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Paka01
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:14:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mislin, kad postoje gluposti tipa Chico, Legs i ne znan ni ja šta... Čak imaju i one sporedne priče od Grouchoa u Dylan Dog specijalcima (ja mislin, nisan siguran), kako ovo nikome nije palo napamet? Držin se mišljenja da bi jedan kvalitetan scenarist tipa Boselli napravija čudo od ovoga i nimalo ne sumnjan da bi bilo stvarno isplativo, pa makar i desetak brojeva.

Ne pratim talijanske forume, al za vas koji pratite, jel ovako nešto ikad i postojalo kao ideja? Jednostavno mi je skroz čudno da jedan od najpoznatijih sporednih (a i to sporednih nekad dosta naginje prema ravnopravnome glavnome) likova nije dobija svoj spin-off.

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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King Warrior
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:21:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote





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Paka01
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:25:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hah, koji vrh Nisan ni zna za ovo.
Al ajde, ja sam mislija na bonellijevoga Carsona

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And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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elfak nish
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:28:19  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send elfak nish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Izasao re par godina i kod nas neki Kit Karson ,sveska


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King Warrior
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:33:37  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send King Warrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kit Carson je istorijska licnost:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Carson
Pretpostavljam da Bonelli nije imao namjeru da ga uvede kao stalnog vec kao gostujuceg lika, pa eto, ispalo drugacije.
Samo steta sto tako jedan popularan lik stoji u SBE u sjenci jednog imaginarnog junaka.
Mada, vremenski se slabo poklapa u Texove avanture. Carson je preminuo 1868. godine.

Edited by - King Warrior on 23/11/2012 01:34:58
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Tutta
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:50:54  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tutta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Kit Carson je istorijska licnost:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Carson
Pretpostavljam da Bonelli nije imao namjeru da ga uvede kao stalnog vec kao gostujuceg lika, pa eto, ispalo drugacije.
Samo steta sto tako jedan popularan lik stoji u SBE u sjenci jednog imaginarnog junaka.
Mada, vremenski se slabo poklapa u Texove avanture. Carson je preminuo 1868. godine.

cak mu i slici. al kroz sbe zivi dalje.

+IN HOC SIGNO VINCES+


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zlatan bihac
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:51:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send zlatan bihac a Yahoo! Message  Send zlatan bihac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Mislin, kad postoje gluposti tipa Chico, Legs i ne znan ni ja šta... Čak imaju i one sporedne priče od Grouchoa u Dylan Dog specijalcima (ja mislin, nisan siguran), kako ovo nikome nije palo napamet? Držin se mišljenja da bi jedan kvalitetan scenarist tipa Boselli napravija čudo od ovoga i nimalo ne sumnjan da bi bilo stvarno isplativo, pa makar i desetak brojeva.

Ne pratim talijanske forume, al za vas koji pratite, jel ovako nešto ikad i postojalo kao ideja? Jednostavno mi je skroz čudno da jedan od najpoznatijih sporednih (a i to sporednih nekad dosta naginje prema ravnopravnome glavnome) likova nije dobija svoj spin-off.


pa tex u vrijeme 90-ih kada su bili popularni specijali sa tim sporednim likovima nije ni imao specijal ediciju pa nije ni bilo prostora za to...vjerovatno bi i on i tiger,kit W.,možda i el morisco, i ostali imali one neke epizodice od po 30-ak strana...
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Paka01
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 01:55:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Paka01 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aha aha, nisan zna.
Al zašto danas ne probat tako nešto?

Would a new flood please finally come? A real rain and an assortment of plagues
And when all is said and done, even the Devil won't care enough to spit in the mud


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Deers
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 07:28:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Deers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mislim da je itekako nekom palo na pamet ali je vjerovatno Bonelli svaku ideju odmah ubijao. Tex je, na kraju krajeva, uvijek morao biti poseban (jedini ima specijalce koji su giganti a zovu se specijal, gostujući crtači...)

"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam."
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selanne
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 08:05:04  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ja bih više volio Tigera.

Where other men blindly follow the truth, remember - nothing is true. Where other men are limited by morality or law, remember - everything is permitted. We work in the dark to serve the light. We are assassins! Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
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DeeCay
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 09:35:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send DeeCay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
koje pitanje! Ko da netko drugi može zamijeniti Texa. pih.

“A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies; the man who never reads lives only one."
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johnhartson
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 10:40:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit johnhartson's Homepage  Send johnhartson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ako nisu poceli s tim po izdavanju Karsonove proslosti, tesko da ce ikad

Until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes - dis a war
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dicmanjac
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 12:41:44  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dicmanjac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Warrior

Kit Carson je istorijska licnost:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Carson
Pretpostavljam da Bonelli nije imao namjeru da ga uvede kao stalnog vec kao gostujuceg lika, pa eto, ispalo drugacije.
Samo steta sto tako jedan popularan lik stoji u SBE u sjenci jednog imaginarnog junaka.
Mada, vremenski se slabo poklapa u Texove avanture. Carson je preminuo 1868. godine.



Da više puta se spominje i u PSDZ.
Bilo bi interesantno pročitati nekakav mini serijal.
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MarxH
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 15:48:10  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send MarxH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U Texu je Kit često prikazan kao ženskar... u stvarnom životu je imao osmero djece...

Ocean tuge je beskrajan i dubok. Okreni se oko sebe i naci ceš obalu...
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Tutta
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 16:08:35  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Tutta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MarxH

U Texu je Kit često prikazan kao ženskar... u stvarnom životu je imao osmero djece...

uh. a to su samo ona za koje se zna.

+IN HOC SIGNO VINCES+


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selanne
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 16:16:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit selanne's Homepage  Send selanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nomen est omen.

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Kit Carson
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 19:18:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Kit Carson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Hah, koji vrh Nisan ni zna za ovo.
Al ajde, ja sam mislija na bonellijevoga Carsona


A ja sam mislio o mojim dozivljajima.

Ubrzajte Texa u koloru na 2 mesecno!
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cronos six
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 19:57:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send cronos six a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kit Carson

quote:
Originally posted by Paka01

Hah, koji vrh Nisan ni zna za ovo.
Al ajde, ja sam mislija na bonellijevoga Carsona


A ja sam mislio o mojim dozivljajima.



da be.moze i 2012.
prva epizoda-vaskrs kit carsona.

Juznjak!
Tex Willer.
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Bardho
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 20:46:39  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Bardho a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MarxH

U Texu je Kit često prikazan kao ženskar... u stvarnom životu je imao osmero djece...



jel a s koliko žena?
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emirem
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 20:53:31  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send emirem a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kit Cara...svedski korijeni pa otuda Carson..
Ima i film piratski u Turskoj "Kita çunum Karabela"
(za one koji ne znaju parodiram film o zagoru "Zagor karabela" (1970) :-))

"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!"
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going going
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Posted - 23/11/2012 : 21:21:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
U uvodniku za jedan od prvih Teksova od VCa pise da se osamdesetih planirala ideja o serijalu Kit Willer i Tiger Jack ali se kasnije odustalo.


Meni je Kit veoma drag i simpatican lik ali ne znam sta bi mogli da naprave sa pricom...Da se desava pre upoznavanja sa Texom ili istovremeno ne znam, ali bi mogao serijal da bude hit!
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velka031
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Posted - 24/11/2012 : 21:25:55  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kit Carson je lik koji bi sigurno funkcionirao i bez Texa, ali s njim je to ipak ono pravo, ne bih mogao bez njihovih dijaloga!
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Leonid
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Posted - 24/11/2012 : 21:43:48  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Leonid a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nije bez razloga jedna od najboljih epizoda Texa upravo "Carsonova prošlost".......predobar lik.
Nije neka šeprtlja ili nesposobnjaković,već po mogućnostima jednak glavnom liku,pogotovo za stolom

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Posted - 24/11/2012 : 22:01:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send velka031 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leonid

Nije bez razloga jedna od najboljih epizoda Texa upravo "Carsonova prošlost".......predobar lik.
Nije neka šeprtlja ili nesposobnjaković,već po mogućnostima jednak glavnom liku,pogotovo za stolom



On je još i bolji od glavnog lika, zato što je stariji, to mu se mora dodati kao plus... Isti kao Tex, a mator
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going going
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Posted - 25/11/2012 : 11:47:25  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send going going a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by velka031

quote:
Originally posted by Leonid

Nije bez razloga jedna od najboljih epizoda Texa upravo "Carsonova prošlost".......predobar lik.
Nije neka šeprtlja ili nesposobnjaković,već po mogućnostima jednak glavnom liku,pogotovo za stolom



On je još i bolji od glavnog lika, zato što je stariji, to mu se mora dodati kao plus... Isti kao Tex, a mator



A ima i dobre brkove!
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acestroke
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Posted - 25/11/2012 : 15:30:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit acestroke's Homepage  Send acestroke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pa Chico i Groucho, na primjer, su uglavnom 'comic relief' likovi, tako da njihovi dodatci ili specijali imaju potpuno drugaciji ton od Zagora ili Dylana. Da su Kit Carsonu dali svoj specijal, mislim da se ne bi uopste razlikovao od Texovog, zato su mozda odlucili da nema potrebe.

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