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Zagor12
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 17:57:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Zagor12's Homepage  Send Zagor12 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Conan UŽASNO napravljen (to je do scenarija), ali crtež je lijep.

Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti:
http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 21:39:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovi novi crtači uopće ne znaju crtati Zagora kako spada. Ovaj Chiarollin izgleda ko majmun, a Laurentijev ko divljak. To uopće nije Zagor! Verni jedini poznaje evanđelje po Ferriju! Njegov Zagor je pravi Zagor!



Ups, kriva tema.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins

Edited by - Mr. Bushido on 25/03/2012 21:40:21
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Windwalker
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 22:26:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stvar je u tome da je Zagor i majmun i divljak. Ima dobrog crteža, ima lošeg, ali uvijek je to nekakav Zagor.

A Conan meteroseksualni kost i koža dječarac nije. Ovo je jednostavno kriminalni užas.
Ako hoćeš usporedbu, zamisli da onaj lik iz Twilighta glumi Ramba u remakeu.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 22:41:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

A Conan meteroseksualni kost i koža dječarac nije.




Nego, što je na toj slici konkretno "metroseksualno" i "kost i koža"?

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins

Edited by - Mr. Bushido on 25/03/2012 22:41:50
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Windwalker
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 22:47:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako ne vidiš, nećeš ni vidjeti.
No, uglavnom, shvaća se smisao onoga što sam htio reći.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 22:51:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

Ako ne vidiš, nećeš ni vidjeti.
No, uglavnom, shvaća se smisao onoga što sam htio reći.


Pa pomozi mi da vidim. Očito imamo drugačije poimanje "metroseksualnog" i "kosti i koža".

A što je smisao? Da je Buscemin Conan jedini pravi Conan?

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Windwalker
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 23:28:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ne. Već da su većina Conana pravi Conani osim ovih ispljuvaka u novoj Barbarian seriji. Iznutra izgleda još gore nego na ovoj naslovnici.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 23:36:22  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

Ne. Već da su većina Conana pravi Conani osim ovih ispljuvaka u novoj Barbarian seriji. Iznutra izgleda još gore nego na ovoj naslovnici.


Nekom ispljuvak, drugom zlato.

Mislim da Cloonan i Harren nimalo ne zaostaju za ostalim crtačima Conana. Dapače, pravo su osvježenje. Dovoljno je bilo crtača i urednika koji furaju Buscema-naočale.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 23:42:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lord Vader89 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zasto imam osecaj da je Mairosu upucivao na ovako nesto :D

Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D.
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Windwalker
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Posted - 25/03/2012 : 23:51:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Windwalker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kako promjena lika i oduzimanje svih značajnih mu karakteristika može biti osvježenje stvarno ne znam.
Kuda ide ovaj svijet?
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:07:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vader89

zasto imam osecaj da je Mairosu upucivao na ovako nesto :D


Ovakve teme su magnet za mene.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:12:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Windwalker

Kako promjena lika i oduzimanje svih značajnih mu karakteristika može biti osvježenje stvarno ne znam.
Kuda ide ovaj svijet?



Kakve su mu to značajne karakteristike oduzete?

Još uvijek je ratnik koji vitla mačem, pije, ždere i pali se na oskudno odijevene žene.

I zamisli, ne izgleda ko da je sazdan od cigala. Velika tragedija.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Felagund
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:13:21  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Felagund a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U potpunosti se slazem sa Windwalker-om. Pa ne mozes mjenjati nesto po cemu je lik to sto jest. Ako je on ogromna mrcina koja barata ogromnim macem (nisam citao Conana, ali sam gledao crtic i film), ne mozes ga onda prikazati kao djecarca sa nekim bodezom. Pa daj probaj zamisliti da sad dode u Bonelli neki novi crtac i nacrta Zagora ovako nekako .
Nekako sumnjam da bi ljudi voljeli takvog Zagora


P.S. : Svaka slicnost i podudarnost sa stvarnim osobama je slucajna i nenamjerna

Sve je relativno (E = mc^2)

Edited by - Felagund on 26/03/2012 00:15:37
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Lord Vader89
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:22:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Lord Vader89 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
jebi ga sad, Bushido

tom logikom bi i od Paje Patka mogao da napravis Paju Pingvina
ali to bi bilo potpuno OK, jer bi on i dalje bio prznica, ziveo od danas do sutra, jurcao za Patom, itd.... ?

Potpis u dva reda, prema pravilniku:
Vader je, kao i uvek, u pravu. ; john connor ; 2022 A.D.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:27:51  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vader89

jebi ga sad, Bushido

tom logikom bi i od Paje Patka mogao da napravis Paju Pingvina
ali to bi bilo potpuno OK, jer bi on i dalje bio prznica, ziveo od danas do sutra, jurcao za Patom, itd.... ?


Kruške i jabuke.

Barry Windsor-Smith nije crtao Conana kao vreću mišića, niti ga je Robert Howard takvim opisivao.

Nakon 400+ brojeva Conana, kakvim su ga crtali Buscema i drugi, ljudima je najednom teško prožvakati Conana kakav je bio u početku i kakvim ga je Howard zamišljao.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Felagund
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 00:42:00  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Felagund a Private Message  Reply with Quote
E sad, kao sto sam rekao, nisam citao Conana, ali je li ovo http://barrywindsor-smith.com/marvel/conan1.html rad tog Barry Windsor - Smitha? Ako je, onda ova naslovnica na ovom linku nema apsolutno nikakve veze sa slikom na ovoj temi. Ako, nije, moje isprike na pogresnoj usporedbi.

Sve je relativno (E = mc^2)
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paro
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:03:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vader89

zasto imam osecaj da je Mairosu upucivao na ovako nesto :D



hehehe, e moj Bushido, sve dok ne popljuvaš neki strip i izdanje ne možeš se smatrat ozbiljnim strip kritičarem...jbga
Jer nemoguće da su istinskom stripofilu svi stripovi odlični i sva izdanja supač

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Edited by - paro on 26/03/2012 01:04:46
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:11:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Vader89

zasto imam osecaj da je Mairosu upucivao na ovako nesto :D



hehehe, e moj Bushido, sve dok ne popljuvaš neki strip i izdanje ne možeš se smatrat ozbiljnim strip kritičarem...jbga
Jer nemoguće da su istinskom stripofilu svi stripovi odlični i sva izdanja supač


A gdje sam ja to rekao da sebe smatram strip kritičarem?

Niti su mi svi stripovi odlični, niti sva izdanja supač. Hoćeš listu?

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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paro
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:13:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Niti su mi svi stripovi odlični, niti sva izdanja supač. Hoćeš listu?



Ovo se zajebavaš il šta??

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Mr. Bushido
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:17:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Mr. Bushido a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Niti su mi svi stripovi odlični, niti sva izdanja supač. Hoćeš listu?



Ovo se zajebavaš il šta??


Pobogu, to što hvalim puno stvari ne znači da ne postoji nešto što mi se ne sviđa.

Comics is any art you can read. -- Sean T. Collins
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Vlaadisha
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:27:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Vlaadisha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lista! Lista!

moji crteži
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paro
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:29:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit paro's Homepage  Send paro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Bushido

Pobogu, to što hvalim puno stvari ne znači da ne postoji nešto što mi se ne sviđa.



Evo, reci koji ti je strip sranje i ja se idem bacit preko ograde balkona

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Jasko
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:32:28  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jasko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paro
Evo, reci koji ti je strip sranje i ja se idem bacit preko ograde balkona



Pa zar to nije ocigledno?
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wele
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:35:12  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wele a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jasko

quote:
Originally posted by paro
Evo, reci koji ti je strip sranje i ja se idem bacit preko ograde balkona



Pa zar to nije ocigledno?


gorZa konZa
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Jasko
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Posted - 26/03/2012 : 01:36:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Jasko a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wele

gorZa konZa



Vidim ja, ce ides ti u tvorZa
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