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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 21:06:29
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Meni se ta filozofija "ista scena samo je kamerman čučnuo" nikada nije sviđala jer preferiram videti dah originalnosti na nekome ko pokušava da se preko ovakvih prilika iskaže. Crtež ne čini samo dobra olovka već i crtač kao njegov tvorac, neki njegov lični pečat. Zato si mi ti jedan od 5-orice favorita sa ovom Morganom.
Tom filozofijom sam i ja pokušao doći do kakvog-takvog rezultata. Niko u pozi fetusa je trebao da bude odraz njegovog očaja, depresivnosti koja se kreće oko tog lika (a računao sam na to da čitalac zna koliko je Niko u epizodi moćan entitet, tvorac glavom i bradom). Dylan Dog je u pasivnom stavu. Drži pištolj kojim bi trebao da "overi" Nikoga ali nije to u stanju jer je poput čitaoca svestan koliko je ovaj u isto vreme i krvnik i žrtva sebe samoga. Iza Dylana trebao je da šeće red zombija, kao u originalnoj Morgani, sa sastavom: živa pojedena supruga, njen ljubanik sa sve kukom u oku i raspolućenim telom, bradata skitnica sa početka i kraja epizode te barka na nebu sa jedne i knjiga "what a mad univerce" sa druge. To sve je trebalo da čini čuvenu sedmicu, 4+3.
Ali, pošto bi to naslovnicu odradilo previše dinamičnom, a epizoda je sama po sebi sva statična i melanholična, pobrisao sam sve te elemente, samo ostavio i apstrahovao galiju kao podsvesnu poveznicu sa Morganom. Sneg, obrisi kapele i groblja, tamno-plava površina, jednoličnost su trebali da služe karakterizaciji naslovnog lika. Svet oko njega je hladan, prazan, apstraktan, a on u njemu nepopravljivo bespomoćan.
Žao mi je samo što ne crtam bolje pa da to pristojno odradim. Vidim da tamo nije napravila nekog bitnog odjeka. |
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Edited by - PijaniPatak on 27/05/2013 21:16:45 |
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Torghal
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Croatia
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 21:08:53
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quote: Originally posted by MisterYES
quote: Originally posted by Torghal
Kad ce se znat pobjednik?
Nekad u tri dana od 7. do 9. Juna. Ništa preciznije.
Ja sam se nada da ce bit prije.Ali neka,bolje da ziri ima vise vremena,valjda ce onda donit i postenu odluku.Malo san pogleda proslogodisnje radove,ove godine su radovi puno bolji i samim time konkurencija je puno teza tako da stvarno nece bit lako ziriju.Ima stvarno dosta odlicnih radova.Sretno svima nasima i nadan se da ce bar jedan bit medju nagradjenima. |
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MisterYES
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 27/05/2013 : 21:22:56
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@Patak: svaka naslovna ima segmenata (necu, još, reci grešaka) koji su mogli biti bolji. Ni moja nije nikakav izuzetak. A niti su izuzetak one profesionalne čak. Jedino sto razdvaja ove naslovne od tih profesionalnih je sto na vecini ovih te "greške" komplet sve ruše pa da gledalac "proguta" rad kao zaista pravu mogucu DD naslovnu. Kod profesionalnih, "greške" su u tom smislu rijeci cak nekad mozda i teze ali su iskustvom naucili da ih prikriju i da komplet stvar fercera. Stvar sume i drveca. U njih pokoje drvo ne sljaka ali je šuma-šuma. U nas se zbog par grana komplet suma nakrivila :) A treba opet gledati rad i kroz kontekst Cover Reloaded, iako je znacenje jedno, ne tumacimo isto svi samu rijec "reloaded" i od toga zavise pristupi kako autora tako zirija i publike.
Medjutim, ima dobar broj radova i ovdje koji su u dobroj mjeri takvi da i uz "nedostatke" kao paket dobro dišu, bilo da su "reciklirana" scena ili nova situacija. Tako da cu citirati Torghala: " Sretno svima našima" zaista ;) |
Edited by - MisterYES on 27/05/2013 22:50:56 |
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bubo
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MisterYES
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Posted - 28/05/2013 : 15:04:41
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Što više kontam, sam sebi kao najveću grešku nalazim to što sam nekako uspio crtež napraviti izrazito osjetljiv na facebookovo "žvakanje" kvaliteta slike. Evo linkovi za uporedbu.
Original: http://i.imgur.com/Id4hlG6.jpg Facebook: http://i.imgur.com/wwDD2pz.jpg
Ovakav kao sa facebooka se nadalje pojavljuje na svim forumima i nadam se da će žiri ipak dobiti ovaj oštriji file.
Vjerovatno su svi radovi isto prošli i ne znam, mozda je sugestivno (jer nemam tuđe original fileove) ali mi se cini da se na mom baš štošta uništilo i progutalo zbog ovog "tretmana". Zadao sam sebi u zadatak da ubuduce pokusam crtati tako i tako stil usmjeravati da i pored ovakvih "filtera" kao cijelina ne smije da izgubi koliko je to ovdje slučaj. Da li je to do pastelnih boja, ili tankih linija perom...moram otkriti i eliminisati to koliko je moguće.
Evo nekoliko detalja sa tiff filea za štampu, kada se zumira, mada ni ovo nije na max 1:1 actual size: http://i.imgur.com/TPH0bvO.jpg - sjaj u očima se totalno izgubio http://i.imgur.com/FmOPQfR.jpg - sjaj na noktu takodje se ne vidi http://i.imgur.com/ux12pUE.jpg - pero je umrljano tušem na vrhu http://i.imgur.com/VznmcFt.jpg - crtež na stolu je jednako oštar kao i original scena
Naravno da su to nevazni detalji, isticem prosto da su tu ipak, a ne vide se na koncu - govorim o "facebook verziji" naravno :) |
Edited by - MisterYES on 28/05/2013 15:14:22 |
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PijaniPatak
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Deers
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Croatia
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Posted - 28/05/2013 : 16:44:11
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quote: Originally posted by MisterYES
... Ovakav kao sa facebooka se nadalje pojavljuje na svim forumima i nadam se da će žiri ipak dobiti ovaj oštriji file. ...
Ne brini, rekli su već da će žiri dobit originalne fajlove. |
"Trzaj mišica i nad prazninom sam." |
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D.J.
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D.J.
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alexts
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Serbia
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MisterYES
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 00:04:21
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quote: Originally posted by PijaniPatak
Ja sam to izbegao. Mislim da je kod fb problem sa zutim nijansama-ili ih pojačava ili ih smanjuje. EDIT: nisam imao problema sa detaljima jer se oko detalja nisam toliko ni brinuo. Generalno me je brinulo fb nijansiranje
Dobro si to upratio i hvala za info. Ja se jesam igrao na kraju naravno sa filterima, saturacijom, Hue itd, i generalno ima tu dosta takoreći diskretne žućkaste nijanse i moguce da je odatle proizašla ovakva distorzija slike kod mene. |
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dupli
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Croatia
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 09:03:26
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Ako će se žiri držati propozicija natječaja: Contestants will reinterpret past covers with a fresher approach. On the basis of their own artistic sensitivity, they are asked to review the dynamic, dramatic and epic aspects of a chosen cover, showing the ability of studying the character in depth, in full respect of the philosophy that lies behind the series. Therefore, the drawing will not be just a mere copy of the original cover, but a creative new version.
mnogi "favoriti" bi trebali odmah otpasti. Pobjednici od prošle godine su točno zadovoljavali ove propozicije. Čak je i attila koji je otišao najdalje od originala na svojoj naslovnici imao sve aspekte originalne naslovnice.
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Rico
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PijaniPatak
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Zagor12
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emirem
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 19:02:19
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Opa...sretno ljudi ja mislio da cu biti u grupi E.... Bitno je sudjelovati... Samo se tjesim... |
"Kompromisi u kolekcionarstvu su one stvari koje ce ti omoguciti da dozivis starost sa pozamasnom ustedjevinom!" |
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PijaniPatak
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tinton
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 19:09:24
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dobro prošli su Rico, Bisley i Dante a ispali druga dav moja favorita ali nema veze jer je ovo bezvrijedno |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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IGMAN2
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 19:50:57
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Zar da Duplog nema
Usput, Patak, uz Renkya i Nikšića, nisi stavio ni rad Milivoja Kostića (136). Bobana je talijanka, a? |
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mpavin
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Niue
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 20:22:31
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Renky s onim radom najbolji u grupi C na račun domaćih glasova(koji su se registrirali jučer) pored ona druga 2 genijalna rada. Koja smijurija  A još je više smješnije da glasa više domaćih nego Talijana tamo. |
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tinton
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 20:38:17
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meni je samo čudno što su naši, kad več glasaju za naše, izabrali bubu (bez ikakve u vrede) pored jednog bisleya koji je po meni napravio najbolju naslovnicu ali svako ima svoj ukus bez obzira što je moj najlogičniji |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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going going
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Serbia
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 20:43:50
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Patak a gde si ti?
Mislim tvoja naslovna strana nije prosla na ZTN forumu? Steta... Bas si lepo prikazao tvoje vidjenje price
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Rico
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Zagor12
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 21:05:59
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quote: Originally posted by Rico
Drugari, aj nemojte vise za mene glasovati, radje izgubiti nego da nam nekom sere.
Pa tvoja naslovnica je baš super. |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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tinton
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 21:07:42
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mislim da za tebe Rico niko nije glasao jer si Hrvat, možda netko, jer tvoja nasloovnica je kako sam rekao svakako u prvih pet sad sam se čak predomislio pa mi je i draža od one partije sa smrti tako da si za mene četvrti |
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