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PijaniPatak
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PijaniPatak
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bubo
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mpavin
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Niue
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 14:33:39
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"Pobednici prošlogodišnjeg konkursa, Schepisi, Juhas i Dante, za potvrdu ispravnosti izbora, su danas veoma cenjeni umetnici i svakom od njih je ponuđena saradnja sa nekom od izdavačkih kuća."
Je li neko zna koje izdavačke kuće su ponudile suradnju lanjskim pobjednicima? |
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Poli
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King Warrior
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 15:11:19
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ko god je na ZTN neka u grupi A glasa za duplog...majstora ce da siebe onaj plagijat od naslovnice br.9
Iako mi, objektivno gledajuci, nasi nisu bili u top 6, zasao sam redom i glasao za nase takmicare. |
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 15:39:28
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
Ovaj Dante "radi" na Texu.
Sa SBE: Dante Spada, disegnatore, ha realizzato: Tex nn. 563, 564.
Ne, to nije taj. Onaj lik se zove Alex Dante. |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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MisterYES
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Poli
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 16:27:41
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor12
Ne, to nije taj. Onaj lik se zove Alex Dante.
Ups, znaci nista od koristi. 
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Anything is possible dec d uej Be the Change You Want to See
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tinton
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 16:51:41
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pa šta nije da je attili nešto ponuđeno, bila je neka priča na forumu |
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D.J.
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tinton
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:13:25
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drži, možda ako su negdje neodlučni uzmu to u obzir - ja bar mislim |
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:30:00
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quote: Originally posted by D.J.
Koja je vaznost ovog ZTN glasanja? Mislim koju tezinu ima? Zar zadnju rijec ne drzi ziri kao prosle godine?
Žiri odlučuje koje su tri najbolje naslovnice i njima idu već poznate nagrade.
Ovo šta radi ZTN je neka vrsta specijalne nagrade-tzv. nagrada publike. Nisam siguran da li se bira jedna, tri ili pet naslovnica (pobrkalo mi se sve to) ali pobednik-pobednici bi trebali biti nagrađeni sa po primerkom najnovijeg Zagorovog giganta sa potpisima autora. Za proglasenje pobednika ZTN polla ce se sacekati prvo odluka zirija jer te tri naslovnice ne mogu biti nagradjene i od strane publike.
Zamislili su to tako da ove godine bude vise pobednika nego prosle. |
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tinton
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:49:08
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Što se domaćih tiče - bisley - njegova naslovnica je uz tešku konkureciju ipak najbolja za mene - Ricova upada u top 5 iako mi je dugo držala prvo mijesto ali kad sam ponovno sve pogledao je pala, ako se to može tako nazvati. Odlične su i Duplijeva i MisterYesova, ali jednostavno ima i boljih i nisu upale za mene u uži krug. Još su mi u redu Alextsova, Mimijeva i Tontova, a ostale mi se ne sviđaju bez ikakve uvrede ikome dakle po meni bi poredak na kraju trebao biti ovakav:
1. bisley Il Luongo Adio 2. Luca Giorgi Dal Profondo 3. Dante Atraverso lo Specchio 4. Silvia Belli Partija sa Smrću 5. Ricov Jack Rasparač
Dupli, još jedna partija sa smrću. MisterYes i još neki također razbijaju ali na žalost top pet je top pet
na žalost, znam da se žiri s ovom odlukom neće složiti, ali baš me briga kad znam da sam u pravu    |
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MisterYES
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 18:51:58
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
quote: Originally posted by D.J.
Koja je vaznost ovog ZTN glasanja? Mislim koju tezinu ima? Zar zadnju rijec ne drzi ziri kao prosle godine?
Žiri odlučuje koje su tri najbolje naslovnice i njima idu već poznate nagrade.
Ovo šta radi ZTN je neka vrsta specijalne nagrade-tzv. nagrada publike. Nisam siguran da li se bira jedna, tri ili pet naslovnica (pobrkalo mi se sve to) ali pobednik-pobednici bi trebali biti nagrađeni sa po primerkom najnovijeg Zagorovog giganta sa potpisima autora. Za proglasenje pobednika ZTN polla ce se sacekati prvo odluka zirija jer te tri naslovnice ne mogu biti nagradjene i od strane publike.
Zamislili su to tako da ove godine bude vise pobednika nego prosle.
Ja sam kontao da će sveukupno biti 5 nagrada. 3 standardne plus dvije dodatne - i da ce svih tih ukupnih 5 bili izlagane u galeriji. (the first five (5) selected will be given the opportunity to display the winning andfour other works at the CArt Gallery in Rome)
Nisam upratio da postoje posebni načini odabira za razlicite tipove nagrada. Bar nigdje nije istaknuto. Po logici mi se ucinilo da se za sve nagrade podjednako sumira i glas zirija i ovi ostali nacini. (Three winnerswill be chosen by the jury) - a žiri u totalu uključuje sve zajedno; ZTN forum i fan base i pomenute ljude.
Mada konkretno mislim da je ovo na ZTN forumu totalno dodatna stvar. Djeluje mi poštenije da sva relevantna glasanja ne idu javno zapravo. Za Zagora (mozda nisam upratio) se nista nije moglo javno pratiti, a bilo je takodje više aspekata mimo zirija.
Po ovoj logici bi onda i ona baza fanova DD trebala negdje javno istupiti sa svojim nacinom glasanja. |
Edited by - MisterYES on 27/05/2013 19:04:12 |
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PijaniPatak
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PijaniPatak
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MisterYES
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 19:16:30
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Definitivno ovaj pool na ZTN nema nikakvog uticaja na žiri uopšte ili efekta na izbor pobjednika. Potvrdio Marco ;) Čisto neka njihova interna stvar malo da ubiju vrijeme
Kaže i ovako; 5 prvih ukupno ce izlagati u galeriji. 3 od tih 5 ce takodje dobiti one 3 prve nagrade (W&N crtaći pribor). Samo za 2 dodatna najbolja lokalna autora iz tog grada ce dobiti neke male dodatne nagrade. Vjerovatno su to one potpisane epizode itd.
Sve to uglavnom očito odlučuje žiri sastavljen od svega pomenutog i ništa neće biti javno u smislu načina glasanja i odabira. Sasvim OK.
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Edited by - MisterYES on 27/05/2013 19:24:12 |
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 19:24:55
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
Što se domaćih tiče - bisley - njegova naslovnica je uz tešku konkureciju ipak najbolja za mene - Ricova upada u top 5 iako mi je dugo držala prvo mijesto ali kad sam ponovno sve pogledao je pala, ako se to može tako nazvati. Odlične su i Duplijeva i MisterYesova, ali jednostavno ima i boljih i nisu upale za mene u uži krug. Još su mi u redu Alextsova, Mimijeva i Tontova, a ostale mi se ne sviđaju bez ikakve uvrede ikome...
Dupli, još jedna partija sa smrću. MisterYes i još neki također razbijaju ali na žalost top pet je top pet
na žalost, znam da se žiri s ovom odlukom neće složiti, ali baš me briga kad znam da sam u pravu   
Ne znam...Ja gledam naslovnice po kriterijumu "kako bi izgledalo da je u stampanom izdanju, na kiosku" i po tome su mi mnoge naslovnice odmah "pale u vodu" MisterYES-ova naslovnica po mnogo čemu tuče ostale italijanske...Da ne pričam o tome da mi se sami Dylan više sviđa od veeeeelike većine. Ako je iko od nas ovde zaslužio da bude u top3, to je on |
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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 19:26:25
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quote: Originally posted by MisterYES
Definitivno ovaj pool na ZTN nema nikakvog uticaja na žiri uopšte ili efekta na izbor pobjednika. Potvrdio Marco ;) Čisto neka njihova interna stvar malo da ubiju vrijeme
Kaže i ovako; 5 prvih ukupno ce izlagati u galeriji. 3 od tih 5 ce takodje dobiti one 3 prve nagrade (W&N crtaći pribor). Samo za 2 dodatna najbolja lokalna autora iz tog grada ce dobiti neke male dodatne nagrade. Vjerovatno su to one potpisane epizode itd.
Sve to uglavnom očito odlučuje žiri sastavljen od svega pomenutog i ništa neće biti javno u smislu načina glasanja i odabira. Sasvim OK.
Ok, sad vidim i ja tamo na forumu da je takva priča |
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tinton
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 19:48:47
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
quote: Originally posted by tinton
Što se domaćih tiče - bisley - njegova naslovnica je uz tešku konkureciju ipak najbolja za mene - Ricova upada u top 5 iako mi je dugo držala prvo mijesto ali kad sam ponovno sve pogledao je pala, ako se to može tako nazvati. Odlične su i Duplijeva i MisterYesova, ali jednostavno ima i boljih i nisu upale za mene u uži krug. Još su mi u redu Alextsova, Mimijeva i Tontova, a ostale mi se ne sviđaju bez ikakve uvrede ikome...
Dupli, još jedna partija sa smrću. MisterYes i još neki također razbijaju ali na žalost top pet je top pet
na žalost, znam da se žiri s ovom odlukom neće složiti, ali baš me briga kad znam da sam u pravu   
Ne znam...Ja gledam naslovnice po kriterijumu "kako bi izgledalo da je u stampanom izdanju, na kiosku" i po tome su mi mnoge naslovnice odmah "pale u vodu" MisterYES-ova naslovnica po mnogo čemu tuče ostale italijanske...Da ne pričam o tome da mi se sami Dylan više sviđa od veeeeelike većine. Ako je iko od nas ovde zaslužio da bude u top3, to je on
MisterYes ja rekao odlična, ali nikako bolja od Ricove i bisleyeve od domaćih i od ovih nabrojanih, volio bih da se dijeli nagrada prvih deset ali znam da je to nemoguće, MisterYesova zasl7užuje prvu nagradu za trud jer ej sveukupno napravio mali milijun naslovnica i onda us mu neke otpale - odličnba nalsovnica ali jednostavno ne za prvih pet |
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MisterYES
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 20:41:00
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Hvala vam svakako. I za podršku ili za ne. Jedan od mojih rezona je bio da ne idem na to da uzmem postojecu naslovnu pa je eventualno probam tehnicki bolje uraditi, ili joj dati drugu atmosferu te eventualno fakticki samo postojecu scenu prikazati iz drugog ugla "kamere". Tako sam svakako rezonovao na Zagoru, i jednom je dovoljno. Ovaj put tražio sam komplet drugu situaciju u epizodi koja (po mom subjektivnom sudu naravno) možda bolje leži konceptu naslovnice upravo posmatrane iz ugla nekoga ko je vidi prvi put na kiosku i ista treba da ga zaintrigira. Taj rezon "pogled iz kupčeve perspektive na kiosku" i jeste garantovano prva stvar koja se uzima u obzir i vodeci nacin razmisljanja onih koji, da tako kazemo, zive od rada na naslovnicama.
Naravno da ne očekujem da taj isti recept žiri vrednuje nesto specijalno, jer se vidi da je upravo ovaj rezon kojeg sam prvog pomenuo, odnio 1st mjesto na Zagoru svakako. Maltene ista scena samo više slikarski urađena (a i moja je bila takva). Čini mi se da je i ove godine taj autor išao istom logikom. Ja sam odlučio drugacije čisto jer mi nije bilo interesantno da ponavljam princip. Ne mislim nuzno samim time da ova Morgana ima taj "kiosk friendly-na prvu dojam" dobar kao neke prilozene; ali bih ipak se ogradio od pretjeranog komentarisanja drugih ili izdvajanja ličnih favorita generalno. |
Edited by - MisterYES on 27/05/2013 20:55:33 |
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