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mr murdoc
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 15:45:01
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Kada nam neko spomene londonsku lokaciju Baker Street 221b, svi koji vole knjigu znat ce da se radi o legendarnom djelu velikog mistika i pisca Sir Arthur Conan Doyle-a. Mnogi koji nisu upoznati sa ovom tematikom, kao mnogi mladi koji jos nisu imali priliku doci u doticaj sa istom ovdje dobivaju jednu jedinstvenu sansu da na velikom platnu dozive jednu moderniziranu verziju najveceg detektiva svih vremena . Sherlock Holmes Je sasvim sigurno kamen temeljac svih poslje njega dolazecih kriminalistickih istrazitelja i naravno najveci egocentrik u svojoj bransi. Film..hmmm. Smatram da je vrlo uspjesna kombinacija dobrog humora , dobre akcije i dobrog scenarija. Robert Downey Jr. je uspio uskladiti profil jednog manicno depresivnog genija i dati mu jednu osvjezavajucu notu podobnu danasnjim shvacanjima . Jude Law je takoder dobro odigrao svoju ulogu vitalnijeg i prisutnijeg Dr. John Watsona. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle je u svojim djelima dao nazrijeti da se Sherlock Holmes koristio drogama kada se je nalazio u gabuli glede rijesenja problema . Svida mi se sto Guy Ritchie nije izbjegao tu notu samo da bi film bio moralno korektan. Takoder vrlo smjelom smatram indikaciju , da onda (kako i sada ) Londonom (novom trojom) vladaju tajna drustva . Sve u svemu , uzivao sam sinoc u premijeri .

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King Warrior
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rommel
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:14:43
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loš film meni a isto nipošto nije nova indikacija da londonom vladaju tajna društva nit je nova u sherlocku - glumački par mi je nesmisljiv pogotovo watson koji bi trebao biti stariji od holmesa...u svakom slučaju - šarena slikovnica oku ne sasvim neprivlačna ali to nije holmes kojeg znam kojeg volim i kojeg želim vidjeti |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:22:07
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Odličan, vrlo zabavan film. Najbolje mi je kada objašnjava kako će se tući u slow motion pa to onda sve izvede ubrzano.  Odlična gluma Downey-a koji ovom ulogom postaje jedan od meni omiljenih glumaca.
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:57:55
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dosadan sam vise, al sta cu nema boljeg nakon serije sa Dzeremi Bretom   
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mpavin
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PAJDO
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 18:17:40
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Meni je film skroz legao, ništa nova ali zabavno a takvih filmova fali.... |
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 18:52:21
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Fenomenalan film u smislu vrhunske zabave i akcije i svako ko kaze drugacije laže....kratko i jasno.
Moze biti da mu film nije lego al da je loš ne moze nitko reci...... |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 20:01:37
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I ja volim da čitam romane i pripovjetke o Šerloku Holmsu. ''Skandal u Bohemiji'', ''Poslednji problem'', ''Znak četvorice'' i, iznad svih, ''Baskervilski pas'' su primjeri dijela kojima se rado vraćam. Sad, kada sam vidio najavu na televiziji, bio sam prilično zbunjen. Kao prvo, većinu nas iskustvo uči da većina holivudskih ekranizacija prođe prilično loše, provlačeći se impresivnim efektima i BANG!TRAS! scenama. Ali ipak, dok sam gledao najavu filma, pomislio sam da glumci izgledaju na visini zadatka, naročito Robert Downey koji je uspio uhvatiti Holmsovu ''nit'', harizmu i specifičnost koja ga čini najvećim fiktivnim detektivom svih vremena. I, kada sam bio bolestan, majka mi je donijela tri filma. Pomalo neodlučna u pogledu mog ukusa, izabrala je ''izvikane'' naslove, koji neizbiježno plijene pažnju: ''2012'', ''Avatar'' i film o kome vas nemilosrdno davim ''Šerlok Holms''. Dok je ''2012'', oprostite na izrazu, dosada neviđeno i neopjevano sranje, ''Šerlok'' me je izuzetno prijatno iznenadio. Glumci su izvrsno odigrali svoje uloge. Sitni, svakodnevni i praktično neprimjetni događaji iz Bejker strita su tu; London 19.vijeka koji buja zločinom je takođe tu; a što je najbolje, ponuđen je jedan svjež i odličan pogled na Holmsov lik. Nekonvencionalna ličnost (koja samim tim iskače iz krute Viktorijanske ere), genije koji se često nađe na labavoj ivici ludila, hemičar, violinista, hiperaktivni momak i nepokretna baba... Da, Holms je sve to. I to je pretvoreno u takav spektakl, u takav bljesak, prekrasnu i kvalitetnu zabavu, da me je osvojio. Priča, koja je mogla biti maštovitija ako uzmemo u obzir neka od Holmsovih poluluđačkih rješenja i metoda, ipak dobiva lijep oblik, naročito sa dobrom, starom teorijom zavjere i mračnom sijenkom profesora matematike koji je otišao predaleko, Morijartijem. 8.5/10 |
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jaki
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GGG
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 00:03:13
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Ima film svoje pluseve i minuse, meni je bio sasvim OK. + Malo drukčiji Holmes i naročito Watson su dobar potez i film možemo smatrati kao nekakvog "mladog Holmsa" koji ne isključuje klasičnog (Brett). Tadašnji London, te njegova bijeda i zasranost, u kojima je radio Holmes su također odlično prikazani.
- "Velika" priča o nekakvom lordu, koji pomoču tajnih kultova i magije vrti oko prsta britanski imperij (najznačajniji predstavnik je nekakav mulac unutarnji ministar), je napravljena za priglupu američku publiku. Čudno i na silu ispada i ubacivanje Rachel McAddams kao nekakve Holmsove ljubavi. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 00:27:12
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quote: Originally posted by rommel
loš film meni a isto nipošto nije nova indikacija da londonom vladaju tajna društva nit je nova u sherlocku - glumački par mi je nesmisljiv pogotovo watson koji bi trebao biti stariji od holmesa...u svakom slučaju - šarena slikovnica oku ne sasvim neprivlačna ali to nije holmes kojeg znam kojeg volim i kojeg želim vidjeti
Potpisujem. |
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dr strangelove
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 10:05:13
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
sinoć u premijeri? zar tako kasno dođe u Švicarsku? Inače,sjajan film!
Danas se više koristi pojam "premijera" kao izvedba/predstava (ne prva), a "pretpremijera" kao prva premijera. Iako Holmes je došao kasno u Švicarsku - prije tjedan dana ili čak manje. |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 10:37:23
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Murdoc, premijera? Pa film je od početka godine, a ovo je moj post od 7.1. ove godine, znači da si duugo čekao da pogledaš filmić...  P.S. ako je stvarno tako kasno došao u Švicu, pa mislim stvarno?!
"Pogledao Sherlocka Holmesa danas... Pomalo atipični Ritchijev film (s lošim Downeyevim engleskim naglaskom ) s inkorporiranom dostatnom količinom dedukcije, akcije, tajnih društava, sotonizma i Sherlock Holmes mitologije. Nastavak zagarantiran! Malo vuče na holmesovu poznatu zavjeru i frku s Ripperom, no skoro do neraspoznatljivosti. Daleko duhovitiji od originalnog uštogljenijeg Holmesa, a mora se i priznati da Law i Downeya imaju dobru kemiju. Zabavno, povrh svega.

Sad još da vidimo novog Scottovog Robina Hooda..." |
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DeeCay
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 11:04:03
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quote: Originally posted by dr strangelove Danas se više koristi pojam "premijera" kao izvedba/predstava (ne prva), a "pretpremijera" kao prva premijera.
Ja sam više stekao dojam da je pretpremijera prikazivanje prije prvog pravog za mase prikazivanja u dotičnoj zemlji ili kinu, ili gdje već. A premijere su svejedno noviji filmovi, ako igra više od dva tjedna, teško bih ga nazvao premijerom. Ako premijera znači prva, kako onda može biti naziv generalno za izvedbu? |
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dr strangelove
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 13:23:25
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by dr strangelove Danas se više koristi pojam "premijera" kao izvedba/predstava (ne prva), a "pretpremijera" kao prva premijera.
Ja sam više stekao dojam da je pretpremijera prikazivanje prije prvog pravog za mase prikazivanja u dotičnoj zemlji ili kinu, ili gdje već. A premijere su svejedno noviji filmovi, ako igra više od dva tjedna, teško bih ga nazvao premijerom. Ako premijera znači prva, kako onda može biti naziv generalno za izvedbu?
Ja svako prikazivanje nazivam premijerom  a mislim da je pojam pretpremijera uveden baš zbog ovakvih poput mene (a premijera je u početku isključivo označavala prvu izvedbu). |
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 13:24:45
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quote: Originally posted by dr strangelove
quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by dr strangelove Danas se više koristi pojam "premijera" kao izvedba/predstava (ne prva), a "pretpremijera" kao prva premijera.
Ja sam više stekao dojam da je pretpremijera prikazivanje prije prvog pravog za mase prikazivanja u dotičnoj zemlji ili kinu, ili gdje već. A premijere su svejedno noviji filmovi, ako igra više od dva tjedna, teško bih ga nazvao premijerom. Ako premijera znači prva, kako onda može biti naziv generalno za izvedbu?
Ja svako prikazivanje nazivam premijerom  a mislim da je pojam pretpremijera uveden baš zbog ovakvih poput mene (a premijera je u početku isključivo označavala prvu izvedbu).
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SnotMan
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 13:55:15
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Gledao ga u kinu u prvom redu,odlichan.Malo me vrat zabolio.:D |
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Witchblade
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 17:57:01
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle je u svojim djelima dao nazrijeti da se Sherlock Holmes koristio drogama kada se je nalazio u gabuli glede rijesenja problema .
Pogrešno. Holmes je koristio drogu kada NIJE bio zauzet slučajem, i to kao zamjenu za rješavanje slučaja (tj. kao zamjenu za svoj uobičajeni stimulans). Evo kako on to objašnjava: "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram, or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation."
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Volio bi cuti i vasu ocjenu .
Film je sranje. Odnosno, sranje je kao ekranizacija Holmesa, a kao film je samo loš. Nadao sam se da ću vidjeti svjež (ali još uvijek kanonski) pogled na jednog od svojih omiljenih likova; nade su bile ojačane trailerom iz kojeg mi se činilo da su ovaj put naglašene neke stvari koje inače nisu općepoznate, kao što je okolnost da Holmes nije bio "detektiv iz naslonjača", nego izrazito fizički aktivan, i nije bježao od fizičkih obračuna (između ostalog bio je i poznavatelj "baritsua"). Međutim, dobili smo nekakav bućkuriš koji nema mnogo veze s onim što Holmesa čini Holmesom, ali je ime tu da privuče publiku i omogući franšizu. Ah... barem nismo vidjeli onaj kretenski deerstalker, i na tome valjda treba biti zahvalan.  Čini mi se da bi glumac koji glumi Blackwooda bio daleko bolji izbor za Holmesa. Ako ništa drugo, sliči Brettu. 
Da je mr. Madonna dao tom liku neko drugo ime, film opet ne bi bio dobar. Previše je toga nabacano, kao da se ne može odlučiti želi li biti film detekcije, ili akcijski, ili horror...
Konačno, drago mi je da se kolega ljubitelj i poznavatelj, rommel, slaže sa mnom.  |
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Mhejl
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 19:02:29
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quote: Originally posted by Witchblade
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle je u svojim djelima dao nazrijeti da se Sherlock Holmes koristio drogama kada se je nalazio u gabuli glede rijesenja problema .
Pogrešno. Holmes je koristio drogu kada NIJE bio zauzet slučajem, i to kao zamjenu za rješavanje slučaja (tj. kao zamjenu za svoj uobičajeni stimulans). Evo kako on to objašnjava: "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram, or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation.
Da, u pitanju je kokain. |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 19:08:41
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quote: Originally posted by jaki
sinoć u premijeri? zar tako kasno dođe u Švicarsku? Inače,sjajan film!
Sorry , bijah pod banom i u nemogucnosti da ovaj post postavim kada sam ga uistinu i napisao 
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 19:12:35
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quote: Originally posted by Mhejl
quote: Originally posted by Witchblade
quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle je u svojim djelima dao nazrijeti da se Sherlock Holmes koristio drogama kada se je nalazio u gabuli glede rijesenja problema .
Pogrešno. Holmes je koristio drogu kada NIJE bio zauzet slučajem, i to kao zamjenu za rješavanje slučaja (tj. kao zamjenu za svoj uobičajeni stimulans). Evo kako on to objašnjava: "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me the most abstruse cryptogram, or the most intricate analysis, and I am in my own proper atmosphere. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for mental exaltation.
Da, u pitanju je kokain.
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 19:14:39
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Drago mi je da se glede ovog topica razvila jedna sarena rasprava , to mi uistinu i bijase cilj  |
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