivao sam puno od stripa i nije me nimalo razočarao,niti u jednom trenutku mi nije bio dosadan,niti sam osjećao zamor zbog većeg broja stranica.fenomenalno. priča:10 scenarij:10 crtež:8 naslovnica:9
kakav je tebi?
I ja sam pročitao Mausa prije nekog vremena. Strip je stvarno izuzetan. Ima i stvarno genijalnih rješenja. Recimo, kad priča kako se on dobro prerušio u poljaka, ali se na njegovoj ženi 'vidjelo' da je židovka, vinjeta prikazuje oba lika sa maskama svinja, ali njegovoj ženi viri mišji rep. Fantastično!
Međutim, mislim da je problem kod takvog crteža što su lica likova izuzetno jednostavna, pa se ne vide emocije koje ih obuzimaju. Sva su lica jednaka, pa nije moguće primjetiti patnju, tugu, bijes niti išta sličnoga.
Svejedno, ja bi dao 10 10 10 10, jer to nije stvar crteža, već više izbora na koji će se način priča dočarati.
Inače, ono sa crncem kojeg nije htio pustiti u auto je odlična stvar, među morem sličnih. Naime, oca si je prikazao kao objedinjenje tipičnih predrasuda o židovima: škrt, nepovjerljiv, samoljubljiv, itd. Stvarno fantastično rješenje... |
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"Od svakog treba tražiti samo ono što on može dati." "The puck is in! The home team wins!", the good ol' hockey game
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