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PijaniPatak
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Posted - 12/04/2014 : 13:04:59
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quote: Originally posted by Deers
Da, mislim da je Burattinijev problem u pisanju priča baš to što dobro "poznaje" Zagora. Boselli (bio, ne bio fan) ima svoju predodžbu Zagora dok Burattini ima svoju predodžbu Nolittinog Zagora. E sada, pitanje je koliko je to problem kad izgleda da i fanovi razmišljaju na sličan način. da se razumijemo, i jedno i drugo je Zagor.
To je veliki problem, i glavni razlog konstantnog Zagorovog status quo-a i posledičnog pada prodaje. I klinci kojima je serijal tobože namenjen čitaju daleko ozbiljnije stripove poput Dampira i Natana (vidim ih na ulici sa tim stripovima u rukama). |
DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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Bruce Springsteen
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stinky
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Croatia
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Posted - 12/04/2014 : 13:57:33
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Boselli je puno bolji. Burattini je tek ok, ima dobrih, ali i slabih uradaka. Boselli praktički nema slabe epizode, čak su i treći Kandrax i šesti Hellingen solidni. |
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Terminator
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Bulgaria
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Posted - 12/04/2014 : 17:11:31
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Boselli je maštovit, kreativan, fantastičan, barata galerijom mnogih zemaljskih i natprirodnih likova, scenarist je koji je napisao meni (zasad) apsolutni vrh Zagorova serijala - Hellingen je živ. Burattini je svakako na Nolittinu tragu, no jednostavno je okupirao zadnje Zagorovo razdoblje i zbog toga mu se nerijetko zaredaju i loše epizode. Povratak nekih likova iz prošlih epizoda nije bio toliko svjež kao Bosellijev Hellingen, npr. Mortimer na Haitiju nije ni sjena njegovu drugom pojavljivanju, a Skull je potraćen. Ne moram ni spominjati na njegovu nasušnu potrebu da zločinci Zagoru objašnjavaju tančine svojih planova. Naravno da i on ima svojih krasnih epizoda, no one se razvodne u ostatku prosječnih. Boselli bljesne i ode, stoga je ostavio bolji dojam na mene i pobjeđuje. |
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Elderane84
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Posted - 13/04/2014 : 20:12:53
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Ovo glasanje je pokazalo da zapravo vise ima ljubitelja novijeg Zagora, samo sto izgleda nismo glasni dovoljno na forumu. Sto i nije lose, ne valja puno buke ni oko cega dizati. |
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solar
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nagor
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Croatia
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piquet
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Croatia
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Posted - 24/04/2014 : 10:56:08
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da...ali bure je udav... |
"I kako se može razaznati je li neciji jezik iskren, ako mu ne gledamo u lice dok govori i ako ne slušamo zvuk njegovih rijeci?" |
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markotamara
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Knez
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Posted - 04/06/2014 : 00:57:23
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Burattini definitivno. Od navedenih najbolje ocijenjenih samo Okrutni Hawak meni nije nesto posebno. Demonska knjiga je super ili ona njemu najdraza Covjek s puskom. Bosellijeve ideje su SF a one realnije tipa Nestali istrazivac su previse dignute u visinu. Zagor je Zagor a ne Nathan Never ili ko vec |
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solar
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velka031
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Posted - 06/06/2014 : 13:03:42
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Očekivao sam i veću razliku, ali i ovako je jasno što misle fanovi ovdje... Sumnjam da se Buretu jebe za ovo, on će i dalje pokušavati biti novi Nolitta... |
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PijaniPatak
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Germany
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Posted - 06/06/2014 : 13:26:21
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solare, čitam tvoju i Bimbovu raspravu na DW forumu
i ovim si o Burattiniju rekao sve 
quote: Burattini bi htio nasljedovati Nolittu a ne shvaća da najviše što mu uspijeva jest (loše) oponašati neke njegove narativne tehnike. Njegov Zagor je hladan i beživotan i skoro bez iznimke okrenut racionalnom. Nema tu one neposrednosti, ljudske topline, dječačke nevinosti, smisla za humor i mladenačkog idealizma. To je "pravi" Zagor.
Sjećam se detalja iz jedne Nolittine priče gdje se Duh sa sjekirom nalazi u jednoj utvrdi i preskače nekakve bačve radi oklade ili nečeg sličnog. To se naoko čini glupim, ali takve stvari čine život. Nije on trebao pokazati da je najbolji jer se to već zna, nego je imao potrebu za druženjem s vojnicima, šalio se, smijao se, sudjelovao je u "životu".
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DNEVNIK CITANJA: Etika junaštva i deklišeizirani koreni u “Zagor prica...”
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solar
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Posted - 06/06/2014 : 13:36:31
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Hvala na komplimentu, ali Bimbo ga je, ono što se kaže, "rastavio na proste faktore". Njemu i stinkyu po kvaliteti i dubini analiza nisam ni blizu. |
Edited by - solar on 06/06/2014 13:37:52 |
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Zagor i Ogi
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Posted - 08/06/2014 : 22:28:10
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Moreno Burratini ama baz sekunde razmisljanja!!! I Boselli je zakon, obojica su dobri ali Burratini je bolji ;). |
The only good thing in life isZAGOR |
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Tintilinic
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nagor
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 15:34:06
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quote: Originally posted by Zagor i Ogi
Moreno Burratini ama baz sekunde razmisljanja!!! I Boselli je zakon, obojica su dobri ali Burratini je bolji ;).
"Ama bez sekunde razmišljanja"? Zašto tako odlučno. KPa nije poll Pezzin vs Burattini. 
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 15:42:20
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
quote: Originally posted by Zagor i Ogi
Moreno Burratini ama baz sekunde razmisljanja!!! I Boselli je zakon, obojica su dobri ali Burratini je bolji ;).
"Ama bez sekunde razmišljanja"? Zašto tako odlučno. KPa nije poll Pezzin vs Burattini. 
Što je ovaj napisao, nekako mi nije ostao u sjećanju. |
Sinaitakala Tu'imatamoana 'i Fanakavakilangi Fakafanua |
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nagor
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 15:57:11
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Priča s Von Axelom je stvarno propast živa ali ove dvije i nisu toliko loše, pogotovo ova sa karavanom mormona. Možda je za loše ocjene kriv i Gamba koji jednostavno nije bio za Zagora. |
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nagor
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 16:03:10
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Priča s Von Axelom je stvarno propast živa ali ove dvije i nisu toliko loše, pogotovo ova sa karavanom mormona. Možda je za loše ocjene kriv i Gamba koji jednostavno nije bio za Zagora.
Baš ta karavana mormona odnosno Sijera Blanka je definitivno najlošija priča u serijalu. |
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Zagor12
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 16:20:38
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Priča s Von Axelom je stvarno propast živa ali ove dvije i nisu toliko loše, pogotovo ova sa karavanom mormona. Možda je za loše ocjene kriv i Gamba koji jednostavno nije bio za Zagora.
Baš ta karavana mormona odnosno Sijera Blanka je definitivno najlošija priča u serijalu.
Meni je najgora epizoda definitivno bila ono govno, kako se ono zvalo... Omča? |
Z12 je sada Golub, ali sajt je ostao isti: http://superheroji.com.hr/ - Najnovije iz svijeta superheroja
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nagor
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tinton
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Posted - 24/06/2014 : 16:27:39
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Sierra Blanca je Dostojevski naspram bljuvotine Thunderman ili Posljednji Viking.
Prva ima kredibilitet jer ju je napisao Sclavi, a druga zbog Nolitte. |
Dajte nam Banija Libre;može i mekokoricen (ali u boji obavezno)!
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