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Mr. Bushido
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cerichus
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Posted - 18/04/2013 : 15:36:09
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Cool! Jedno pitanjce- je li, pored tv serije,postojao i strip i da li je ikada objavljivan na ex- Yu prostorima? |
Elvis has just left the building! |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 18/04/2013 : 16:01:24
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Yup, manirizam je postao ozbiljan i prilično otegotan Deppov problem. Ipak, nadam se dobroj zabavi, recimo na razini Ranga. Bude li tako - puna šaka brade. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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tinton
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Posted - 18/04/2013 : 18:25:17
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quote: Originally posted by cerichus
Cool! Jedno pitanjce- je li, pored tv serije,postojao i strip i da li je ikada objavljivan na ex- Yu prostorima?
strip postoji, za objavljivanjena našim područjima nisam čuo |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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Darth Ivan
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Posted - 19/04/2013 : 01:44:38
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quote: Originally posted by Tutta
Bacam mi na Jack Sparrowa u indijanskom kostimu.
imam dojam da će takav i bit.
ko Jack Sparrow, al bjelcato našminkan   |
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Mr. Bushido
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Johnny Difool
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Nakon što su u izuzetno popularnom serijalu „Pirati s Kariba“ dali bizarnu i zabavnu posvetu žanru klasičnog pustolovnog filma, te u vrlo uspjelom „crtiću“ „Rango“ isto napravili s vesternom, redatelj Gore Verbinski, među ostalim potpisnik solidnog humornog krimića „Meksikanac“ i sasvim korektnog prepravka horora „Krug“ Hidea Nakate, i najveća glumačka zvijezda današnjice Johnny Depp odlučili su ponovo udružiti snage. I ovaj put se poigravaju žanrom vesterna, njegovim tematskim, stilskim, scenografskim i ikonografskim obilježjima koja provlače kroz postmodernistički križanac najrazličitijih utjecaja, od ironiziranja postulata samog žanra preko stripa i animiranog filma do burleske i komedije apsurda. Kao protagonist priče odabran je u američkoj popularnoj kulturi dugovječan i tijekom proteklih desetljeća višekratno mahom uspješno eksploatiran lik maskiranog teksaškog rendžera koji se pred publikom prvi put pojavio 1933. godine u radijskom serijalu „The Lone Ranger“ na radijskoj postaji WXYZ, serijalu koji je potrajao čitavih 2956 epizoda i ostvario iznimnu slušanost.
Zahvaljujući tome, „Osamljeni rendžer“ je pet godina kasnije zaživio i u filmskom serijalu od 15 18-minutnih epizoda u kojima je naslovnog junaka tumačio Lee Powell, a potom i godinu kasnije u također 15-dijelnom serijalu „The Lone Ranger Rides Again“ s Robertom Livingstonom u glavnoj ulozi. Osim u serijalu od 19 romana autora Gaylorda Duboisa objavljivanih između 1936. i 1956. godine, „The Lone Ranger“ je 1938. doživio i strip-ediciju u okrilju kuće King Features Syndicate i u suautorstvu Frana Strikera, Boba Greena i Paula S. Newmana, te ponovo 1981. kad je New York Times Syndicate pokrenuo novu ediciju koja je potrajala do 1984., a koju su radili scenarist Cary Bates i crtač Russ Heath.
Pustolovine osamljenog rendžera tu ne završavaju, jer je tu i televizijski serijal postaje ABC koji se emitirao od 1949. do 1957. godine, a u kojem su netipičnog junaka interpretirali Clayton Moore i Jay Silverheels, pa filmovi „The Lone Ranger“ Stuarta Heislera iz 1956. s također Mooreom u glavnoj roli, potom „The Lone Ranger and the Lost City of Gold“ Lesleya Selandera iz 1958. s opet Mooreom, kao i „The Legend of Lone Ranger“ Williama A. Frakera iz 1981. s Klintonom Spilsburyjem kao protagonistom. Prethodna ekranizacija priče o osamljenom osvetniku datira iz 2003. godine, kad je snimljen TV-film Jacka Bendera s Chadom Michaelom Murrayem u glavnoj roli. Napokon, sad je pred nama projekt trojca Bruckheimer – Verbinski – Depp, dosad najambicioznija adaptacija priče o osamljenom osvetniku koja, kako to već biva s današnjim holivudskim projektima hitoidnog potencijala koji bi se mogli pretvoriti u franšizu, kreće od početka, naslovni lik zatječe u njegovoj predherojskoj fazi i vjerno se pridržava lika kakvim je on pod očitim utjecajem Cervantesova „Don Quijotea“ izvorno i zamišljen prije osam desetljeća.
Dok mještani jednog grada na Divljem zapadu, sredine u kojoj zakon formalno štiti odvažni Dan Reid (James Badge Dale) a kojom zapravo vlada bogati poduzetnik Cole (Tom Wilkinson) slave dolazak željeznice, prema gradu vlakom putuje mladi John Reid (Armie Hammer), Danov brat i novi okružni tužitelj koji mora preuzeti dužnost. No u vagonu za zatočenike su okrutni ubojica Butch Cavendish (William Fichtner), kojem će netko izvana pomoći u pokušaju bijega, i slikoviti Indijanac Tonto (Johnny Depp), koji će u susretu s Cavendishem umalo izgubiti glavu. Nakon što Cavendish pobjegne a John stigne u grad, za bjeguncem će krenuti potjera predvođena Danom u kojoj je i John. Kad ubrzo postanu žrtvama izdaje, u borbi protiv Cavendisha i njegovih ljudi izginut će svi osim Johna, kojeg će ubojice zabunom smatrati mrtvim te kojem će Dan pred smrt povjeriti skrb o svojoj supruzi Rebecci (Ruth Wilson) i njihovom sinčiću Dannyju (Bryant Prince).
Dakako, ranjenog Johna će pronaći upravo Tonto koji će ga isprva htjeti i sahraniti, sve dok ga od toga ne odgovori prema njegovu vjerovanju čudesni bijeli konj. Kao slučajni partneri i u pratnji vrlo inteligentnog konja, John i Tonto će krenuti u potragu za bestijalnim Cavendishem koji je pojeo Danovo srce i kojeg s nekim mještanima grada povezuju tajne ali čvrste veze. Neobični će dvojac dospjeti u zatočeništvo Komanča, gdje će se otkriti Tontova tragična prošlost, potom će biti zakopani u zemlju i prepušteni mravima, te naposljetku shvatiti da je u tijeku velika spletka i da su životi Rebecce i Danyja u velikoj opasnosti. A da sve bude zanimljivije, John je već godinama zaljubljen u Rebeccu, a ni ona prema njemu nije sasvim ravnodušna.
„Usamljeni osvetnik“ pikarski je vestern u čijem su stvaranju autori u baratanju žanrovskim kanonima vesterna odabrali podjednako onaj klasični kao i špageti-vestern. Varijacije žanra lako će prepoznati i površniji filmofili, baš kao i uglavnom duhovito poigravanje mitotvornim ikonografskim obilježjima žanra, jer je sve na broju. Tu je nesigurni protagonist koji će se od prvotnog plašljivca postupno prometnuti u punokrvnog junaka, potom srčana ljepotica u koju je potajno zaljubljen i zbog koje će biti spreman riskirati i vlastiti život, pa variranje arhetipskih situacija s pokvarenim gradskim moćnikom koji želi zavladati čitavim krajem, i umjereno nostalgičan žal za tradicijom koja neumoljivo nestaje pred progresom i civilizacijom, kao i glazba Hansa Zimmera koja efektno pastišira prepoznatljive akorde, te sva očekivana ikonografija od konja i šešira do opasača s revolverima i obračunima.
Pored dinamične naracije i u završnici spektakularne akcije koja gledatelje ostavlja bez daha, tu su i fascinantna fotografija Bojana Bazellija („Krug“, „Lak za kosu“) s prezasićenim zrakom koji titra od jare i prašine, najvećim dijelom impresivni specijalni efekti s ipak suvišnim gomilanjem pirotehnike pred kraj, nenametljive i efektne stilizacije, iznimno precizna i razigrana režija koja tijekom posljednjih pola sata maestralno orkestrira veliki broj paralelnih zbivanja, te dakako odlični glumački nastupi. Predvidljivo, Tonto u izvedbi Johnnyja Deppa je indijanska verzija kapetana Jacka Sparrowa, pomaknuti lik sa svim vrlinama i manama koje je posjedovao i Sparrow, a Armie Hammer („Društvena mreža“, „J. Edgar“, „Snjeguljica“) kao nevoljni budući junak figurira kao svojevrsna zamjena za već prestarog Brendana Frasera. U sporednim su rolama izvrsni karakterni glumac Tom Wilkinson („U zamci“, „Michael Clayton“) i William Fichtner („Pad Crnog jastreba“, „Vitez tame“), što su dodatni razlozi za uživanje u ovom izuzetno zabavnom i šarmantnom filmu.
Naposljetku, legitimno je upitati se koja je ciljana publika ovog filma, jer je ponajprije riječ o vesternu koji u kinima za razliku od TV-a više ne prolazi tako dobro, kao i o djelu u kojem se red klasične pustolovine „veće od života“ izmjenjuje s redom humora, nakon čega slijedi red tragike s čak i makabričnim implicitnim prizorima jedenja ljudskog srca, a sve je na kraju začinjeno notom romanse. Nadam se da će vrlo dobar i izuzetno zabavan film ostvariti komercijalni uspjeh i što prije dobiti nastavak.
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Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
Edited by - Johnny Difool on 04/07/2013 08:44:45 |
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Luca_Torelli
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nemanja93
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 21:47:35
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Ocekujem dobru zabavu pa sta bude nek bude. Johnny ako mozes da smanjis sliku razvuce topic. |
Nisi se okrenula, zato nisi videla igrale su sene.
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 22:48:18
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Smanjeno, makar mi je ovako manje atraktivno.
@ Luca_Torelli
Dajem mu negdje između 7 i 8, recimo 7,5, makar je toliko zabavan, brz i šašav da bih mu mogao dati i 8. Tu je i slikoviti sporedni lik ekscentrične vlasnice bordela koju glumi Helena Bonham Carter, a koja (sasvim logično) kao da je stigla iz nekog filma Tima Burtona. Meni zasad najbolji ljetni hit koji ću s guštom pogledati još koji put. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 23:26:19
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Stvar je u tome što se priču ne smije shvatiti ozbiljno, jer ako je se tako shvati onda je uglavnom nelogična, sasvim predvidljiva i manje-više besmislena. Ali ako je se uzme kao otkačenu zabavu i zajebanciju s puno (auto)ironije, onda funkcionira dosta dobro. Barem je samnom bio takav slučaj. Onoga kome su se svidjeli Pirati s Kariba i ovo bi trebalo zabaviti, jer je uglavnom sve tu negdje, samo u žanru vesterna. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 03/07/2013 : 23:52:42
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meni je od "Pirata s Kariba" bio odličan samo prvi dio. četvrtog nisam gledao, al ova ostala dva nastavka nisu ništa više od prosjeka.
sad, ne znam jel ciljaš na "onome kome su se svidjeli svi filmovi iz sage" ili "barem jedan". |
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Posted - 04/07/2013 : 00:06:15
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Da, što se pojedinačnih filmova tiče mislim na prvi, a šire gledano na čitav koncept serijala, u smislu križanja svega i svačega. Makar meni i u dvojci i u trojci ima prilično dobrih detalja, recimo ono masovno vješanje i žena i klinca na početku trećeg dijela. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 04/07/2013 : 01:36:26
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Prvi Pirati su odlični. Vrh filmske avanture novijeg doba. Drugi su čisto sranje. Treći su mrvicu bolji od drugih, ali i dalje smeće. Četvrti su gledljivi, no ni blizu prvih. |
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Luca_Torelli
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Posted - 04/07/2013 : 07:31:31
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quote: Originally posted by Johnny Difool
Dajem mu negdje između 7 i 8, recimo 7,5, makar je toliko zabavan, brz i šašav da bih mu mogao dati i 8. Tu je i slikoviti sporedni lik ekscentrične vlasnice bordela koju glumi Helena Bonham Carter, a koja (sasvim logično) kao da je stigla iz nekog filma Tima Burtona. Meni zasad najbolji ljetni hit koji ću s guštom pogledati još koji put.
Sličan sam dojam dobio gledajući trailer. LR definitivno gledam u kinu! Hvala na preporuci! |
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Johnny Difool
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Posted - 04/07/2013 : 08:43:22
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Nema na čemu! 
Naravno da ima hrpa pretjerivanja i koječega, ali sve funkcionira vrlo skladno. |
Ja necu imati s kim ostati mlad ako svi ostarite, i ta ce mi mladost teško pasti... |
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Posted - 07/07/2013 : 20:16:57
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Jučer sam ga gledao. Nije loš, onako za zabavu i mozak na pašu. Ne treba previše očekivati. Pirat s Kariba preslikan na Divlji Zapad. |
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Posted - 16/07/2013 : 12:19:30
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jučer sam ga gledao.....
Meni nije nešto posebno, prije bi rekao da mi je glup nego dobar....ima svoje momente ali sada kada sam ga video, n ebi ga više nikada išao gledati, ni da ga puštaju po tv..... Šteta što stvarno ne naprave neki Western, slično kao Dances with Wolves, Alamo (1960), the Good The bad and the Ugly,....a ne da bacaju novac na ovakve gluposti, koje su za djecu od 10-12 godina.... |
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