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Curunir
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Posted - 19/02/2012 : 04:04:36
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Kako uvijek crtaju indijanke prekrasne i štotijaznamkako lijepe, a u stvarnosti nisu bile takve ljepotice, kako sam viđao na slikama. Naravno, ne želim ispasti rasist, sigurno je bilo lijepih žena, no u stripovima je svaka ko Megan Fox.
ti bi stvarnost u bonelliju?
evo ti naslovnice Texonea za 2015., zove se Lilythin povratak...

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Combatrock
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Zagor12
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Poli
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Poli
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DeeCay
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 15:21:38
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Nekako se zaželio Texa pa počeo čitati maxije... Nakon razočarenja s zagorovim maxijima, moram priznati da su mi ovi vrlo dobro sjeli, neki manje neki više. Odmah ih iskomentirao dok mi je još svježa materija... Mislio sam napraviti i recku zadnjeg maxija "Tex protiv legionara"
Opasno putovanje, maxi #9 (Manfredi/Repetto)
 Priča klasične western tematike, glavni motiv su stočari i sprovedba stoke preko negostoljubivih predjela Divljeg zapada. Sve to fino je poslužilo autoru da prikaže cijeli taj sistem sprovedbe stoke, potencijalne probleme, a i dobro se uklopio krimi potkontekst. Možda malo šepaju karakterizacije neki likova, no Tex je iako centralističko iskorišten, tek jedna od aktera priče. Slažem se da je Manfrediju ovo sasvim lijepi izlet u svijet Texa Willera... Nije definitivno imao problema s prilagođavanjem. ;) Ovaj Argentinac Repetto je super, zaista mi se dopao kao crtač, kao neka kombinacija Civitellija i Della Monice. Pročitao sam ga sa zanimanjem od početka do kraja, nije loše ovako malo pročitati čisti western.
Sin vjetra, Maxi #7 (Nizzi/Diso)
 Strip defininitivno nije zaslužio ovakve posprdne kritike od strane recenzenta jer se ovdje radi o solidnoj pričici. I Nizzi i Diso su Bonellijevi veterani i sigurno zaslužuju bolji tretman. U središtu nisu klasične western teme (iako su tu Indijanci i kauboji), nego je Nizzi za promjenu stavio figuru konja, Sina vjetra, u fokus priče. Na momente scenarij zna zaškripiti, i kao da se neke scene ponavljaju, no sve u svemu scenarij je izveden uspješno do kraja. Priča možda jeste onako na pola puta između Lassie se vraća kući i nestandadnog Texa (tematski govoreći), pa zato texoljupcima teže leži. Lijepa je ova uvodna priča o Disou i njegovog želji da crta konje da ih obožava (kad već nije imao prilike to raditi često u Mister Nou), i pogledamo li pažljivije, velika je pažnja posvećena crtanju konja. Bio sam malo skeptičan prije čitanja kad sam vidio da jedan misternoovac poput Disa radi Texa, no brzo me razuvjerio. Pejsaž i jest malo neuobičajen, no preko toga lako možemo prijeći. Ni najbolji ni najgori Tex maxi, i puno bolji od većine Zagorovih maxija...
Rio Hondo (Nizzi/Repetto)
 Ko da je preslikano iz nekog starog westerna, izlizana ali s duhom, baš kako je recenzent i napisao... I tema i scenarij i likovi, ležerna atmosferica, pitka pričica za opuštanje, tehničko odlično odrađena - loš veliki stočarski malverzant koji žele izbaciti iz igre male rančere pozitivce, kadli u pomoć uskaču dobri momci i spašavaju stvar. Kad čitam neke od komentara gdje se ljudi čude kakav je ovo Tex, dođe mi do smijeha... Ovo bi morao biti Tex u svome prirodnom okruženju, kad se izbace van sve one primjese horora i krimića. Humora baš i nema, tu su ljudi u pravu, Nizzi je vrlo ozbiljno pristupio temi i to meni uopće ne smeta. Repettov crtež isto dobar, ipak je ovo crtač koji je sazreo na westernu i crta ga cijeli svoj život...
Zlato juga (Segura/Ortiz)
 I ja sam također mišljenja da su Segura i Ortiz pravi potez za Texov staff. I jedan i drugi unose neke svježije momente u serijal, od zanimljivih likova do situacija ili socijalnog momenta u kojem se nalaze akteri. Jedino što Segura nekako nesigurno ubacuje crnohumorne elemente, kad da se ipak suzdržava od ubacivanja nekih stvari u te stripove (Bonelli je ipak malčice konzervativni izdavač). Kad bacimo pogleda na njegova starija ostvarenja, može se vidjeti koliko je on nesputani scenarist. Uživao sam od početka do kraja... Najbolja Segurina epizoda Texa!
Blindirani vlak (Segura/Ortiz)
 Možda i najlošiji Segurin maxi, no svejedno uspijeva zadržati pažnju do kraja... Malo kao da se inspirirao s Dirty Dozen, Tex okuplja šaroliku ekipu koja mora ići "iza neprijateljske linije" i sabotirati neprijatelja. Niz opakih likova koji su manje-više zanimljivi, posebno negativci, no poslije se prema kraju sve malo pogubi. Završni čin malo je zbrzan, to je sasvim očito čitatelju, kad se usporedi s tempom kojeg je imao strip s početka. Ortiz i naslovnica jako dobre, a Segurina ocjena jest solidno. Mislim, impresivna je to stripčina kad se uzme u ruke, no nakon čitanja ostaje osjećaj da smo čitali puno bolje. Možeš ti to bolje Segura!
Recka desetke; Kobrin otrov http://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/tex-willer-tx-mx-10-otrov-kobre/1297/
I jedinice: Oklahoma, prvog, ali najboljeg! http://www.stripovi.com/recenzije/tex-willer-tx-mx-1-oklahoma/467/ |
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Zagor12
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 15:34:38
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Gdje ti je Lovac na fosile? Vjerojatno ga nisi još pročitao . Uz bok Oklahomi po meni. Ovo drugo osim Zlata juga je pomalo zamorno.
(fale ti i Dva lica osvete i Sjeverozapadni teritorij ) |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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DeeCay
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 15:36:54
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Gdje ti je Lovac na fosile? Vjerojatno ga nisi još pročitao . Uz bok Oklahomi po meni. Ovo drugo osim Zlata juga je pomalo zamorno. (fale ti i Dva lica osvete i Sjeverozapadni teritorij )
Lovca na fosile sam čitao već davno i sjećam se da mi nije previše sjeo, isto kao i Sjeverozapadni jako davno, no dojam je bio sasvim suprotan. Dva lice osvete nisam čitao... |
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Kojot
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 16:42:11
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quote: Originally posted by DeeCay
quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Gdje ti je Lovac na fosile? Vjerojatno ga nisi još pročitao . Uz bok Oklahomi po meni. Ovo drugo osim Zlata juga je pomalo zamorno. (fale ti i Dva lica osvete i Sjeverozapadni teritorij )
Lovca na fosile sam čitao već davno i sjećam se da mi nije previše sjeo, isto kao i Sjeverozapadni jako davno, no dojam je bio sasvim suprotan. Dva lice osvete nisam čitao...
Cim si ti citao Texa,moram i ja uzeti Dilanov neki strip procitati(nijedan nisam procitao za ovih 34 godina koliko imam),pa preporuci mi neku epizodu ali da bude dobra.Ili neku od Martija sto da ne!Unapred Hvala! |
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solar
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:11:15
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@Dee Kog vraga ne staviš ocjene, a ne ovako moram čitati cijeli odlomak da skontam jel ti dobra ili ne!   
Sad ozbiljno, negdje sam pročitao Manfredijevu izjavu da je nakon svake epizode Teksa doslovno iscrpljen, tako da najvjerovatnije neće biti puno njegovih priča. |
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selanne
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:15:02
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quote: Originally posted by solar
@Dee Kog vraga ne staviš ocjene, a ne ovako moram čitati cijeli odlomak da skontam jel ti dobra ili ne!   
Tjera te da čitaš recke.  |
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solar
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:19:49
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Eh da, već duže vrijeme namjeravam pohvaliti vas nekolicinu Teksovih recenzenata jer meni i ostalima koji nismo hard core fanovi olakšavate izbor epizoda za čitanje. Tako da se ne moramo vlastoručno probijati kroz šumu Nizzijevih i inih dosadnjikavih priča. Uglavnom da nema recenzija, brzo bi odustao od Teksa. |
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dzoni
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:22:21
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dilan doga citaj sve sto ti padne pod ruku sve je dobro..recimo prvih 70 brojeva retko koji je los...to je klasika..preporucujem ti po originalnoj numeraciji brojeve 7,8,13,16,17,18,19,21,25,27,29,32,24,28,40,41,43,45,49,51,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,69,74,81.......od brojeva preko stotke preporucujem ti arakne oba nastavka..skener...mala smrt...obavezno dvodelnu pricu nocni lov i znak vampira....ma svaka druga dilanova epizoda je fenomenalna...i u vc opusu ima finih epizoda.... |
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selanne
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:22:32
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Borimo se protiv tiranije Zagora i njegovih fanova na ovom sajtu.  |
Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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solar
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 17:27:02
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@dzoni Hvala na preporukama, ali već sam nekoliko puta pokušao čitati Dylana i na kraju sam došao do zaključaka da to jednostavno nije strip za mene. On je kvalitetan, uzbudljiv, zanimljiv itd., ali jbg više volim western (Magični, Teks, Ken Parker, Zagi) i Magnus/Bunker produkciju. |
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 19:27:43
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Sto se Texa tice, ja citam sve redom, jer Tex ima najkvalitetniji crtacki staf. Pa i kad se zadesi da prica nije po mom ukusu, opet mi bude dobro jer odmorim oci zbog crteza.  |
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selanne
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 19:34:34
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quote: Originally posted by Brdar
Sto se Texa tice, ja citam sve redom, jer Tex ima najkvalitetniji crtacki staf. Pa i kad se zadesi da prica nije po mom ukusu, opet mi bude dobro jer odmorim oci zbog crteza. 
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Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted. |
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Bat Baterton
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 20:34:54
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quote: Originally posted by solar
Eh da, već duže vrijeme namjeravam pohvaliti vas nekolicinu Teksovih recenzenata jer meni i ostalima koji nismo hard core fanovi olakšavate izbor epizoda za čitanje. Tako da se ne moramo vlastoručno probijati kroz šumu Nizzijevih i inih dosadnjikavih priča. Uglavnom da nema recenzija, brzo bi odustao od Teksa.

Evo ja već neko vreme pratim recenzije i, još više, komentare određenih ljudi na te iste recenzije i po tome odlučujem šta sledeće da kupim od Texa! |
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Combatrock
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 20:57:43
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quote: Originally posted by Brdar
Sto se Texa tice, ja citam sve redom, jer Tex ima najkvalitetniji crtacki staf. Pa i kad se zadesi da prica nije po mom ukusu, opet mi bude dobro jer odmorim oci zbog crteza. 
brdare brate jebo si mu kevu koliko si tacno reko... svaka ti cast... pravo u centar... |
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kasper
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Posted - 22/02/2012 : 21:09:49
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quote: Originally posted by selanne
Borimo se protiv tiranije Zagora i njegovih fanova na ovom sajtu. 
Ah, samo preko mene mrtva  |
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Poli
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DeeCay
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Posted - 23/02/2012 : 11:10:22
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Malo da se poigram... Posložio sam si maxije od najbolje prema najlošijem, naravno, prema trenutnom osobnom dojmu. Možda da neke ponovno pročitam budu mi lošiji, a neki bolji...
Oklahoma! (Berardi/Letteri) Zlato juga (Segura/Ortiz) Sjeverozapadni teritorij (Boselli/Font) Rio Hondo (Nizzi/Repetto) Opasno putovanje (Manfredi/Repetto) Sin vjetra (Nizzi/Diso) Lovac na Fosile (Segura/Ortiz) Utvrda Sahara (Nizzi/Diso) Blindirani vlak (Segura/Ortiz) Dva lica osvete (Segura/Repetto) Kobrin otrov (Nizzi/Letteri-Della Monica)
Osobno mi je dobar NIzzi kad radi normalne western priče, tako da su mi se svidjeli Rio hondo i Sin Vjetra. Segura, iako dobar, zna se pogubiti. Od crtača me je Repetto najviše oduševio, Diso pozitivno iznenadio (smatrao sam da ću ga teško probaviti, a bilo je obratno). Ortiz je također odličan, on i Segura su dobar prilog staffu... Tandem Boselli/Font izvrsni, kao i Berardi/Letteri. |
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