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DeeCay
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Croatia
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 19:56:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Au, pa to se održava u mojoj knjižnici... Preko puta Importannea.
Naravno da se vidimo.

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 20:57:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Luca_Torelli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Samo da napomenem kako strip polako ulazi u akademske vode, makar kao diplomski rad. Naime, moj drugi (a nadam se i posljednji) diplomski rad zove se "Strip kao dio književnosti i knjižničnog fonda".

nebesa nisu humana... (Hrabal)

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paro
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 16:34:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ipak neću stić večeras, javite kako je bilo..

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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fikus
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 16:38:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Eto i mene

always progressive, never conventional!
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Spiderman
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 17:11:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Spiderman's Homepage  Send Spiderman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

Ipak neću stić večeras, javite kako je bilo..



neki komadi u igri ha? phi


Moj strip
Moje aukcije
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paro
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 17:15:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spiderman

quote:
Originally posted by paro

Ipak neću stić večeras, javite kako je bilo..



neki komadi u igri ha? phi



Da barem...obiteljske gluparije koje su trebale past sutra..jbg

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mladjo
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 22:34:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mladjo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja isto nisam stigao, 'ajmo vi koji ste bili, kak je to zgledalo?

COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT
an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero

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DeeCay
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 22:53:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da, da, samo se izvlačite...

Prava mala kulturna manifestacija o kojoj se pričalo o stanju stripa u Hrvatskoj (i regionu)... I to u optimističnom tonu! Inače, bila je puna sobica ljudi, što je očito dobar znak. Šteta što je lošije vrijeme vani pa sam morao zgibati ranije, dalek je još put do Kraljevca.

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."
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fikus
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 23:34:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Meni je bilo interesantno, pogotovo kada je na red došao Zagor (industrijski strip - kaže Vlado). Inače, da, vrlo optimistično. Kratko je trajalo, ali nije ni moglo kad publika nije imala puno pitanja.
Možda da je moderator bio malo aktivniji (i glasniji). Bilo je puno ljudi ali od njih bar 20% su bili novinari.

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Pavel
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 01:27:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Pavel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fikus

Meni je bilo interesantno, pogotovo kada je na red došao Zagor (industrijski strip - kaže Vlado). Inače, da, vrlo optimistično. Kratko je trajalo, ali nije ni moglo kad publika nije imala puno pitanja.
Možda da je moderator bio malo aktivniji (i glasniji). Bilo je puno ljudi ali od njih bar 20% su bili novinari.



Što bi trebalo značiti industrijski strip?
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Spiderman
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 08:58:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Spiderman's Homepage  Send Spiderman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pavel
Što bi trebalo značiti industrijski strip?



Zagor i kompanija (Bonelli) su industrijski strip


Moj strip
Moje aukcije

Edited by - Spiderman on 04/02/2012 08:58:56
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DeeCay
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 12:07:14  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pavel
Što bi trebalo značiti industrijski strip?



Pa, strip na traci, produkt za mase na mjesečnoj bazi, ne autorsko djelo objavljeno za gušt onoga tko ga radi, umjetnički izražaj, tako nekako ga je Šagadin definirao. Vidim da se "umjetnici" gnušaju takvih strip proizvoda, no činjenica je da zbog toga i ovo ovdje tržište opstaje. Ja sam prije svega umjereni konzument svega stripovskoga, bez predrasuda i osuđivanja nekoga i nečega... Mora postojati izbor, bio to Zagor, neki Crumbov lik, Jodorowsky ili Kordej.

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selanne
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 12:15:17  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Da opstanu samo takvi "neindustrijski", veliko je pitanje u kojem bi se opsegu prodavali.

Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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fikus
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 12:49:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Slažem se, da nema ljudi koji kupuju nebi ih radili.Osobno ne volim Bonelli, ali nemam ništa protiv. Jednostavno, ljudima treba pružiti izbor, pa ko voli nek izvoli.

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paro
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 12:53:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fikus

Slažem se, da nema ljudi koji kupuju nebi ih radili.Osobno ne volim Bonelli, ali nemam ništa protiv. Jednostavno, ljudima treba pružiti izbor, pa ko voli nek izvoli.



Industrijski strip danas, bio on Marvel ili Bonelli, se prodaje uglavnom zbog neke kolekcionarske strasti..

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fikus
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 13:00:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Istina

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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 22:50:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja ću prvi priznati, mislim da je industrijski/korporativni strip nužno zlo, sredstvo bez kojih bi neke stripovske scene teško opstale.

Međutim, daleko od toga da u industrijskom stripu fali mašte, inovativnosti i originalnosti.

Tko tvrdi suprotno, taj nikad nije pročitao Millerovog Daredevila, Simonsonove Thora, Fantastic Four i Oriona, Morrisonove Doom Patrol, Animal Mana, JLA i New X-Men, Ennisovog Punishera i još stotinu drugih primjera.

Na kraju krajeva, jedan od najutjecajnijih i najhvaljenijih stripova u proteklih 30 godina objavljen je u serijalu G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, serijalu koji je baziran na liniji igračaka.

Kvalitetan i motiviran autor će i s tuđim likovima i konceptima znati napraviti dobar i inovativan strip.

Toliko o tome.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Raven84
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 12:49:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raven84 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spidey, hoces li staviti slike s tribine na net?

Ima nešto u njemu proslijedeno od nepoznate majke i propala oca na sina. Kaljeno savješcu. Brušeno disciplinom.
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andjusticeforall
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 12:55:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send andjusticeforall a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Šta kaže Duc, jel gotova "Cigla"?

https://hrvatskiautorskistrip.blogspot.com/
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Raven84
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 12:58:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Raven84 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako misliš na njegov animirani film, još malo i gotovo. Ako ne misliš, onda nemam pojma. :)

Ima nešto u njemu proslijedeno od nepoznate majke i propala oca na sina. Kaljeno savješcu. Brušeno disciplinom.
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paro
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 13:33:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dal može malo opširnije o čemu se pričalo ili je tema bila samo industrijski strip? Šta znači da je prošlo u ˝optimističnom tonu˝? Ko je sve bio od forumaša?

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DeeCay
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 13:39:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

Dal može malo opširnije o čemu se pričalo ili je tema bila samo industrijski strip? Šta znači da je prošlo u ˝optimističnom tonu˝? Ko je sve bio od forumaša?


Netko je spomenuo Zagora, pa je Šagadin odgovorio (jer se Macan ogradio od pričanja o Zagoru). Optimistični ton je taj da je strip jak na ovim prostorima i da se o njemu sve više piše u novinama. Mnogo je autora koji rade na stripovima, doduše rade za vani, ali i to se računa. Pa broj izdanja ove godine, 500tinjak komada isto govori za sebe...

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paro
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 13:41:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DeeCay

Netko je spomenuo Zagora,



Zašto me ovo ne iznenađuje...

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fikus
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 16:36:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Reply with Quote
Ma o Zagoru se govorilo svega par minuta. Sve što je Šagadin rekao za mene ima smisla. Ostatak tribine se ipak bavio drugim stvarima kao npr rad naših crtača za druge autore (francuze).
Govorilo se i o festivalima stripa na ovim prostorima te o njihovim različitostima. Što se tiče Cigle mislim da još malo pa gotovo (još namontirati ton).





To što sam ja lud ne znači da me ne prate

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