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Lord Vader89
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 Posted - 27/01/2010 : 17:20:19
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Originally posted by Maximuss
Opa. Pa to je vec kraljevski, ali sigurno ga netko prca negdje. Vlasnici studija, ako nitko. :)
nije, nego je prodao dusu djavolu....a bez potrebe....
jer jbg....Industral light and magic mora da se promovise na ovaj ili onaj nacin....a to sigurno ne cini tako sto pravi sto manje animiranih junaka i scena.
Piter Dzekson mu je pljunuo u lice, i drago mi je zbog toga! |
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Opti
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Posted - 29/01/2010 : 18:26:30
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Originally posted by Bob Rok
Da ne otvaram novu temu.
Kako izgledaju kada ih hranite posle ponoći, i to u 3D tehnologiji? Saznaćemo uskoro.
Holivud najavljuje rimejk hita "Gremlini", koji će biti snimljen u najnovijoj tehnologiji koja omogućuje jedinstveno bioskopsko iskustvo.
Misteriozni, slatki mogvaji koji podivljaju i pretvaraju se u gremline ako ih nahranite posle ponoći prvi put su se na filmu pojavili 1984. godine. Drugi deo filma režisera Džoa Dantea snimljen je 1990. godine.
Internet su preplavile vesti o rimejku, pa je Dante potvrdio da će uskoro snimiti i treći deo filma. Režiser je prošle godine predstavio 3D verziju svog filma "Rupa".
Novi film o gremlinima biće pravi rimejk prvog dela, a ne nastavak ili proširenje originalne priče Krisa Kolambasa.
Nove tendencije?
Tri načina kako ubiti gremlina:
Jarko svjetlo
Mikrovalka
3D tehnologija |
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübert ragungsgesetz!! |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 15:41:19
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James Cameron nije moj omiljeni reziser i pun je klisea kao pas buha te mu nikad necu oprostiti Titanic i umiranje onog pizduna Di Caprija koje je trajalo gotovo 15 minuta i natjeralo sve one koji se osjecaju zenstveno na suze ...brrrr.
James Cameron je takoder tvorac brilijantnog filma The Abyss (1989) ili pak kultnog The Terminator (1984) i jednog od najboljih nastavaka i akcionih sf ostvarenja Aliens (1986).
Filmove kao sto su Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) ili True Lies (1994) mozemo smatrati patriotskim idiotizmom, ali i vrlo zabavnim projektima .
Dakle James Cameron je reziser pun kontradikcija i pun ideja kako te kontradikcije vrlo dobro unovciti.
Bilo kako bilo , stari dobri James je ipak garant za dobru zabavu na velikom filskom platnu htio to neko priznati ili ne .
Avatar dakle i to u 3D
Prije svega moram reci da me story podsjeca na legedu Pocahontas ili kako sam frendu sinoc poslje projekcije filma rekao ," ovo je kao Pocahontas na LSD-u"
Prica je dakle jednostavna, predvidljiva i sablonska..pa opet puno dublja nego sto mislimo da jest (o tome kasnije)
Likovi su odlicno izabrani i shodno prici isprofilirani (crno bijelo, dobro i zlo i sve to uz neminovnu rosadu)
Tehnika snimanja i efekt na gledaoca su toliko intenzivni i fascinantni da ovdje samo mogu reci wooooow ovo je uistinu buducnost kinomatografije i smjernica po kojoj ce ista ta ubuduce i hoditi.
Sto je dobro kod ovakvo vrhunsko odradenog 3D filma?
Dobro je to sto vas nesto ponovo fascinira , dobro je to sto se osjecate kao dijete i doro je to sto kino dvorana odise uzdasima i smijehom, mada svi sa tim 3D naocalama izgledamo kao zadnji idioti
Sa ovom je tehnikom i u ovoj kvaliteti Fantasy film dozivio jedan kvantni skok.
Nemojmo takoder zaboraviti da 3D ideja i tehnologija seze u davne 1950-te i da postoji masu filmova snimano bas tom tehnologijom, ali nikad ovako...nikad ovako .
James Cameron je vratio mase u kina , James Cameron je uspio da se otvori diskusija o sacuvanju filma u velikim dvoranama kao dijela umjetnosti i zabave ,James Cameron je u svim ustima filmskih kriticara i sirokih masa, a to je u danasnje vrijeme piratstva i jeftinih kucnih projekcija ...velikii korak .
Putovao sa doma gradskim prijevozom posljeprojekcije filma i slusao...Avatar je bio u svim ustima...Dobro , lose, uzasno, fantasticno, glupo, fascinantno, plasticno, revolucionarno....nije bitno.
Bitno je da se o filmu opet prica i izvan placenih kriticarskih krugova i izvan povrsnih tv emisija , bitno je da je film (ma kakvog ga vi ocijenili) ponovo dosao medu ljude i napunio kino dvorane .
Avatar...svi koji ovdje citaju ili pisu znaju da samo postojanje jednog avatara moze promijeniti vasu svijest i izvuci iz vas ono za sto niste znali da ste u stanju ili jeste ali ste to potiskivali duboko u sebi .
Avatar je ono dobro i ono zlo u nama ..izbor je naravno nas.
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Emir Pasanovic
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 17:25:06
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mozda ce sad Srbija da ga tuzi, da se ugradi za postotak od megalomanske zarade, te se izvuce iz ekonomske krize |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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SnotMan
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 15:09:52
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The Messiah Complex
Readers intending to watch the movie “Avatar” should know that major events in the plot are revealed.
Every age produces its own sort of fables, and our age seems to have produced The White Messiah fable.
This is the oft-repeated story about a manly young adventurer who goes into the wilderness in search of thrills and profit. But, once there, he meets the native people and finds that they are noble and spiritual and pure. And so he emerges as their Messiah, leading them on a righteous crusade against his own rotten civilization.
Avid moviegoers will remember “A Man Called Horse,” which began to establish the pattern, and “At Play in the Fields of the Lord.” More people will have seen “Dances With Wolves” or “The Last Samurai.”
Kids have been given their own pure versions of the fable, like “Pocahontas” and “FernGully.”
It’s a pretty serviceable formula. Once a director selects the White Messiah fable, he or she doesn’t have to waste time explaining the plot because everybody knows roughly what’s going to happen.
The formula also gives movies a little socially conscious allure. Audiences like it because it is so environmentally sensitive. Academy Award voters like it because it is so multiculturally aware. Critics like it because the formula inevitably involves the loincloth-clad good guys sticking it to the military-industrial complex.
Yet of all the directors who have used versions of the White Messiah formula over the years, no one has done so with as much exuberance as James Cameron in “Avatar.”
“Avatar” is a racial fantasy par excellence. The hero is a white former Marine who is adrift in his civilization. He ends up working with a giant corporation and flies through space to help plunder the environment of a pristine planet and displace its peace-loving natives.
The peace-loving natives — compiled from a mélange of Native American, African, Vietnamese, Iraqi and other cultural fragments — are like the peace-loving natives you’ve seen in a hundred other movies. They’re tall, muscular and admirably slender. They walk around nearly naked. They are phenomenal athletes and pretty good singers and dancers.
The white guy notices that the peace-loving natives are much cooler than the greedy corporate tools and the bloodthirsty U.S. military types he came over with. He goes to live with the natives, and, in short order, he’s the most awesome member of their tribe. He has sex with their hottest babe. He learns to jump through the jungle and ride horses. It turns out that he’s even got more guts and athletic prowess than they do. He flies the big red bird that no one in generations has been able to master.
Along the way, he has his consciousness raised. The peace-loving natives are at one with nature, and even have a fiber-optic cable sticking out of their bodies that they can plug into horses and trees, which is like Horse Whispering without the wireless technology. Because they are not corrupted by things like literacy, cellphones and blockbuster movies, they have deep and tranquil souls.
The natives help the white guy discover that he, too, has a deep and tranquil soul.
The natives have hot bodies and perfect ecological sensibilities, but they are natural creatures, not history-making ones. When the military-industrial complex comes in to strip mine their homes, they need a White Messiah to lead and inspire the defense.
Our hero leaps in, with the help of a pack of dinosaurs summoned by Mother Earth. As he and his fellow freedom fighters kill wave after wave of Marines or former Marines or whatever they are, he achieves the ultimate prize: He is accepted by the natives and can spend the rest of his life in their excellent culture.
Cameron’s handling of the White Messiah fable is not the reason “Avatar” is such a huge global hit. As John Podhoretz wrote in The Weekly Standard, “Cameron has simply used these familiar bromides as shorthand to give his special-effects spectacular some resonance.” The plotline gives global audiences a chance to see American troops get killed. It offers useful hooks on which McDonald’s and other corporations can hang their tie-in campaigns.
Still, would it be totally annoying to point out that the whole White Messiah fable, especially as Cameron applies it, is kind of offensive?
It rests on the stereotype that white people are rationalist and technocratic while colonial victims are spiritual and athletic. It rests on the assumption that nonwhites need the White Messiah to lead their crusades. It rests on the assumption that illiteracy is the path to grace. It also creates a sort of two-edged cultural imperialism. Natives can either have their history shaped by cruel imperialists or benevolent ones, but either way, they are going to be supporting actors in our journey to self-admiration.
It’s just escapism, obviously, but benevolent romanticism can be just as condescending as the malevolent kind — even when you surround it with pop-up ferns and floating mountains. |
Nil sciri quisquis putet,id qudque nescit an sciri possit,quo se nil scire fatetur. |
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SnotMan
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Posted - 01/02/2010 : 15:20:06
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| A messiah complex is a state of mind in which the individual believes he/she is, or is destined to become, a savior. |
Nil sciri quisquis putet,id qudque nescit an sciri possit,quo se nil scire fatetur. |
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Emir Pasanovic
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Lord Vader89
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 00:52:45
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Ou, to je tek jebačina, ne smiješ propustiti.
Ali samo I-III, većinu vremena ih poredi s IV-VI filmovima u smislu "ovdje je Lucas slušao glas razuma, ali u Phantom Menace... bljaaaaaargh". |
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drakulloni
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 09:55:49
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Sinoc sam gledao u bioskopu. Otisao sam sa nekom predrasudom da je u pitanju jos jedan block buster-bullshit story, a izasao sam prosvetljen
Salu na stranu, ovaj film je zaista profesionalno odradjen. I u tom smislu sve pohvale. Pokriva gotovo sve zanrovske elemente (za svakog ponesto) pa i ne cudi sto je masa nagrnula u bioskope i sto je zgrnuo brdo kesa.
Na mene je najveciutisak ostavila anti-americka pozicija, koju nisam ocekivao u ovako skupom filmu. Ne bih ga preterano poredio sa kolonizacijom severne amerike, jer danas imamo sirom sveta (pa i na dobro nam poznatom Balkanu) aktuelne primere u jos izrazenijem obliku. I ekoloska strana price je sasvim OK, s obzirom da je film upucen sirokim narodnim masama, pa moze da deluje otreznjujuce na mnoge koji jos nemaju definisan stav o ocuvanju planete.
Sve u svemu, entertainment produkcija. Idite u bioskope i dobro se zabavite. A velika umna filmska ostvarenja potrazite kod nekih drugih rezisera. Evo ja gosn James-u oprastem Titanik |
Lepo je promenniti se...Jos je lepse promeniti se zauvek. |
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manhunter
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 09:58:09
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Originally posted by drakulloni
Na mene je najveciutisak ostavila anti-americka pozicija, koju nisam ocekivao u ovako skupom filmu.
Jesmo li mi gledali različite filmove možda??? |
I am legion. I do not forget. I do not forgive.
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drakulloni
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 10:23:15
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@munhunter
Verovatno je da smo gledali isti, ali ako izuzmes glavnog junaka koji je americki marinac i pomaze plemenu, i koji na kraju pobedjuje (jer narod voli pobednike, zato sto ih u ovakvoj borbi moze videti samo na filmu)*, sve ostalo ti je usmereno ka prici kako se danas ameri zeste iz vazduha sa svojim mocnim supersonicnim letelicama. Seju pustos na sve strane, jer njima su bitni samo resursi. Svoje su izcrpili oko 95%.
Ovo ti je neko moje povrsno vidjenje, da ne bi sad previse ulazili u spoljno politicku strukturu americke administracije. A kada bi se zaneo, mozda bi popio dozivotni ban. Ipak sam ovde zbog stripova na prvom mestu 
*BTW, ni ja ne mogu da zamislim da neko od Bonelijevih junaka kiksne i izgubi borbu |
Lepo je promenniti se...Jos je lepse promeniti se zauvek. |
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www2
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 10:30:19
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Originally posted by drakulloni
@munhunter
Verovatno je da smo gledali isti, ali ako izuzmes glavnog junaka koji je americki marinac i pomaze plemenu, i koji na kraju pobedjuje (jer narod voli pobednike, zato sto ih u ovakvoj borbi moze videti samo na filmu)*, sve ostalo ti je usmereno ka prici kako se danas ameri zeste iz vazduha sa svojim mocnim supersonicnim letelicama. Seju pustos na sve strane, jer njima su bitni samo resursi. Svoje su izcrpili oko 95%.
Ovo ti je neko moje povrsno vidjenje, da ne bi sad previse ulazili u spoljno politicku strukturu americke administracije. A kada bi se zaneo, mozda bi popio dozivotni ban. Ipak sam ovde zbog stripova na prvom mestu
*BTW, ni ja ne mogu da zamislim da neko od Bonelijevih junaka kiksne i izgubi borbu
Potpuno se slažem s ovim iako je mene ovo najviše podsjetilo na kolonizaciju i mrcvarenje indijanaca (mislim na sj. i južnu Ameriku)
"Štrumpfovi" su mi isti indijaneri:
- žive u skladu s prirodom
- ubijaju samo da prežive
- duhovi predaka su "glavni"
- poglavica, vrač(ara), mladi ratnici
....itd
I naravno dodju bolesni bijelci i sravne sve živo. |
The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. |
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dr strangelove
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 10:33:43
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Originally posted by www2
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Originally posted by drakulloni
@munhunter
I naravno dodju bolesni bijelci i sravne sve živo.
In a mad world only the mad are sane.
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It would not be difficult, Mein Führer. Nuclear reactors could - heh, I'm sorry, Mr. President - nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. |
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www2
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drakulloni
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 11:28:32
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In a mad world only the mad are sane.
Akira Kurosawa
Samo nisam siguran koliko je on u ovoj izjavi imao u vidu poludele soldzere sa jos ludjim machine gun-ovima. Pre ce biti da se radi o nekom kreativnom ludilu.
Da ne ispadnem neki veliki sanjar i borac za nedostizne ideale, moze ovo da se protumaci u ovom kontekstu kako si ga ti upotebio. Strong empires rules the world. I to je to.
Ipak, lepo deluje ta imaginacija koju ti pruzi neki film. Uvek mozes da tripujes kako je sve to nekako moguce  i da nesto od toga implementiras u sopstvenu Pandoru.
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Bob Rok
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 11:32:26
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
hehe
mozda ce sad Srbija da ga tuzi, da se ugradi za postotak od megalomanske zarade, te se izvuce iz ekonomske krize
U kojoj krizi? Mi nismo u krizi, bar nas tako lazu |
Ja se zovem El-Muhammed, iz plemena starih Azra, sto za ljubav zivot gube i umiru kada ljube. |
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 13:55:38
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Originally posted by Bob Rok
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
hehe
mozda ce sad Srbija da ga tuzi, da se ugradi za postotak od megalomanske zarade, te se izvuce iz ekonomske krize
U kojoj krizi? Mi nismo u krizi, bar nas tako lazu
dobro, istina, lose se izrazih.
nasi napaceni drzavni funkcioneri su u nekoj vecitoj ekonomskoj krizi.... :/ |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 13:56:53
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Originally posted by Emir Pasanovic
Ou, to je tek jebačina, ne smiješ propustiti.
Ali samo I-III, većinu vremena ih poredi s IV-VI filmovima u smislu "ovdje je Lucas slušao glas razuma, ali u Phantom Menace... bljaaaaaargh".
skoro sam se setio nekih stvari vezanih za nove SW filmove, kad su pocele one diskusije o kontroli i manipulaciji....
inace, nikako mi ne ulazi u glavu da se ljudima vise ne dopada Phantm menace nego Napad klonova |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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Emir Pasanovic
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 14:02:54
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To je kao ono kada Batman ispituje Jokera u Dark Knightu: kad te jednom udare u glavu, onda ti je udarac u druge dijelove tijela manje bolan...
Meni su podjednako loša sva tri, ali eto, Phantom Menace ću zauvijek pamtiti koliko je loš, ostala dva se ni ne sjećam šta se desilo... Mora da sam gledao u nekoj vrsti delirija. |
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 17:48:09
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Ja sam Revenge of the Sith gledao u delirijumu
I svaki put tako
da vidis kako radi |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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jimy1968
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Posted - 17/02/2010 : 06:26:08
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| suuuuuuuper film,rekao bih da ljubitelji stripova(narocito onih stripova sa americkim indijancima)bi trebalo da obozavaju ovaj film |
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jimy1968
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Emir Pasanovic
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