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cronos six
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 17:59:09
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quote: Originally posted by Magico_Vento
Donateli je tito za ove chiarolle i laurentije
donateli nam je ulepsao detinjstvo,kao i ferri,normalno.tad se strip citao u jednom dahu,sad je druga situacija.puno vise paznje posvecujem punom kadru,koji kod donatelija nikad nije ni postojao.chiarola i laurenti,kolko nekima bili losi,ipak imaju bolju tehniku,od skoro svih zagorovih crtaca(ferrija ne ubrajam u te nove).ako se nastavi sa crtacima poput vernija zagor ce totalno postati strip za predskolsku ustanovu.ovako ga bar citamo i mi malo veci.   |
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zlatan bihac
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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rgorgiev
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 18:14:50
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quote: Originally posted by zlatan bihac
quote: Originally posted by Magico_Vento
Donateli je tito za ove chiarolle i laurentije
... i njima slične....     
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so it shall be written, so it shall be done |
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okiboki
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Serbia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 18:16:44
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Laurenti mi je i pored toga sto Zagora crta kao Tarzana dobar i volim njegov crtez,ali Ciarola mi je jednostavno ocajan,ja nekad gledam u njegov crtez i uopste ne mogu da skontam sta je nacrtao.Nekad imam utisak da mu je crtez nezavrsen.To su za mene skrabotine. |
Ni živih se nisam boja, dok su bili za užasa, a nekmoli mrtvih pasa. |
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rgorgiev
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 18:19:23
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quote: Originally posted by okiboki
Laurenti mi je i pored toga sto Zagora crta kao Tarzana dobar i volim njegov crtez,ali Ciarola mi je jednostavno ocajan,ja nekad gledam u njegov crtez i uopste ne mogu da skontam sta je nacrtao.Nekad imam utisak da mu je crtez nezavrsen.To su za mene skrabotine.
Ferri i Donatelli, i ...... ne pada mi nista (niko) drugo/i na pamet. |
so it shall be written, so it shall be done |
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Obi-wan
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 18:39:32
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
Problem je što njihov Zagor nekako ispadne Tarzan. Gubi se onaj osjaćaj da smo tu sa starim znancem.
Kojim starim znancem? Nije ovo 1995 (kad sam 'teo da umrem otvorivsi Nestalog istrazivaca) pa da se tako prica.
Pa valjda što su ga crtali Feri, Donateli i Binjoti na kojeg je većina navikla... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Curunir
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 19:19:21
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
Problem je što njihov Zagor nekako ispadne Tarzan. Gubi se onaj osjaćaj da smo tu sa starim znancem.
pa zagor jest odjeveni tarzan sa sekircetom svi smo kao klinci obozavali ferrija (koji je tad bio i vrlo dobar opcenito!) i donatellija, ali ako kad odrastes ne mozes uociti neke stvari, e jbga onda... anyway, zagor je danas strip na tako niskim granama da je smijesna svaka rasprava, ne znam zasto me uvijek uvuku a i ti se drzi amera |
Ne upuštajte se u raspravu s budalama, spustit ce vas na svoju razinu, a potom vas zatuci iskustvom. |
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King Warrior
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wolland
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
206 Posts
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 19:54:42
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
dobar topic, za sve zagoromrzce, da se malo ispucaju 
Izgleda da se pretvori u to, ali nisam tako zamislio... |
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Magico_Vento
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 20:27:33
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quote: Originally posted by Curunir
quote: Originally posted by Magico_Vento
Donateli je tito za ove chiarolle i laurentije
mislis da je to svima dobar uzor? znam mnoge koji ce iz ovoga zakljuciti da je donatelli najgori od svih. zapravo, nisu daleko od istine... srecom po njega, ovi "novi" tipa verni, sedioli i sl. su tu da pokazu kako moze i mnogo gore... a laurenti i chiarolla su jedini istinski crtaci u zagorovom staffu... plus stari ferri uza sve mane...
Svako ima svoje misljenje a moje je da chiarolla,laurenti i jos nekoliko njih crtaju lika koji nije Zagor!Pokojni Donateli ima jednostavan crtez,nista pretjerano ali je ugodno za citati naravno 100 ljudi,100 cudi,100 zena 200 sisa  |
Nemam potpis... |
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supermark
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 20:37:24
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quote: Originally posted by okiboki
quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by wele
quote: Originally posted by kerber
ili..Kakvo je ovo bice sa kandzama???

koji je ovo crtac?zagoru hvali prstiju       
'Ben ti! Ispast će da se zajebavan ali i ovo je solidno. Malo vuče na španjolsku školu. Dobar kadar.
I ne, ne fali prstiju.
Ovo mora da je Chiarola,ne znam da li jos neko moze tako da upropasti Zagora,ako je uopste Zagor,jer meni ni jedan njegov Zagor ne lici na sebe.
ovo je chiarolla, a ovaj crtez mi je i vise nego solidan |
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Kit Carson
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Serbia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 21:01:51
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I meni je vise nego solidan, ali su kategorije:
solidan dobar vrlo dobar odlican
i Ferri 
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Ubrzajte Texa u koloru na 2 mesecno! |
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okiboki
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Serbia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 21:04:57
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quote: Originally posted by Kit Carson
I meni je vise nego solidan, ali su kategorije:
solidan dobar vrlo dobar odlican
i Ferri 
  
E bas tako. |
Ni živih se nisam boja, dok su bili za užasa, a nekmoli mrtvih pasa. |
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kasper
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 21:21:13
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
Pa valjda što su ga crtali Feri, Donateli i Binjoti na kojeg je većina navikla...
Sada je i B. usao u igru, lepo lepo. Koja vecina? Prosta, slozena, odokativna? |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 21:36:43
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quote: Originally posted by kasper
quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
Pa valjda što su ga crtali Feri, Donateli i Binjoti na kojeg je većina navikla...
Sada je i B. usao u igru, lepo lepo. Koja vecina? Prosta, slozena, odokativna?
Nemoj da se srdiš. Nije Zagor za žestoke rasprave.  |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
Edited by - Obi-wan on 11/02/2010 21:38:26 |
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tiberije
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USA
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 22:19:08
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Ja ne volim Vernija, kopira Ferrija a crtez mu je toliko statican da ponekad uzmem da citam Paukovu mrezu pred spavanje da bih se uspavao (bolje je nego brojanje ovaca) i da onaj D'Archangelo je katastrofa. E sada i ostali imaju svojih "svetlih trenutaka", ali opet nacrtali su i neke dobre epizode (Chariolla, Gamba, Sedioli...) |
Trazim ritam u koraku, usporavim ti hod |
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kerber
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Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 22:29:59
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quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by kerber
Sta da se prisecas,idi redom sve iz SD i VC,preskoci ferijeve price i to je to. A ovde se moze postaviti i jedno pitanje. Ko je ovaj covek?

Koja je ovo epizoda? Odnosno di i u kojem broju objavljeno. Dobro, izgleda, volija bi prilistat.
Da dobro izgleda,ali ja ne prepoznajem ovog lika,nema orao na grudima i ne poznajem ga.. inace ti slobodno prelistaj ovaj strip,to je SD br.53 - Otocka skupina,ali pazi se,naletices i na ovakvog zagora   

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rgorgiev
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 22:44:33
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quote: Originally posted by kerber
quote: Originally posted by Renky
quote: Originally posted by kerber
Sta da se prisecas,idi redom sve iz SD i VC,preskoci ferijeve price i to je to. A ovde se moze postaviti i jedno pitanje. Ko je ovaj covek?

Koja je ovo epizoda? Odnosno di i u kojem broju objavljeno. Dobro, izgleda, volija bi prilistat.
Da dobro izgleda,ali ja ne prepoznajem ovog lika,nema orao na grudima i ne poznajem ga.. inace ti slobodno prelistaj ovaj strip,to je SD br.53 - Otocka skupina,ali pazi se,naletices i na ovakvog zagora   

Strasno, upravo zbog toga i nemam procitano skoro nijednog SD i LU  |
so it shall be written, so it shall be done |
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:08:01
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quote: Originally posted by rgorgiev
Strasno, upravo zbog toga i nemam procitano skoro nijednog SD i LU 
Osobno mislim da Zagor nije nikada bolje izgledao nego tada. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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wele
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Montenegro
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:08:48
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zanimljivo da skoro niko ne spominje della monicu.on je svijet izmislio za sve ostale.a donatelijev crtez(ima nekoliko izuzetaka,npr sandy river,zelena opasnost,tvrdjava na moru)cini zagora stripom za djecu.mislim,sporedni likovi izgledaju kao da su izasli iz alan forda.a laurenti je solidan.naslovnice koje on radi za vc kolekcionarskog zagora su duplo bolje od ferrijevih za iste epizode |
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kreŠa
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Serbia
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wele
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Montenegro
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:09:48
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by rgorgiev
Strasno, upravo zbog toga i nemam procitano skoro nijednog SD i LU 
Osobno mislim da Zagor nije nikada bolje izgledao nego tada.
slazem se.tada je i marcello crtao,pravi umjetnik |
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kerber
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Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:21:19
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by rgorgiev
Strasno, upravo zbog toga i nemam procitano skoro nijednog SD i LU 
Osobno mislim da Zagor nije nikada bolje izgledao nego tada.
A na ovu sliku,i ovde izgleda dobro?? |
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Mr. Bushido
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:23:55
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quote: Originally posted by kerber
quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
quote: Originally posted by rgorgiev
Strasno, upravo zbog toga i nemam procitano skoro nijednog SD i LU 
Osobno mislim da Zagor nije nikada bolje izgledao nego tada.
A na ovu sliku,i ovde izgleda dobro??
Nego što. Šta joj fali? |
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Archy
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Croatia
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 23:24:59
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Pogledajmo istini u oči. Većinu starih crtača volimo jer smo se jednostavno navili na njih. Ove 'nove' ne volimo, jer su nam novi i nepoznati.
Donatelli je imao dobre periode kad ga se moglo čitati i kad je taj crtež bio nešto. Nakon nekog vremena pretvorio je svoj crtež u karikaturu i grotesku, jer su mu likovi svi bili isti, zubati, kosmati, crtež prejednostavan, valjda je vinjete završavao za 10-15 minuta.
Čak i kad Ferrija pogledamo, daleko je ovaj današnji Ferri od onoga iz zlatnog perioda. Ako se usporede njegovi raniji radovi sa ovim zadnjim koji je izašao kod nas (piramide krvi i te gluposti), vidljiv je pad. Crta puno brže, manje vodi računa o detaljima, nema neku stabilnost, već crtež varira od jako dobrih prizora do onih slabijih.
Od ovih novijih crtača - laurenti, torriceli dela monica i ekipa - točno se vidi razlika između njih i ovih još novijih - sedioli, verni itd. Nekako imam osjećaj da su ovi prvi pravi umjetnici - slikari, učeni ljudi koji su učili crtati i imaju kilometara u kistovima, dok ovi drugi nekako su priučeni. Čovjek bi rekao da crtaju zagora jer im je on idol iz mladosti, ali nemaju iskustva i znanja. recimo, sedioli je neke svoje stripove totalno dječački nacrtao. zagor mu još i liči na nešto, ali neki su prizori neprobavljivi.
od stare škole definitivno najsvestraniji je bio bignotti, jer je crtao u tri-četiri serijala i u svima je bio vrlo uspješan - zagor, mister no, MM (to je ono di sam ga vidio). Ova ostala dvojca su nekako se našla u zagoru i to je to. u mister nou su obojca bili teška propast, a drugdje ih nisam ni vidio. |
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