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Amos
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 15:41:46
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quote: Originally posted by Galadriel
quote: Originally posted by Amos Larry griješi sa svojim pitanjima jer opsceno je jedno i drugo. Razlika je u tome što će odrasli konzumenti znati zauzeti stav prema sadržaju (barem se nadam ) dok mladi samo konzumiraju bez kriterija.
Ali onda se vraćam na pitanje - zašto baš ovaj strip? Zašto ne From Hell, Ubojica, Špageti brothers? I Betelgeuse ima golih (o )( o)
Pa ovo je topic o Džinu, zar ne? |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 15:51:47
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quote: Originally posted by Amos
@lwood Ne znam onda. Možda se nas dvojica bitno razlikujemo po gledištima na ove stvari.
Ja svojima nikada ne bih dao da čitaju ovakve stripove i koliko bude u mojoj moći da ih spriječim, to ću i učiniti. Sa sigurnošću znam da ih neću moći skroz zaštiti jer živimo u svijetu gdje je sve vrlo brzo i lako dostupno, ali barem će znati da im otac nikada nije servirao pornografiju, nasilje i krv..
I slažem se s tobom da ne trebaju gledati dokumentarce o ratnim zločinima.
opet te priče da je nekad nešto bilo bolje.  ajmo ovako,ti svoje nečeš ništa učit? (mislin konkretno u vezi sexualnosti) znači od nečeg potpuno prirodnog stvaraš tabu temu koja može završit i s lošin posljedicama,jer opet če oni to doznat na lip ili grub način. |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 15:56:46
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by Amos
Za premošćivanje upozorenja od 270 kuna služe gradske knjižnice, a niti listanje knjige u knjižari ili drugdje nije pojava bez presedana..
lwoode, pa valjda postoje neki kriteriji kada se djeci i mladima može omogućiti pristup određenim sadržajima, a kada ih od toga treba ustegnuti? Pođi od sebe. Bi li dao svojoj djeci da čitaju ovaj strip, sa svim njegovim "romantičnim kunilingusima", prizorima bordela i sl? Da ne bi ispalo da pljujem po Džinu, kriterij slobodno proširi na svaki drugi strip sa sličnim sadržajem..
uvik i polazin od sebe. ja san gleda i veče hardcore stvari s 13-14 godina. čak san ih i kupova na trafici. i da ,da iman dicu ne vidin zašto im ne bi da da ovo čitaju?? više bi mi smetalo (kad si več počea o odgoju) da gledaju dokumentarce o ratnim zločinima i slično. 
Ovo je na Smojinome tragu kad je reka da za njega ružne riči nisu ku..c, pi..a i je.....a", nego rat, pištolj, bomba, itd...
pa i nije da nije bia u pravu |
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supermark
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 15:58:51
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
inače,jučer san dovršia prvu knjigu i odlična je. uvjerljivo najbolje fibrino izdanje ovog Mafesta
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 16:00:40
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quote: Originally posted by Galadriel
@ Amos Nekako sumnjam da Fibrini stripovi stoje na dječjem odjelu u knjižnicama. Također ne mislim da bi knjižurina od 300+250 stranica i nekih kilu ipo težine uopće privukla nekog tko spada u tu populaciju na koju bi se oznaka odnosila. Mlađem bratu/sestri/djetetu/susjedu ne bih dala da čita ovaj strip prvenstveno jer ga vjerojatno ne bi razumio, niti bi imao koncentracije da ga dovrši. Pa ni Rat-mana ne bi davala klincima iako na prvi pogled izgleda kao dječji strip.
Uostalom, misliš da bi oznaka imala kakve koristi (zapravo najčešće služi da privuče publiku kojoj je to zabranjeno )? Većina računalnih igara ima te oznake, pa klincima iz osnovnjaka roditelji svejedno kupuju GTA, Assassin's creed i slično.
I zašto izdvajaš baš ovaj strip? Oznaku onda treba nakeljiti i na Zagora, na čijim stranicama svako malo netko nekog skalpira. Ili misliš da je ubijanje i šaketanje prihvatljiviji prizor od onoga koji prikazuje tjelesni užitak dvoje/troje/x ljudi?
ma da,a tek dječje pričice tipa vuk pojede baku ,zaspe ,dođe lovac ispara mu trbuh nožen,stavi kamenje ,zašije i baci ga u bunar.
ili ona s ivicon i maricon koje zarobi baka kanibalka ,tovi ih da budu dobri za pečenje a ovi se oslobode pa je živu spale.
zaista prekrasno. ali ne problem je Džin jer bi neko moga vidit sisu ili guzu  mislin,fakat strašno  |
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Edited by - lwood on 30/05/2012 16:01:38 |
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Amos
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Croatia
2896 Posts
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 16:02:46
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
opet te priče da je nekad nešto bilo bolje.  ajmo ovako,ti svoje nečeš ništa učit? (mislin konkretno u vezi sexualnosti) znači od nečeg potpuno prirodnog stvaraš tabu temu koja može završit i s lošin posljedicama,jer opet če oni to doznat na lip ili grub način.
Naravno da ću ih učiti, ali na način da dobiju zdravu sliku seksualnosti, a ne sliku koju nude mediji i internet  |
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lwood
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Colombia
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mladjo
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Croatia
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puxavida
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:23:59
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slažem sa amosom. Ni ja nikad ne bih kupio niti ću kupiti takav strip.... niti bih volio da mi djeca to gledaju na policama.... Ima u fibrinoj ponudi podosta stvari koje ja iz tog ili sličnog razloga izbjegavam
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:24:28
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
To je nevjerojatno, uvijek postoji jedan...
ljubazno pitan amosa da mi objasni svoju koncepciju onoga šta smatra "zdravom slikom sexualnosti". ne vidin u čemen je problem  |
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bosancicigor
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:28:23
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quote: Originally posted by puxavida
slažem sa amosom. Ni ja nikad ne bih kupio niti ću kupiti takav strip.... niti bih volio da mi djeca to gledaju na policama.... Ima u fibrinoj ponudi podosta stvari koje ja iz tog ili sličnog razloga izbjegavam

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NESVRSTANI
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:30:41
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quote: Originally posted by bosancicigor
quote: Originally posted by puxavida
slažem sa amosom. Ni ja nikad ne bih kupio niti ću kupiti takav strip.... niti bih volio da mi djeca to gledaju na policama.... Ima u fibrinoj ponudi podosta stvari koje ja iz tog ili sličnog razloga izbjegavam

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Doli sve stranke!!! Živili naši dušmani!!! |
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sandyboy
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:35:51
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quote: Originally posted by bosancicigor
quote: Originally posted by puxavida
slažem sa amosom. Ni ja nikad ne bih kupio niti ću kupiti takav strip.... niti bih volio da mi djeca to gledaju na policama.... Ima u fibrinoj ponudi podosta stvari koje ja iz tog ili sličnog razloga izbjegavam

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globinjo
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:37:10
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quote: Originally posted by NESVRSTANI
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by Amos
Za premošćivanje upozorenja od 270 kuna služe gradske knjižnice, a niti listanje knjige u knjižari ili drugdje nije pojava bez presedana..
lwoode, pa valjda postoje neki kriteriji kada se djeci i mladima može omogućiti pristup određenim sadržajima, a kada ih od toga treba ustegnuti? Pođi od sebe. Bi li dao svojoj djeci da čitaju ovaj strip, sa svim njegovim "romantičnim kunilingusima", prizorima bordela i sl? Da ne bi ispalo da pljujem po Džinu, kriterij slobodno proširi na svaki drugi strip sa sličnim sadržajem..
uvik i polazin od sebe. ja san gleda i veče hardcore stvari s 13-14 godina. čak san ih i kupova na trafici. i da ,da iman dicu ne vidin zašto im ne bi da da ovo čitaju?? više bi mi smetalo (kad si več počea o odgoju) da gledaju dokumentarce o ratnim zločinima i slično. 
Ovo je na Smojinome tragu kad je reka da za njega ružne riči nisu ku..c, pi..a i je.....a", nego rat, pištolj, bomba, itd...
naravno...make love not war |
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globinjo
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:39:31
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by Amos
Za premošćivanje upozorenja od 270 kuna služe gradske knjižnice, a niti listanje knjige u knjižari ili drugdje nije pojava bez presedana..
lwoode, pa valjda postoje neki kriteriji kada se djeci i mladima može omogućiti pristup određenim sadržajima, a kada ih od toga treba ustegnuti? Pođi od sebe. Bi li dao svojoj djeci da čitaju ovaj strip, sa svim njegovim "romantičnim kunilingusima", prizorima bordela i sl? Da ne bi ispalo da pljujem po Džinu, kriterij slobodno proširi na svaki drugi strip sa sličnim sadržajem..
uvik i polazin od sebe. ja san gleda i veče hardcore stvari s 13-14 godina.
pih...s 11 godina sam dobio video...daljinski na kabel...koje su to projekcije bile u mene doma   do kraja početne špice svi su bili gotovi     |
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lwood
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Colombia
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globinjo
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 17:43:56
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šalu na stranu,moje dijete koje ima 8 godina sigurno ovo neće uzet u ruke...zašto?zato šta je odmalena odgajana da ne dira ni u kom slučaju tatine stripove...već samo one koje joj tata kupi(mikijev zabavnik,almanah,witch,winxice i ostale dičije gluposti...a danas dica imaju deset puta više od onog šta smo mi iz sedamdeset i neke imali...kad joj dođe vrime za to,neka gleda...ali,slušajući priče roditelja,a pogotovo onih koji imaju žensku dicu,mi smo amateri glede preuranjenog otkrivanja ovakvog ili onakvog štiva ili vlastite sexualnosti...šokantno i za mene,ali istinito... |
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mladjo
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 18:31:22
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by mladjo
To je nevjerojatno, uvijek postoji jedan...
ljubazno pitan amosa da mi objasni svoju koncepciju onoga šta smatra "zdravom slikom sexualnosti". ne vidin u čemen je problem 
Mislio sam na Amosa čovječe, a ne na tebe  |
COUNT ZERO INTERRUPT an interrupt of a process decrements a counter to zero
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Mhejl
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 18:33:26
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by mladjo
To je nevjerojatno, uvijek postoji jedan...
ljubazno pitan amosa da mi objasni svoju koncepciju onoga šta smatra "zdravom slikom sexualnosti". ne vidin u čemen je problem 
vjerovatno "ništa pre braka"...  |
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mladjo
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Poli
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 18:59:31
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Eh, kad nema toplih, onda...
Markose, razmisli o naljepnici (ili barem tamnoj foliji) kad dođe Magnus na red. :D
P.S. Imam djete, i mislim da ga ovo ne bi pokvarilo. Ali isto kao globinjo, nece on jos tako brzo cackati po tatinim stripovima. Za sada su bageri i traktori po youtubu. :D
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Combatrock
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Serbia
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King Warrior
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 20:42:00
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Mislim da sam procitao sve Djinn albume sto su izasli, ne znam vise ni sam. Uglavnom, ja Djinn nikada nisam dozivljavao kao erotski vec kao avanturisticki strip sa erotskim elementima. Vecina Manarinih stripova ima da ponudi mnogo vise materijala za onanisanje od Djinn. Dakle, ne vidim razlog zasto bi ovaj strip primao kritike u tom pravcu. A to da li je ovaj strip pogodan za mladje od 12 godina...pa, mislim da nije, u istoj mjeri kao i Dylan Dog, Maus, Iguana, Borgia i mnogobrojni drugi naslovi. |
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lwood
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Colombia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 20:55:45
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by mladjo
To je nevjerojatno, uvijek postoji jedan...
ljubazno pitan amosa da mi objasni svoju koncepciju onoga šta smatra "zdravom slikom sexualnosti". ne vidin u čemen je problem 
Mislio sam na Amosa čovječe, a ne na tebe 
jebiga, navika, šta češ  |
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Amos
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Croatia
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Posted - 30/05/2012 : 21:03:12
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quote: Originally posted by mladjo
To je nevjerojatno, uvijek postoji jedan...
Što "uvijek postoji jedan"? Kakav? |
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