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star-duster
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Serbia
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 12:28:30
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Septembar je već za dvadesetak dana. Možemo li da se nadamo Grejstormu do tada? Hajde, vreme je. Colte, izbaci sve preostale epizode odjednom. Videćeš kako će odmah skočiti i prodaja ranijih epizoda jer ima ljudi koji čekaju da se završi serijal da bi ga kupili. |
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Colt
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3298 Posts
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 13:04:27
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Radimo na tome... u pogledu prodaje, tako su ljudi rekli i nakon 5 i 6 pa nastavke kupilo po 70 ljudi. Da ne pominjem kako su ljudi na pomen Sigme i Krvne linije krenuli sa "Bravo, uzimam, fantasticno, jedva cekam" komentarima pa na kraju uzelo njih 50-60. |
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Imrahil
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Serbia
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brko17
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Croatia
387 Posts
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 13:25:28
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Imam sve nastavke Greystorma za sada i jedva cekam zadnja cetiri da zavrsim pricu. Takodjer posjedujem i Sigmu i Krvnu liniju, kao i Batman YO. Izdanja su super, podrzao sam vas kupovinom i nadam se da cete ustrajati. |
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 16:49:09
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quote: Originally posted by Colt
Radimo na tome... u pogledu prodaje, tako su ljudi rekli i nakon 5 i 6 pa nastavke kupilo po 70 ljudi. Da ne pominjem kako su ljudi na pomen Sigme i Krvne linije krenuli sa "Bravo, uzimam, fantasticno, jedva cekam" komentarima pa na kraju uzelo njih 50-60.
Pa to je tih 50-60 koji su rekli Bravo, uzimam, fantasticno, jedva cekam.  |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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star-duster
Junior Member
 

Serbia
445 Posts
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 17:04:51
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I dalje se čudim tome kako ljudi propuštaju ovako dobar strip (i odlično izdanje). Ali nemoguće je da je problem samo u nezainteresovanosti čitalačke publike i u neatraktivnosti samog stripa. Ima tu još ponečega. Nešto morate i vi u PP da uradite da biste bolje promovisali svoja izdanja. Budite aktivniji, prisutniji u javnosti. Mislim da se to može i bez mnogo para. Evo, uskoro će školska godina, uradite neke promocije u školama, ili po omladinskim klubovima, kafićima, frizerskim salonima, nemam pojma... Ili stavite prodajne štandove u pešačkim zonama koje imaju svi gradovi, kupovaće ljudi u prolazu makar iz radoznalosti (a još više kada se upoznaju sa kvalitetom stripova i izdanja). Mislim da su takve akcije efikasne, a sajam knjiga i nije neka prilika za predstavljanje, čini mi se da se tada mnogi dobri izdavači utope u masi i budu nevidljivi u tolikoj gužvi. |
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Oki
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 17:09:16
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quote: Originally posted by Obi-wan
quote: Originally posted by Colt
Radimo na tome... u pogledu prodaje, tako su ljudi rekli i nakon 5 i 6 pa nastavke kupilo po 70 ljudi. Da ne pominjem kako su ljudi na pomen Sigme i Krvne linije krenuli sa "Bravo, uzimam, fantasticno, jedva cekam" komentarima pa na kraju uzelo njih 50-60.
Pa to je tih 50-60 koji su rekli Bravo, uzimam, fantasticno, jedva cekam. 
Evo ja nisam rekao ni bravo ni fantastično,ali sam među tih 50-60 ljudi koji su kupili sve što je Phoenix Press izdao,mada moram priznati da sam Sigmu i komplet Caravana prodao dalje,a Mohikanac nikako da dođe na red za čitanje,alii što se tiče Greystorma-on mi je najbolje što se našlo na repertoaru Phoenix Pressa i pogodan je za višekratno čitanje,pravi strip za uživanje. |
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drogsy
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Croatia
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 17:45:31
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quote: Originally posted by Colt u pogledu prodaje, tako su ljudi rekli i nakon 5 i 6 pa nastavke kupilo po 70 ljudi.
Wtf?! Nije moguće da vlada tolika nezainteresiranost oko ovog junaka... |
Go kneel and weep
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legaz
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 20:12:19
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quote: Originally posted by drogsy
quote: Originally posted by Colt u pogledu prodaje, tako su ljudi rekli i nakon 5 i 6 pa nastavke kupilo po 70 ljudi.
Wtf?! Nije moguće da vlada tolika nezainteresiranost oko ovog junaka...
Upravo tako. Na većini foruma ide ona priča bravo Colte, care, perfektno izdanje, Boneli format kada će sledeći brojevi, kupiću kada izađe sve, ali kada treba da kupe e onda ide ono (samo što ne napišu) koji će mi to k...c ima boljih stvari itd, itd. |
Junaci ne ubijaju one koji ne mogu da se brane. |
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star-duster
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Serbia
445 Posts
Member since 11/06/2011 |
Posted - 08/08/2013 : 22:50:21
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Naprotiv. Ja mislim da svi ljudi koji to napišu, oni zaista i kupe i da niko od njih (nas) nije ispalio Colta. Ali broj onih koji su to pisali na forumima i nije toliko veliki. Svakako ne prelazi brojku od navedenih 70 prodatih primeraka. Mora se efikasnije obraćati "kežual" stripskoj publici. Treba dopreti do onih koji ne vise svakodnevno na forumima i raspravljaju o stripovima.
Da su ljudi zaista tako nezainteresovani za stripove, onda ne bi bilo ovog procvata strip izdavaštva kod nas. Jesu tiraži možda mali, ali su izdanja sve brojnija i kvalitetna i imaju vernu publiku. Ako može Darkwood, ako može Padora, ako može Makondo - ne vidim zašto ne bi i PP mogao da opstane. Mislim da im treba samo malo bolja poslovna strategija. |
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Dr. Zistis
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 00:03:48
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COLTE aj zasuci rukave... Sejseli, Sicilija, Grcka, Hrvatska...nije li dosta mora za ovu godinu  A dodjes i ono pivo u Biblioteci  |
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Colt
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 01:47:21
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quote: Originally posted by star-duster
Naprotiv. Ja mislim da svi ljudi koji to napišu, oni zaista i kupe i da niko od njih (nas) nije ispalio Colta. Ali broj onih koji su to pisali na forumima i nije toliko veliki. Svakako ne prelazi brojku od navedenih 70 prodatih primeraka. Mora se efikasnije obraćati "kežual" stripskoj publici. Treba dopreti do onih koji ne vise svakodnevno na forumima i raspravljaju o stripovima.
Da su ljudi zaista tako nezainteresovani za stripove, onda ne bi bilo ovog procvata strip izdavaštva kod nas. Jesu tiraži možda mali, ali su izdanja sve brojnija i kvalitetna i imaju vernu publiku. Ako može Darkwood, ako može Padora, ako može Makondo - ne vidim zašto ne bi i PP mogao da opstane. Mislim da im treba samo malo bolja poslovna strategija.
Mislim da trziste kod nas nije takvo da bi bas svaki izdavac imao dovoljnu "kolicinu" publike za opstanak i napredak. 9 izdavaca se dopadne istoj i ostvaruje prodaju koja ide od dobre ka odlicnoj, 1 ne. Pricao sam sa ljudima koji se bave analizom desavanja na nasoj strip-sceni i oni su uglavnom bili saglasni u tome da sve ukazuje na to da se nasa izdanja jednostavno nisu svidela sirokoj publici i da fanovi zato nisu obratili previse paznje na njih. Sta da se radi, neko je morao i da izvisi u opstoj poplavi izdanja. |
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legaz
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 07:41:03
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quote: Pricao sam sa ljudima koji se bave analizom desavanja na nasoj strip-sceni i oni su uglavnom bili saglasni u tome da sve ukazuje na to da se nasa izdanja jednostavno nisu svidela sirokoj publici i da fanovi zato nisu obratili previse paznje na njih.
Šta je falilo Traper keriju? Odlično izdanje. Karava. Kada je krenu bio sam skeptičan naposletku uzeo ceo komplet i oduševio se. Grejstorm jako dobar. E sada ova pojedinačna neka su mi OK neka me nisu oduševila ali to ne bi moglo uticati na tako loše stanje svih izdanja. probaj da izađeš sa podacima šta si rasprodao , koliko ti je šta ostalo pa da se vidi. |
Junaci ne ubijaju one koji ne mogu da se brane. |
Edited by - legaz on 09/08/2013 07:44:00 |
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karven
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Serbia
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 14:56:58
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A prodaja nema nikakve veze sa distribucijom i oglašavanjem? Niti jedan strip se nije svideo širokoj publici, a veći deo široke publike nije znao ni da postojite. Da to nema malo veze? Najvažniji strip portal i najvažnija strip prodavnica u Srbiji su vam zatvorili vrata, i to nema veze? Nemoj pogrešno da me razumeš, ja sam prvi ujurio sva izdanja PP, ali mi jeste bilo cimanje da ih uzmem kada nisam mogao da ih nabavim zajedno sa izdanjima drugih izdavača. A pored toga sam znao da postojite, dok 5-6 ljudi koji nisu aktivni na forumima, niti žele da budu, a vole stripove, nisu znali za vas. A sada svaki od njih ima Grejstorma. |
All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands. |
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Poli
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karven
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Serbia
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Posted - 09/08/2013 : 15:38:03
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Srpski izdavač za koga su čuli samo ljudi na ovom forumu. 50-70 ljudi kupilo svaki broj. 30-40 ljudi koji su aktivni na forumu i njihovi poznanici = 70. A kako bi neki anonimus čije se poznavanje stripa svodi na povremene posete DW prodavnici znao da Grejstorm postoji i da ga vredi kupiti? Konačna prodaja je odraz distribucije i reklame, što se u ovom slučaju graniči sa tiražom piratskih izdanja. Jbg, šteta, a zapravo su odlična izdanja. Ali ne treba sve svaljivati u krilo kupaca, i obrazloženja da se ljudima ne sviđaju ti stripovi. Ima nečega i na drugoj strani. Očijukajmo sa realnošću. |
All is one in Darkseid. This mighty body is my church. When I command your surrender, I speak with three billion voices. When I make a fist to crush your resistance. It is with three billion hands. |
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teller
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Slovenia
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Posted - 10/08/2013 : 16:09:41
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Grejstorm i Casidy su toliko dobri stripovi da bi morali doživjeti reprint....da su normalna vremena i normalni čitatelji... iako sam Bonelli tradicionalista ipak mi nije jasno da jedan Zagorovc,Dogovc ili Texovc ne kupi i čita i Grejstorma ili Casidyja..bar ne u večem broju...a ona oduševljenja kod izlazka i najava izdavaći mogu zakačit za rep....ljudi zaborave kupit,ili odu novci na novog Zagora,nisu striparnice na svakom čošku....xx razloga da se ne kupi...i pogreši. I dok Casidy izgurao sa tipično krimi žanrom, Grejstorm sa mixom nauke,fantastike,horora,pustolovine ...zapinje....po mome skromnom sudi tu ide za zasičenje strip tržišta...izdavaća nikad više a novca nikad manje...ljudi naprave prioritete...i tu Grejstorm kao nešto novo odpada... Coltu kapa dolje da izgura serijal...pa ništa, ako ne drugo bar če mi bit drago da taj serijal uz mene ima samo još 100-150 ljudi na području ex Yuge... neodlućnima velika preporuka...ne propuštajte nepoznato...možda vas oduševi na prvu loptu...bar mene je. |
CITAJTE TELLERA,... DA BI POSTALI BOLJI LJUDI! STRIP JUNAK KOJI UCI POŠTENJU I PRAVDI!
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Obi-wan
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Posted - 10/08/2013 : 21:15:27
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Ja nisam Bonellijevac pa kupujem Greystorma. Šta ćeš više... |
What you call sanity, it’s just a prison in your minds that stops you from seeing that you’re just tiny little cogs in a giant absurd machine. |
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Colt
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Posted - 15/08/2013 : 16:19:20
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quote: Originally posted by legaz E sada ova pojedinačna neka su mi OK neka me nisu oduševila ali to ne bi moglo uticati na tako loše stanje svih izdanja.
Kad se podvukla crta koliko se zaista prodalo a koliko je vraceno iz knjizara, Mohikanac 82, KL 64 a Sigma 58. Ocito da ta pojedinacna izdanja definitivno nisu ostavila neki narocit utisak na publiku, da li zbog nesto vece cene ili drugacije teme u odnosu na uobicajena izdanja. |
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brko17
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King Warrior
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 15:49:14
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quote: Originally posted by Colt
Kad se podvukla crta koliko se zaista prodalo a koliko je vraceno iz knjizara, Mohikanac 82, KL 64 a Sigma 58. Ocito da ta pojedinacna izdanja definitivno nisu ostavila neki narocit utisak na publiku, da li zbog nesto vece cene ili drugacije teme u odnosu na uobicajena izdanja.
Pitam se samo kako su onda ta izdanja na izboru za strip godine imala skoro identican broj glasova kao i prodaja, ili cak i vise: Mohikanac u 2011., 83 glasa! dakle vise glasova nego prodatih primjeraka do dan danas?!?!?! http://www.stripovi.com/index.asp?page=oscar-frontpage&Year=2011&List=1&Official=1&Category=1 Izgleda da si ti jedini izdavac kod kojeg vise ljudi glasa za strip, nego sto se primjeraka prodalo. Slucaj za X-Files!
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King Warrior
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 15:52:48
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btw. nadam se da ce uskoro i ostatak Greystorma. Sve pohvale za ovo stivo, jedan od najboljih SBE serijala uopste. Ko bi se tome nadao nakon slabasnog prvog broja?! Sve preporuke onima koji se jos uvijek dvoume. |
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Colt
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Posted - 18/08/2013 : 16:08:49
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quote: Pitam se samo kako su onda ta izdanja na izboru za strip godine imala skoro identican broj glasova kao i prodaja, ili cak i vise: Mohikanac u 2011., 83 glasa! dakle vise glasova nego prodatih primjeraka do dan danas?!?!?! http://www.stripovi.com/index.asp?page=oscar-frontpage&Year=2011&List=1&Official=1&Category=1 Izgleda da si ti jedini izdavac kod kojeg vise ljudi glasa za strip, nego sto se primjeraka prodalo. Slucaj za X-Files!
Eto, mi se ne pitamo... desava se to kad ti se ljudi javljaju i kazu da im je Caravan fino "legao" i da ce jednog dana videti da kupe isti. Dakle, procitali su ga na neki drugi nacin. Kao sto ovde ima forumasa koji su glasali za naslovne strane GS a da, po sopstvenom priznanju, nisu videli jednu jedinu stranu serijala. |
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Colt
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