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Caleb
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 01:01:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Caleb's Homepage  Send Caleb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?

Preveo: Goran Krickovic, Tekst interpretirali: Ljubiša Bacic, Nada Blam, Miroslav Bijelic, Vlastimir Ðuza Stoiljkovic i Nikola Simic, Magnetoskop: Miroslav Nikolov, Ton majstor: Rihard Merc, Realizacija: Slavko Tatic
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Poli
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 08:25:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?



Meni je bio odlican. Dobra fora sa "Mr. Smithom" i relacijom Matrix. Karma i reinkarnacija u filmu. Mozda bi moglo i drugacije sve to prikazati ali i ovako je sasvim dobro.
Odluke su na nama, nikada se ne treba predati, pa cak i u bezazlenoj situaciji, svaka kap koja padne na zemlju se na kraju ponovno nadje u oceanu. Tacka.



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dosada
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 14:19:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?



jedan od filmova godine od ovih kino hitova...

razmjena filmova za stripove!
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 14:43:43  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send manhunter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odličan film.

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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 15:16:53  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Meni nije legao

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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 15:42:29  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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Kod nas su cijene upola jeftinije, ali me strah da se i to ne promijeni kad uđemo u EU.



Gdje to? Javi pa da ne bacam novce na Cinestar.
Mene je karta za Atlas koštala 40kn = 5,30€
Za Life of Pi 50kn = 6,70€
Istina može se nešto jeftinije srijedom.
U svakom slučaju je skupo, još kad uzmeš kokice i kolu kino te dođe i do 100kn.

quote:
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Ali kino barem meni nema alternativu, svakako ne za vizualno raskošan film kakav je Atlas oblaka



Slažem se, neke filmove treba pogledati u kinu. Atlas oblaka je definitivno kino film, Life of Pi isto tako...


quote:
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, koji je meni s jedne strane previše pretenciozan, a s druge previše trivijalan u porukama koje šalje.



Pretenciozan je, ali dobrim dijelom to nadoknađuje. Te trivijalne poruke su temelj ljudske rase. To ti je otprilike kao da kažeš da je 10 Božjih zapovijedi trivijalno. Mogu se složiti, ali opet nije loše ljude podsjetiti i na te "trivijalne" stvari jer ih često zaboravimo.

Tebi je onda draži Haneke. I njegovi filmovi imaju "trivijalne" poruke, samo ih on malo drugačije zapakira.


quote:
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A i ne volim kad se filmovima šalju doslovne poruke.



To je dobro za nas koji malo sporije kapiramo.
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stripofil
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 15:49:18  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?



Meni je jako dobar.
Obavezno ga gledati u kinu.

Ovdje je bila kraća rasprava, pa da se ne ponavljam:
http://forum.stripovi.com/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=41845&REPLY_ID=1576890

Zanimljivo da je budžet bio oko 100mil.$, a zarada jedva 27mil.$.
Po meni jedan od boljih filmova koje sam pogledao prošle godine u kinu, a pogledao sam ih poprilično.

Hobbit, budžet oko 180mil.$, zarada 600mil.$

I sad se ljudi ljute i čude zašto ga je podijelio u tri djela.
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stripofil
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 15:50:41  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dosada

quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?



jedan od filmova godine od ovih kino hitova...



Slažem se.

Može ga se pogledati slobodno 2-3 puta, jer je toliko kompleksan i detaljan da se kod svakog gledanja primjete novi detalji, poveznice...
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dosada
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 16:03:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stripofil

I sad se ljudi ljute i čude zašto ga je podijelio u tri djela.



čude se klinci, pa još izdavač Gospodara Prstenova podijelil na 3 knjige a nne da filmska industrija ne bu onda filmove....

meni je smiješno samo da se čude kad ljudima spomeneš da je Gospodar ili Hobit jedan film podijeljen na dijelove

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mr murdoc
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 16:20:56  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send mr murdoc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dosada

quote:
Originally posted by stripofil

I sad se ljudi ljute i čude zašto ga je podijelio u tri djela.



čude se klinci, pa još izdavač Gospodara Prstenova podijelil na 3 knjige a nne da filmska industrija ne bu onda filmove....

meni je smiješno samo da se čude kad ljudima spomeneš da je Gospodar ili Hobit jedan film podijeljen na dijelove

Ah , mislis na pobornike teorije trilogije.., da bas smijesno
Btw , Hobitt je limunada , mozda drugi dio "trilogije", bude sa secerom

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stripofil
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 16:28:30  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Preko vikenda sam pogledao:

- Oldboy (ponovno :)) i opet se oduševio

- The Dancer Upstairs (bio na Cinestar TV-u). Solidno ostvarenje. Odlična mi je atmosfera koju film stvara, nešto je u zraku, stiže promjena, strah i kazna... glazba podiže osjećaj napetosti. Javier jako dobar. Inače priča se temelji na istinitim događajima u Peruu. Brutalna revolucija i pobuna protiv fašističke vlasti. Naravno tu je i ljubavna priča, ali ne kao dominantni dio filma. Zanimljiva je zaluđenost koju je Ezequiel postigao, pomalo nadrealna. Njegov lik je izrazito tajnovit i tu mi je falilo malo više detalja, očito je bilo bitnije stvoriti efekt mističnosti i to na način da o njemu što manje saznamo.

- 2046 Obavezno pogledati, iako sam siguran da se mnogima neće dopasti. Na momente monoton, ali opet te svakom scenom sve više usisava u svoj svijet. Postepeno gradi odnos gledatelj-glumac i na kraju imate dojam da niste gledali film već da ste bili dio nečega stvarnog. Likovi nam se uvlače pod kožu i postaju naši prijatelji, poznanici i neprijatelji. Film ostavlja jači dojam po završetku nego dok traje. Poput doživljaja kojeg nismo svjesni dok traje već tek iz sjećanja. Jako zanimljivo i jednostavno lijepo.
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Poli
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:06:15  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

aaaah, da, 2046 je stvarno ljep, ali mi je njegov In the Mood for Love odnosno Fa yeung nin wa (2000) jos bolji, ovaj ljepsi


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dosada
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:10:59  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poli


aaaah, da, 2046 je stvarno ljep, ali mi je njegov In the Mood for Love odnosno Fa yeung nin wa (2000) jos bolji, ovaj ljepsi





a tek "ashes of time"....kar wai filmaš kakv se jdnom rodi!

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stripofil
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 17:36:20  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vezano za Oldboya, a i za još jedan film koji sam pogledao i zaboravio ga spomenuti. Iskreno takav film je teško zaboraviti. :))

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321511/
hmm...


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384533/
She Hate Me (Cinestar TV) - upao sam negdje 10min. nakon početka, uz večeru pa eto nešto da pratim na TV-u. Počelo je kao klasični korporativni-triler-drama, a pretvorilo se u nešto teško opisivo. U svakom slučaju vjerujem da će se muški dio publike zabaviti, ako ne uzme preozbiljno ovaj film. Ja sam se u svakom slučaju dobro nasmijao. E da radi se o crnoj komediji, na kraju sam vidio da je režirao Spike Lee.
Nisam njegov fan, ali ovo je bilo zabavno. Inače "Summer of Sam" mi je njegov naj film.

Kad bi me pitali koji film me najviše "šokirao" u zadnje vrijeme to bi bila ova dva:
She Hate Me
i
The Cabin in the Woods

Očekuješ jedno, dobiješ drugo. :)
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dosada
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 18:20:16  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
stripofil jesi pogledal celu Parkovu "osveta" trilogiju?

razmjena filmova za stripove!
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Caleb
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Posted - 21/01/2013 : 21:00:38  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Visit Caleb's Homepage  Send Caleb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Poli

quote:
Originally posted by Caleb

Jeste li gledali Cloud Atlas? Sta mislite o filmu?



Meni je bio odlican. Dobra fora sa "Mr. Smithom" i relacijom Matrix. Karma i reinkarnacija u filmu. Mozda bi moglo i drugacije sve to prikazati ali i ovako je sasvim dobro.
Odluke su na nama, nikada se ne treba predati, pa cak i u bezazlenoj situaciji, svaka kap koja padne na zemlju se na kraju ponovno nadje u oceanu. Tacka.





I meni je odlican. Mada, gledao sam ga dosta kasno nocu, pa sam se na momente gubio, pauzirao film i razmisljao sta, kako, gde, zasto, ko??
Moracu da ga pogledam ponovo, ali mi se dopalo kako je sve zamisljeno.
Samo, nisam skontao dobro, tj. da li su sve price povezane ili ne? Ona u futuristickom Seulu mi je nekako skroz odvojena, a ?

Preveo: Goran Krickovic, Tekst interpretirali: Ljubiša Bacic, Nada Blam, Miroslav Bijelic, Vlastimir Ðuza Stoiljkovic i Nikola Simic, Magnetoskop: Miroslav Nikolov, Ton majstor: Rihard Merc, Realizacija: Slavko Tatic
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Poli
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Posted - 22/01/2013 : 09:06:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Kako ja vidim, sve je povezano. Kroz prizmu karme i reinkarnacije.



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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 22/01/2013 : 09:29:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Umro je redatelj "Death Wish".


S tportala:






U 77. GODINI

Umro britanski redatelj Michael Winner

Objava: 22. 01. 2013. 08:55

Autor: Hina/tportal.hr


Britanski filmski redatelj i novinski kolumnist Michael Winner umro je u ponedjeljak u svom domu u Londonu u 77. godini, stoji u priopćenju koje je medijima poslala njegova supruga Geraldine

Winner je rođen u Hampsteadu u Londonu 1935. godine. Među ostalim je režirao filmove 'Scorpio' i 'Death Wish'". Pamtit će ga i po ironičnim komentarima o restoranima što ih je pisao za 'The Sunday Times' pod nazivom 'Winner's Dinners'. Poznato je da je Winner već neko vrijeme bio bolestan. Prošlog ljeta izjavio je da su mu liječnici kazali kako mu je preostalo još 18 mjeseci života.

Odajući počast svom suprugu, Geraldine Winnner je u priopćenju navela: 'Michael je bio divan čovjek, sjajan, duhovit i velikodušan. Svjetlost je napustila moj život'.

Karijeru je počeo kao novinar i filmski kritičar prije nego što se pridružio filmskoj kompaniji Motion Pictures Limited kao pisac i montažer 1956. godine. Njegov prvi redateljski uradak bio je satirični film, ali je kasnije postao poznat po akcijskim filmovima, osobito po seriji 'Death Wish u kojoj je glavnu ulogu imao Charles Bronson.

U 50-godišnjoj filmskoj karijeri surađivao je s najvećim hollywoodskim zvijezdama, poput Marlona Branda, Roberta Mitchuma i Fay Dunaway.

Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Posted - 22/01/2013 : 09:33:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Iz The Independenta:



Film director and foodie Michael Winner dies aged 77 after long illness





Matilda Battersby

Monday 21 January 2013

Michael Winner: Film director best known for 'Death Wish' who later became a restaurant critic

Film director, food writer and bon viveur Michael Winner died today aged 77 after a long illness.


Winner was a food critic for the Sunday Times as well as the director of more than 30 films including his famous Death Wish series starring Charles Bronson.

He had been unwell for some time, revealing last summer that specialists had given him 18 months to live due to heart and liver problems - and that he had considered going to a Dignitas assisted-dying clinic in Switzerland.

His wife Geraldine confirmed his death at their home in Kensington today.

Mrs Winner paid tribute to him in a statement: "Michael was a wonderful man, brilliant, funny and generous. A light has gone out in my life."

The pair married nearly two years ago at the Chelsea Register Office after a courtship spanning 50 years.

Geraldine nee Lynton-Edwards met Winner when she auditioned for his debut film in 1957 aged just 16. She was later cast in his short film The Square.

Speaking to The Independent ahead of his wedding in September 2011, Winner revealed he would wear pyjamas to walk down the aisle.

"They are handmade pyjama bottoms by Turnbull & Asser and they are very comfortable. They do actually look like nice tartan trousers," he said.

"It's true that not many people get married in pyjama bottoms but then not many wait 50 years to get married."

Winner credited Geraldine with nursing him through a rare and deadly virus called vibrio vulnificus, which can spread through the body like gangrene.

Winners friends and admirers have been quick to respond to the news of his death tioday.

Actor Cleese paid tribute to his friend in a statement on his website: "He was the dearest, kindest, funniest and most generous of friends. I shall miss him terribly."

Restaurant critic Jay Rayner wrote on Twitter: "RIP Michael Winner. He could be absurd and made some lousy films. But he could also be a rather lovely man. Winner made life more interesting."

Piers Morgan tweeted: "Very sad to hear Michael Winner has died. Hilarious, often proposterous, always generous, highly intelligent man. And terrific writer. RIP."

Andrew Lloyd Webber said: "True originals come rarely in a lifetime. Madeleine and I will deeply miss you. ALW"

Among Winner's contributions to film are the Death Wish films, set in the slums of New York and Los Angeles, the Golden Globe nominated comedy The Jokers, The Nightcomers with Marlon Brando and horror film The Sentinel starring Ava Gardner.

Winner became well known in later life for appearing in the Esure car insurance advertisements with the catchphrase "Calm down, dear!" As an actor he also appeared in Danny Boyle's BBC film For The Greater Good and in Steven Berkoff's film Decadence. He had a hit ITV series called Michael Winner's True Crimes in 1994.

He had a prolific career as a food writer and journalist with his pieces continuing to appear in the Daily Mail up until his illness. His restaurant columns appeared weekly in the Sunday Times for 15 years. He wrote about lifestyle and politics for the now defunct tabloid the News of the World for nearly a decade. From aged 14 he wrote a newspaper column in the Kensington Post called "Michael Winner's Showbiz Gossip". At Cambridge he edited the student newspaper Varsity.

A book of his restaurant columns titled Winner's Dinners was published in 1999 and became a bestseller leading to several follow-ups including The Winner Guide to Whining and Dining and UNBELIEVABLE! My Life in Restaurants and Other Places. He was famously banned from Le Gavroche.

In 1984 Winner founded the Police Memorial Trust charity in tribute to officers slain in the line of duty by placing memorials where they fell. The rights to his wedding to Geraldine were sold to Hello! magazine and the proceeds donated to the PMT. More than 50 officers have been honoured by the trust at sites across the country.

Winner was born in Hampstead in 1935, the son of Helen and George Joseph Winner. His mother was Polish and his father of Russian extraction. He was educated at St Christopher School, Letchworth and Downing College, Cambridge where he studied law and economics.

Winner grew up - and died - in a 46 room Victorian mansion in Kensington which he has bequeathed to the nation. Describing it to The Independent in 2007 he said: "There are nine toilets and seven bathrooms - because I'm a bachelor, I don't need many bedrooms, but you could quite easily have 15 if you wanted to. At the moment, there are three bedrooms in active use - one for the housekeeper, one for me and one for Geraldine in case I snore too much."

Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 07:22:13  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send TORQUE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bacio ovaj mjesec oko na neke novije filmove koje propustih:

Dredd - odlican..ono sto se i ocekuje od takvog stripa..nadam se da ce bit drugi dio i da ce bit jos vise nabijen akcijom..

Alex Cross - smece..

Lockout - nista sto vec nismo brdo puta vidjeli..

Total Recoll - stari film je puno bolji i zabavniji..

Taken 2 - smece..

Killing Them Softly - pokusava bit pametniji nego sto stvarno je..

Killer Joe - glupost..

The Bourne Legacy - smece..

Lawless - iznenadjujuce dobar film i likovi..

The Watch - mindles zabava za obitelj..

Django Unchained - predugacak..krivi izbor glumca za djanga(ali opet bolji od smith-a) i krivi izbot muzike(samo rap-a) sve ostalo je bilo super.

Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing,
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before..
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 15:16:58  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dosada

stripofil jesi pogledal celu Parkovu "osveta" trilogiju?



Nisam, za sada sam pogledao samo Oldboy iz trilogije.
Ali imam ih na popisu.

Chinjeolhan geumjassi i Boksuneun naui geot.
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Posted - 23/01/2013 : 15:20:40  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send dosada a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stripofil

quote:
Originally posted by dosada

stripofil jesi pogledal celu Parkovu "osveta" trilogiju?



Nisam, za sada sam pogledao samo Oldboy iz trilogije.
Ali imam ih na popisu.

Chinjeolhan geumjassi i Boksuneun naui geot.



pogledaj, za mrvu su slabiji...a ako su za mrvu slabiji od Oldboya onda znaš koliko valjaju

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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 09:34:47  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ovo zvuči jako dobro i puno obećava!


S Indexa:


Odabran redatelj novog nastavka "Ratova zvijezda"

Redatelj novog nastavka "Ratova zvijezda" navodno će biti J. J. Abrams

Piše: I. Ko.

Objavljeno prije sat vremena

DISNEYJEV izbor za redatelja filmova iz franšize koju su otkupili od Georgea Lucasa nimalo ne iznenađuje.

Oni su navodno za taj zadatak odabrali J.J. Abramsa koji potpisuje posljednje filmove "Zvjezdanih staza": "To je gotova stvar s J. J.-jem, sve je dogovoreno", pojasnio je neimenovani izvor za Deadline.

Isti je izvor ispričao da je za to mjesto bio razmatran i Ben Affleck.

Sedmi dio sage očekuje se 2015. godine, a bit će to prvi film iz serije nakon 2005. i Lucasovih "Ratova zvijezda III: Osveta Sitha". Scenarij piše Michael Arndt, scenarist "Igara gladi", "Priče o igračkama" i "Male Miss Amerike".


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stripofil
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:25:02  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send stripofil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nekada sam imao velika očekivanja od J.J. Abramsa, ali nakon zadnjih par filmova ta su očekivanja poprilično splasnula.
Super 8, ništa posebno, gledljivo i na momente zabavno, ali uglavnom zabava za klince.
StarTrek 2009, koliko god ih hvalili meni nisu ništa posebno, dječji vrtić zapakiran u SF klasik. O imbecilnom lens flare efektu ne znam što bi rekao, mislio sam da mi je sheban BR. Što im je to trebalo??
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 25/01/2013 : 11:34:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Johnny Difool a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slažem se za Star Trek, ali meni je Super 8 prilično dobar, ponajviše kao posveta Spielbergu i filmovima 80-ih, a i napravljen je kao da dolazi iz tog vremena.

I njegova MI III mi je jako dobra.

Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite,
i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti...
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