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Markos
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 13:09:49
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quote: Originally posted by Davor2403
Ovo bi bilo zanimljivo, i ja sam za ovo.
Ali mislim da bi bilo jos bolje da se promijeni ocjenivanje svakog pojedinog stripa, dakle da se naprave ocjene kao i na imdb-u da se svaki strip moze ocijeniti bez obzira ima li recenziju ili ne, a ako i ima da se ocjene ostavljaju zasebno a ne kao komentari.. Jer to bi bilo po meni puno preglednije i pomoglo bi mnogima koji tek nesto zele citati ili nabaviti, jednostavno vidi npr. glasalo 50 ljudi, prosjecna ocjena 8 i ljepota, a nek ostane i dalje opcija da se napise komentar, naravno tko zeli! ;)
Evo, da se vidi da radim na ovome, dodano je komentiranje svakog stripa pojedinačno.
Sljedeći korak je dodavanje ocjena/zvjezdica.
A onda ću dodati i "moja kolekcija" funkcionalnost... |
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King Warrior
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Markos
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 13:52:29
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Pa, ako sam dobro izračunao, vise od 75% stripova nije recenzirano i pitanje kad će biti. Uostalom, jedno ne isključuje drugo. |
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makikatalinic
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King Warrior
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:00:53
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Ne znam. Sa ovim recenzije gube na vaznosti, a i komentare ce rijetko ko ostavljati ispod naslovnice i onda na recenziji. Kako bilo, ovo je za mene degradiranje recenzija. Te ocjene/zvjezdice bez komenatara jos i imaju smisla, ali sami komentari nemaju bas, barem ne sa nasom strukturom sajta gdje postoji mogucnost recenzija i komentarisanja istih... |
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Deers
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:08:26
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Ne gube baš recenzije s tim puno na važnosti. Pa Zagor ima određenu priču u bezbroj izdanja i što to bolje objedinjuje od recenzije. Možda gubi komentiranje pojedinog broje nečega na forumu ali ne mislim da će imat nekog velikog utjecaja, barem za sada. Iskreno ne znam s kojom svrhom da tu mogućnost koristim ali vrijeme će pokazat. Čekamo zvjezdice i "moju kolekciju"  |
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Markos
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:13:19
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A gle, isto tako možeš reći da s forumom recenzije gube na važnosti, jer onaj tko je dao komentar o nekom stripu na forumu neće opet ostaviti komentar i na sajtu, itd itd. Ne mislim da je ovo degradiranje recenzija, nego jednostavno prilika da ljudi komentiraju stripove koji nisu recenzirani. |
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acestroke
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:19:02
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quote: Originally posted by Markos prilika da ljudi komentiraju stripove koji nisu recenzirani.
hmm... ok, ovo nije lose. Ja sam za ovo, iako smatram da ono sto je King reko isto tako ima puno smisla... ako stvarno imamo toliko puno stripva bez recenzija, trebace dosta vremena da se sve to recenzira, dok u medjuvremenu ljudi mogu komentirat na to. |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:21:24
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Ne mislim da je ovo degradiranje recenzija, nego jednostavno prilika da ljudi komentiraju stripove koji nisu recenzirani.
Isto tako nema vise potrebe recenzirati stripove koji nisu recenzirani. U komentare se moze strpati cijeli tekst koji bi isao u recenziju.
Cim sam vidio ovaj prijedlog pretpostavljao sam da bi to moglo biti suvisno na jednom sajtu kao sto je nas, ali sam ipak sacekao realizaciju prije nego sto sam ostavio komentar. Da nema mogucnost recenzija i ostavljanja komentara na njima, ovaj potez bi bio fenomenalan, ovako, ne vidim svrhu.
Zvjezdice i "moja kolekcija" su s druge strane pozitivna novost.
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Markos
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:25:11
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Pa netko tko želi napisati recenziju, sigurno neće odustati zato što može ostaviti komentar na stranicu o stripu. Recenzija ipak ima puno veću težinu od komentara.
I opet ponavljam, u bazi trenutno ima 27200 stripova , a 1200 recenzija... |
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:28:31
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Evo, da se vidi da radim na ovome, dodano je komentiranje svakog stripa pojedinačno.
Sljedeći korak je dodavanje ocjena/zvjezdica.
A onda ću dodati i "moja kolekcija" funkcionalnost...
Gde je to? Usao sam na Home i ulogovao se na moj stripovi,com i ne vidim? A mislim da je to odlicna opcija... |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:34:18
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Pa netko tko želi napisati recenziju, sigurno neće odustati zato što može ostaviti komentar na stranicu o stripu.
Evo ja, jedan od najproduktivnijih recenzenata sajta, upravo razmisljam sta i kako dalje... Cekam da vidim DeeCayov stav, sta on misli o ovome. On je ipak covjek sa najvise napisanih recenzija. |
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King Warrior
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acestroke
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:38:01
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quote: Originally posted by Markos
Pa klikneš na link bilo kojeg stripa...
Sad sam probo, vidim... ovo je dobra ideja, ali na zalost, King je u pravu: ako je ovako lako komentirat svaki strip, sta ce onda iko recenzirat? Interesuje me kakav rezultat ce ovo imat na buduce recenzije; hoce li ih ljudi uopste vise pisati, koliko ce biti motivirani da ih pisu, itd. |
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Deers
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:44:22
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quote: Originally posted by King Warrior
quote: Originally posted by Markos
Ne mislim da je ovo degradiranje recenzija, nego jednostavno prilika da ljudi komentiraju stripove koji nisu recenzirani.
Isto tako nema vise potrebe recenzirati stripove koji nisu recenzirani. U komentare se moze strpati cijeli tekst koji bi isao u recenziju.
Cim sam vidio ovaj prijedlog pretpostavljao sam da bi to moglo biti suvisno na jednom sajtu kao sto je nas, ali sam ipak sacekao realizaciju prije nego sto sam ostavio komentar. Da nema mogucnost recenzija i ostavljanja komentara na njima, ovaj potez bi bio fenomenalan, ovako, ne vidim svrhu.
Zvjezdice i "moja kolekcija" su s druge strane pozitivna novost.
joj, paranoiziraš ko da je to u najmanju ruku napad ne tebe osobno
evo Markos ti je sve lijepo odgovorio, slažem da možda malo gube recenzije na važnosti ali isto tako recenziranje priča samo da budu recenzirane se ruži kvaliteta recenzija što je gore od ovoga
quote: Originally posted by Markos
A moguće korisne situacije su npr. komentiranje revija/magazina (stripoteka, comic art itd itd), gdje se komentira cijeli broj, a ne samo određena epizoda određenog junaka.
Ili se može staviti naglasak na samo izdanje, nevezano za priču, scenarij...
Npr. ovakva izdanja: http://www.stripovi.com/enciklopedija/strip/mister-no-mn-vcbmn-1-mister-no-1/30436/0/
evo viš nisam se toga sjetio, ali da imaš pravo. pitanje jel postoji mogućnost da se prate ti komentari na pojedina izdanja? u smislu da postoji lista kao kod zadnje komentirane recenzije? |
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Markos
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:47:00
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Komentar je par rečenica, a recenzija poduzi tekst sa slikama, zanimljivostima itd itd. To nikako nisu iste stvari. Zaista ne vidim razloga zašto bi netko tko piše recenzije odustao od pisanja, jer eto sad može staviti komentar na stranici o stripu?! |
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:49:12
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quote: Originally posted by Deers evo viš nisam se toga sjetio, ali da imaš pravo. pitanje jel postoji mogućnost da se prate ti komentari na pojedina izdanja? u smislu da postoji lista kao kod zadnje komentirane recenzije?
To još nisam dodao, ali ću svakako dodati. Ako ti komentari ostanu, vidjet ću. Nisam očekivao da će ljudi biti protiv... |
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:56:46
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Onaj ko zeli da pise, bavi se recenzijama, verovatno primarno to radi iz licnog zadovoljstva (bar ja tako razmisljam), a naravno i da bi dao neki doprinos sajtu... Ali nije po meni zavistan od toga da li ce neko da ih komentarise ili ne. Mozda neko cita a nema potrebu da ostavlja komentar? Tako da ne vidim zasto bi neko bio demotivsan za dalje pisanje... |
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King Warrior
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 14:57:14
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
joj, paranoiziraš ko da je to u najmanju ruku napad ne tebe osobno
Ne pretjeruj. Fino sam objasnio sta i kako. |
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 21:38:51
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quote: Originally posted by Markos I opet ponavljam, u bazi trenutno ima 27200 stripova , a 1200 recenzija...
Brojevi su na strani ovog noviteta. Ovo je sajt o stripovima a velik dio njih zjapi bez ikakvih informacija (osim naslovnice). Komentiranjem otvaramo mogućnost da netko dobije informaciju o stripu a da se ne čeka hoće li se netko sjetiti napisati recenziju. Ali vidjet ćemo hoće li to funkcionirati. Budu li komentari "Ferri je car" "AHYAAAAAK" "Teško sranje!" i slično onda nismo dobili ništa. Nadam se da će ljudi napisati svoje mišljenje u par suvislih rečenica i da neće biti hrpa spamerskih doskočica.
Ne znam kako će se ovo odraziti na recenzije. Vjerujem da recenzije imaju svoju publiku i da je tim ljudima jednostavno gušt to čitati. Oni će to nastaviti raditi po svom bez obzira na komentare. Jedino što je malo ružno je ta rasijanost na sve strane. Bilo bi idealno kada bi se ovi komentari mogli pregledno ukomponirati s recenzijama. To bi bila prava stvar.
King je malo demoraliziran i ja ga kužim. Zadnje vrijeme se jako trudi oko tih recenzija i sada mu je bed da sav taj trud ne odleti u neki manje bitan plan. Zapitao se ima li smisla nastavljati pisati recenzije s tolikom voljom. E pa sad njemu i drugim recenzantima koje isto to muči treba kazati - imate svoju publiku, ljude koji se vesele vašim recenzijama, koji su našli dodirne točke s vašim razmišljanjima i oni će vaše tekstove uvijek rado čitati. Zbog njih se treba nastaviti s pisanjem kao da se ništa nije dogodilo. |
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Deers
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Posted - 19/03/2011 : 21:52:42
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Grofica je potpuno u pravu. I tako samo zagorove recenzije imaju 10+ komentara. Ostali koji inače komentiraju i čitaju recenzije čitat će i dalje. |
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