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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 00:46:28
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Sviđaju 
Mislio sam napravit listu ali jednostavno se ne mogu odlučit. Mora da Sclavi stvarno mrzi Dylana kad ga je ubio u svakom broju. Doduše razumijem i one koji smatraju da imaju previše pametovanja ali to je vjerojatno produkt plitkih priča koje svaki mjesec čitamo. |
"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam." |
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Sarghan
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Croatia
1829 Posts
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 00:53:08
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
Konačno pročitao Martija i sve ove zadnje Sclavijeve epizode. mada sam tražio nisam pronašao da je netko spomenuo posvetu Morgani u sceni iz Martija kad Džulijan nosi svoju majku u grob koja naravno samo potvrđuje sve ono što se pisalo 
Što se tiče Martija, ne znam je li ovo isto bilo spomenuto...
Tijekom čitanja mi se činilo kako je Marty ustvari sam Sclavi i kako je taj Džulijan ustvari Sclavijeva "ličnost" koja je ostvarivala sav taj užaš. Nešto kao... Dylan je Sclavijeva dobra strana ( kao što piše neš slično i u uvodniku tog broja ) dok je Džulijan neki Sclavijev alter ego koji bi izmišljao sav taj užas ( kao što ga je i Sclavi stvarao u svojim scenarijima za Dylana. A Dylanom bi pobijeđivao sav taj užas u svim tim pričama). Isto tako, Sclavi voli životinje -->> Marty voli psa skitnicu (Kuco, ak se ne varam). I onda na kraju, kada Marti umre, jedini tko su došli na sprovod su Dylan, Džulijan i kuco (kao, njegovi "sinovi", jel). I tog trena kada povorka odnosi lijes, Džulijan nestaje čime ustvari nestaje i ta Sclavijeva loša strana koja je stvarala sve te užase ( ilitiga, više neće pisati scenarije za Dylana) dok Dylan i kuco i dalje nastavljaju sa životom ( kroz pero drugih autora u SBE-u). Ukratko, mislim da je Sclavi ovime htio reći da će Dylan i dalje izlaziti kada njega više ne bude bilo. Jedina rupa u ovoj teoriji bi bila zašto onda nije spomenuo svoju ženu s kojom je i nastala ta epizoda, zašto onda ni nje nije bilo na sprovodu. |
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Deers
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Croatia
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Sarghan
stripovi.com suradnik
   

Croatia
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 01:27:39
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Pročitah sve to, no nekako mi baš ni nije jasna ta usporedba da je Džulijan --> Dylan. Ako je već Sclavi kroz Dylana na neki način "pobjeđivao" sav taj užas u sebi svih tih godina dok ga je pisao (iznosi u samom stripu sav taj užas kojeg bi preko Dylanovog lika više manje uvijek pobijedi), onda mi nekak čudno da Džulijan "stvara" sav taj užas prema okolnjima u stripu. No da, ovo bi to ovome što piše u tom topicu kao trebala biti neka inverzija. Ovo za Christinu je zanimljivo, no nekak mi ne drži vodu. Mislim da je sama činjenica što je njen potpis na tom stripu(kao co-autor) da je ona stigla do samog kraja (napisala ga u stvarnosti zajedno s njime do kraja) te da je na taj neki način prisutna na kraju stripa ( a to je ujedno i razlog zbog koje je nema prikazane u stripu pošto je nikada prije nije ni prikazivao), dok Sclavi preko Martija, naravno umire ( u stripu). Valjda ju je toliko cijenio da je nikada nije htio staviti u užas svog rada pa je prisutna u njemu "iz stvarnost" kao co-autor. No dobro, ovo sada ovak više razmišljam na glas i napamet govorim na temelju onog čega se sjećam. Trebao bih još jednom pročitat Martija da se prisjetim svega.  |
Edited by - Sarghan on 03/06/2011 01:31:55 |
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dzoni
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Serbia
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dzoni
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karven
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Serbia
1871 Posts
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 21:19:24
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All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands. |
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morrison
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Serbia
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Posted - 03/06/2011 : 21:46:18
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Nije losa prica, mada mi se cini kao da je neka starija epizoda...reciklirana. Ako nista drugo, malo besmislenog nasilja dobro dodje. |
There ain't no grave gonna hold my body down. |
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Checee
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China
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 02:52:42
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Ovo poslednje cetvrtkovsko je toliko ocajno, smorno, dosadno da se coveku govna prijedu. Glupe li epizode. Ode Dilan nacisto u qrac. |
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desolator5
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 12:25:43
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quote: Originally posted by morrison
Nije losa prica, mada mi se cini kao da je neka starija epizoda...reciklirana. Ako nista drugo, malo besmislenog nasilja dobro dodje.
Uze mi reci iz usta : malo besmislenog nasilja dobro dodje :D |
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pravedni
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Serbia
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Combatrock
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Serbia
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Posted - 06/06/2011 : 22:14:11
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imam predlog neka idu ovi regularci na 4 meseca a neka ide kolekcionarsko izdanje 6 knjiga godisnje... ova salivenova cudovista su stvarno cudoviste od stripa... |
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Ultras
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Serbia
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grofica Varga
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Ultras
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docA
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kasper
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Posted - 27/06/2011 : 13:56:19
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quote: Originally posted by docA
U tehnickom smislu sjebase ovu 13-icu. Jos gore od prve knjige. Los uvez i bez utisnutog zljeba.
Zapala ti losa. |
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docA
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Posted - 27/06/2011 : 14:02:18
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Pa jbg, nisam imao prilike da biram, porucio sam u grafart... Al' nemoguce da mi zapala losa, ono bas poravnjano...prethodne su bas bile ok...a i uvez zaista jadan... |
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Raspucin
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Barbados
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Posted - 27/06/2011 : 14:49:02
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Manjkavosti ovog izdanja su los uvez, tvrde korice, dizajn boka-hrpta, dizajn fonta u tekstovima. Opet sami tekstovi su najvrednija stvar kod kolekcionarskog Dilana. Autori ce nekada moci i da ih objave kao posebnu knjigu eseja o Dilau Dogu. Kupljena i 13. Idemo dalje. |
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Ultras
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/06/2011 : 15:51:48
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quote: Originally posted by docA
Pa jbg, nisam imao prilike da biram, porucio sam u grafart... Al' nemoguce da mi zapala losa, ono bas poravnjano...prethodne su bas bile ok...a i uvez zaista jadan...
Au Jel moguće da ima i takvih knjiga ?
U Kragujevcu su po Trafikama sve knjige OK. Uzimao sam više komada za neke drugare i sve su kako treba 
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pravedni
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Serbia
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cronos six
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Serbia
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pravedni
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cronos six
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Serbia
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Posted - 27/06/2011 : 17:04:45
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quote: Originally posted by pravedni
I prevod,ali i fini tekstualni dodaci koji su veliki plus ovom izdanju!
moguce i to. ja kupujem ludens extra zbog naslovnica u boji,a strip i ne citam. |
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