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tinton
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 19:38:29
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quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
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DzekDenijels
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 19:44:12
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quote: Originally posted by Bat Baterton
Boseli ubedljivo  Ima dosta dobrih priča i Bure, ali njegova objašnjavanja ubijaju. Pritom, Boseli je odgovorniji za ove veće avanture koje razbijaju monotoniju serijala i dižu kvalitet.
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velka031
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 21:17:38
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
Nepobjedivi, Sedmorica ubojica, Matador...
Carsonova proslost, Crveni vukovi, Sjeverozapadni teritorij... Svatko ima svoj ukus, ali Boselli je sve samo ne uzasan u Texu, Boselli je kralj!  |
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Koresh
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 22:37:02
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quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
Nepobjedivi, Sedmorica ubojica
čista nula od priča |
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D.J.
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Posted - 04/04/2014 : 23:49:24
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Mislim da je ocito da je Boselli generalno kao scenarista mnogo jaci od Burattinija i da vjerovatno moze pisati price za mnoge SBE junake, ali isto tako neke njegove stvari me smetaju. King je odlicno objasnio, a bome i Acestroke na njemu jedinstven "njezan" nacin u komentaru recenzije za Bosellijev Izgubljeni rudnik. Zato citiram Acea:
"Crtez je dobar, i naslovnice su ok, ali prica je jad i cemer. Nema ovdje nista novo, niti nista izuzetno; Zagor i Chico putuju okolo, i onda upadaju u situaciju u kojim su Meskikanci i Komanceri u hladnom ratu protiv jedan drugog. Ovo je epizoda 362 Zagor originala u Italiji, i stalno me cudi, kad citam epizode iz ovog doba, kako su scenaristi (u ovom slucaju Boselli) pretvorili Zagora u nekog dosadnog lika, koji uopce nema duse, niti nikakve slabe tacke. Sta se desilo onom Nolitinom ili Sclavijevom Zagoru, koji je patio, koji je bio izudaran, koji nekad nije imao totalno samopouzdanje u samog sebe ili u svoje sposobnosti? Gdje je Zagor koji je ranjiv, i koji je imao puno bolje price, price koje su ga stavili na borbu protiv samog sebe, i svojih principa? Ovaj Zagor je tupav, jedno-dimenzionalan, i slici nekog Supermenu. Koji ce nam kurac heroj koji nema ni jedne slabe tacke, i kojem niko ne moze da naudi?... To sto su neki ovdje dali ovoj prici sve desetke je sramota. Da li ti citaoci uopste znaju Zagora?"
Ipak, kad se uzme broj odlicnih prica oba autora kao i prosjek, glasam za Bosellija, ali mi je isto tako drago sto je Burattini urednik jer bolje "poznaje" samog Zagora.
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D.J.
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Deers
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 01:59:55
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Rekao bih da ta Zagorova savršenost koju spominjete kao nedostatak proizlazi iz jedne druge Bosellijeve vrline - sporedni likovi. Priče nisu više Zagorocentrične već je on samo jedan od pijuna na ploči gdje je najvažnija igra. U Zagorocentričnim epizodama su njegovi padovi bili tu najprije kao motor radnje (koliko bi trajala epizoda ako sredi neprijatelja pri prvom okršaju?). Zato nemojte Bosellijevu vrlinu uzimati kao njegovu slabost. |
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goksi
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 02:12:01
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Buratinijeve epizode su skoro pa reciklaže već viđenog, sa retkim izuzecima. Dok je svaka priča Boselija, priča za sebe, sa novim svetom i ljudima. Autor sa mnogo više svojeg, sa mnogo više i boljih ideja. |
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Deers
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 02:19:10
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Da, mislim da je Burattinijev problem u pisanju priča baš to što dobro "poznaje" Zagora. Boselli (bio, ne bio fan) ima svoju predodžbu Zagora dok Burattini ima svoju predodžbu Nolittinog Zagora. E sada, pitanje je koliko je to problem kad izgleda da i fanovi razmišljaju na sličan način. da se razumijemo, i jedno i drugo je Zagor. |
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tinton
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 12:51:45
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quote: Originally posted by Koresh
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
Nepobjedivi, Sedmorica ubojica
čista nula od priča

Oluja na stjenovitim brdima, Ubojice, Dugo putovanje... |
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tinton
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 12:56:20
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Malo sam procesljo, najbolje od jednog i drugog:
Bure: Mocvara robijasa Dugo putovanje Demonska knjiga Ratnici Krv Apaca Boselli: Huroni Tajna Sumerana Posljednja thula Teritorij Komanca Konkvistadori
Bolji znaci Boselli, ali Bure je jako jak, volio bi da Cajelli opet nesto napise. |
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Edited by - tinton on 05/04/2014 12:57:25 |
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solar
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tinton
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 13:49:26
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quote: Originally posted by solar
quote: Malo sam procesljo, najbolje od jednog i drugog:
Baci pogled na prvi post.
Jesam, ovo je moj izbor best offa. |
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anto
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 14:40:48
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quote: Originally posted by velka031
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
Nepobjedivi, Sedmorica ubojica, Matador...
Carsonova proslost, Crveni vukovi, Sjeverozapadni teritorij... Svatko ima svoj ukus, ali Boselli je sve samo ne uzasan u Texu, Boselli je kralj! 
odavno nisam pročitao nepromišljeniju izjavu. pa sve ovo što su tinton i velka nabrojali su vrh ne samo Texa već i cele Boneli produkcije uopšte. + Na putu za utvrdu Apač,Oluja na Stenovitim brdima,... |
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tinton
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 14:47:50
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quote: Originally posted by anto
quote: Originally posted by velka031
quote: Originally posted by tinton
quote: Originally posted by Koresh
Boselli je u Zagoru kralj, u Texu grobar. Napravio je neke od najboljih Zagora ikad (Aljaska, Cibola, Osveta vudu), ali je zato užasan u Texu
Nepobjedivi, Sedmorica ubojica, Matador...
Carsonova proslost, Crveni vukovi, Sjeverozapadni teritorij... Svatko ima svoj ukus, ali Boselli je sve samo ne uzasan u Texu, Boselli je kralj! 
odavno nisam pročitao nepromišljeniju izjavu. pa sve ovo što su tinton i velka nabrojali su vrh ne samo Texa već i cele Boneli produkcije uopšte. + Na putu za utvrdu Apač,Oluja na Stenovitim brdima,...
Da, slazem se, Boselli je u samom vrhu Bonellija uopce. Nepobjedivi su za mene najbolji tex. |
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Solid Snake
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teller
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 18:17:44
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Boselli texov grobar?....gdje se to vidi...po prodaji texa u italiji sigurno ne. |
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Leonid
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Posted - 05/04/2014 : 18:55:17
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Na putu za utvrdu Apač je fenomenalan western strip do same srži....Boselli je tu pokazao svu svoju raskoš talenta. O Carsonovoj prošlosti da ne govorim.
Boselli je velik scenarist ali kroz vrijeme više sam počeo cijeniti Bureta što se tiče Zagora. |
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ike666
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 19:08:07
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Šta jest jest, resturio ga Boselli. Iako mi se po komentarima nekada čini da je to zbog rada na Texu a ne Zagoru :-) |
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anto
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Posted - 06/04/2014 : 19:10:46
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Ali ne zaboravimo da je Bure uradio jednu od najboljih (meni ubedljivo najbolju) priča - Dugo putovanje.
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Edited by - anto on 06/04/2014 19:11:20 |
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