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paro
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emirem
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 Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:27:06
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Originally posted by alexts
Koliko ja znam
Tron, Blade Runner, Imperija uzvraća udarac, Peti element...
Heavy Metal (1981) ?
Nisam siguran! |
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!" |
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Lord Vader89
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alexts
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:46:51
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
bez Imperije
Iz više izvora je potvrđeno, od kojih neki datiraju iz davnih vremena s kraja 80-ih, a neki su sveži poput vikipedie
Moebius contributed storyboards and concept designs to numerous science fiction films, including Alien by Ridley Scott, Tron by Disney, The Fifth Element by Luc Besson, Star Wars V, and |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:49:33
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Jean "Moebius" Giraud - Filmography
Art Department (12 titles)
2012 Strange Frame: Love & Sax (designs)
2003 Arzak Rhapsody (TV mini-series) (original designs - as Moebius, storyboards - uncredited)
1997 The Fifth Element (designer - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1996 Space Jam (visual development - as Moebius)
1989 The Abyss (conceptual artist - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1989 Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland (conceptual designer - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1988 Willow (conceptual artist)
1987 Masters of the Universe (special designer - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1982 TRON (conceptual artist: electronic world - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud, electronic conceptual design - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1982 Les maîtres du temps (original designs - as Moebius)
1980 Tusk (poster artist - as J. Giraud)
1979 Alien (concept artist - as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
Writer (8 titles)
2010 La planète encore (short)
2005 Thru the Moebius Strip (story)
2004 Blueberry (comic book / as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
2003 Arzak Rhapsody (TV mini-series) (as Moebius)
1991 Cauchemar blanc (short) (bande dessinée / as Moebius)
1989 Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland (story / as Jean 'Moebius' Giraud)
1982 Les maîtres du temps (scenario and adaptation / as Moebius)
1981 Heavy Metal (characters and situations / segment "Taarna" - uncredited)
Actor (3 titles)
2004 Blueberry (unconfirmed)
2003 Arzak Rhapsody (TV mini-series) (voice)
1999 1999 Madeleine
L'homme qui ramasse la croix
Director (2 titles)
2010 La planète encore (short)
2003 Arzak Rhapsody (TV mini-series) (as Moebius)
Animation Department (2 titles)
2004 Seven Samurai 20XX (Video Game) (character concept - as Moebius)
1996 Space Jam (character designer - as Moebius)
Producer (1 title)
2005 Thru the Moebius Strip (co-producer)
Production Designer (1 title)
2005 Thru the Moebius Strip
Miscellaneous Crew (1 title)
1980 Tusk (advertising artist - as J. Giraud)
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:52:50
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| George Lucas directly copied the launchpad sentinel for the look of the probe droid in "The Empire Strikes Back", completely preserving Moebius' original design |
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Lord Vader89
stripovi.com suradnik
France
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:54:45
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Originally posted by alexts
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
bez Imperije
Iz više izvora je potvrđeno, od kojih neki datiraju iz davnih vremena s kraja 80-ih, a neki su sveži poput vikipedie
Moebius contributed storyboards and concept designs to numerous science fiction films, including Alien by Ridley Scott, Tron by Disney, The Fifth Element by Luc Besson, Star Wars V, and
mani me vikipedije
ja se poznajem sa SW celog zivota
i jedini put kada sam cuo za Moebiusa kontekstu istih
je da je Lukas "slucajno" preuzeo njegove radove za Dinu, inkorporirao ih u Ratove zvezda, i sta ti ja znam vec, nije mi se ulazilo u to....
ali to opet ne znaci da je Moebius radio na Ratovima zvezda |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 20:58:16
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
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Originally posted by alexts
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
bez Imperije
Iz više izvora je potvrđeno, od kojih neki datiraju iz davnih vremena s kraja 80-ih, a neki su sveži poput vikipedie
Moebius contributed storyboards and concept designs to numerous science fiction films, including Alien by Ridley Scott, Tron by Disney, The Fifth Element by Luc Besson, Star Wars V, and
mani me vikipedije
ja se poznajem sa SW celog zivota
i jedini put kada sam cuo za Moebiusa kontekstu istih
je da je Lukas "slucajno" preuzeo njegove radove za Dinu, inkorporirao ih u Ratove zvezda, i sta ti ja znam vec, nije mi se ulazilo u to....
ali to opet ne znaci da je Moebius radio na Ratovima zvezda
ja sam u najmanje 6-7 tekstova iz ozbiljnih časopisa pročitao za Imperiju i Blade Runnera, od kojih je prvi bio YU strip sa početka 80-ih
to što čovek nije pomenut tj kreditovan, ne znači da nije dobio neku nadoknadu, odakle su informacije i potekle, verovatno |
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alexts
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:00:53
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Ovakva vest se nalazi na stotinama sajtova. zašto ne bi bila tačna?
During his career his collaborated with several famous comic book creators including American Stan Lee. And celebrated American film director George Lucas used one of Giraud’s designs for the Imperial Probe Droid in Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. |
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Lord Vader89
stripovi.com suradnik
France
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:01:35
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dok ne vidim, nista ne verujem
jbg
ako imas skenove
daj da vidimo
ako ne
jbg opet |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
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alexts
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:04:10
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
dok ne vidim, nista ne verujem
jbg
ako imas skenove
daj da vidimo
ako ne
jbg opet
Sve sam pročitao. Šta hoćeš da vidiš?
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:06:13
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pa rekao si da si citao ozbiljne textove
a ja kazem "daj da vidimo"
jer, ponavljam
svi ovi kazu "Djordjije je koristio Mebijusove koncepte"/"ovo i ono podseca na Mebijusove crteze"
nigde ne pise da su namenski pravljeni za Ratove zvezda
sto bi samim tim i znacilo da je Mebijus zapravo ucestvovao u svemu tome, pa makar i sa tri skice samo
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:08:09
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| Hoćeš da kažeš da Tolkin nema veze sa Džeksonovim LOTR jer ništa nije radio namenski za filmove, pošto je već bio mrtav, nego su samo koristili nešto što je on ranije stvorio? |
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:11:04
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Originally posted by alexts
Hoćeš da kažeš da Tolkin nema veze sa Džeksonovim LOTR jer ništa nije radio namenski za filmove, pošto je već bio mrtav, nego su samo koristili nešto što je on ranije stvorio?
Rekao bih da uspoređuješ kruške i jabuke.
Vader je u pravu. To što je Lucas iskoristio neku Giraudovu staru skicu ne znači da je on automatski radio na filmu. |
Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins |
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Lord Vader89
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France
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:11:40
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uboo si paralelu za sve pare
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
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Serbia
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:17:09
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Originally posted by Mr. Bushido
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Originally posted by alexts
Hoćeš da kažeš da Tolkin nema veze sa Džeksonovim LOTR jer ništa nije radio namenski za filmove, pošto je već bio mrtav, nego su samo koristili nešto što je on ranije stvorio?
Rekao bih da uspoređuješ kruške i jabuke.
Vader je u pravu. To što je Lucas iskoristio neku Giraudovu staru skicu ne znači da je on automatski radio na filmu.
Ma on je u pravu da nije radio direktno na filmu, ali nije u pravu da nema veze sa dizajnom, posebno gorenavedene robotske sonde, koja se iz aviona vidi da je Moebiusovska, a to svuda i piše i to već decenijama. |
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:19:33
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super je sve to, ali hajde da se vratimo samo na pocetak diskusije, pa da podvucemo crtu
covek je stavio print screen odjevne spice, gde se navode saradnici
ti dodajes jos naslova, i izmedju ostalog navodis Imperiju
mojom logikom
njega nema u Imperiji (jbg, tako je)
ti mene pokusavas da ubedis da ga ima
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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paro
stripovi.com suradnik
Croatia
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Member since 30/03/2005 |
Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:24:30
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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:26:36
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Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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paro
stripovi.com suradnik
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Member since 30/03/2005 |
Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:27:39
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Originally posted by Lord Vader89
da, ali to je potpuno druga ravan negoli Alien, Tron, i sve ostalo....
ok, po tome se slažemo. |
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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alexts
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:36:08
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Originally posted by paro
Želi ti reć valjda da to što nije naveden ne znači da svojom umjetnošću nije utjecao na film.
Da, ovaj topik je i za to da se pokaže našta je direktno i indirektno uticao Moebius.
Druga je priča ta, što se na zapadu sve plaća, ne verujem da je Lukas mogao da Mebijusu ne da nikakvu nadoknadu, a da iskoristi gotovo isti dizajn, ali ovde smo u domenu spekulacija.
Ridli Skot je (po sopstvenom priznanju) za dizajn Blejd Ranera koristio stripove Metal Hurlanta, naročito Mebijusove, posle čega ga je i zvao da direktno radi na filmu, ali ga je M. odbio jer je radio na drugom projektu - animiranom filmu, u tom periodu.
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Lord Vader89
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France
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:45:23
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opet, samo da odbranim svoj point of view,
OK
ali
onda se lepo posebno kaze
"ovde i ovde je bio dizajner
a na ova i ova dela je uticao svojim radom"
a ne sve trpati u isti kos
jerbo onda dodje do "zabune" :P |
Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D. |
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alexts
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Lord Vader89
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Ode i Moebius
