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Delo, 11.08.2015 Svet so ljudje
Deček na begu "Pred dvema letoma je Husam M., takrat 13-letni deček, v sirskem mestecu Al Bab, ki je bilo tedaj že pod oblastjo Islamske države, na robu ceste čakal prijatelja. Ta je zamujal, zato si je Husam M. prižgal cigareto. Nenadoma je izza vogala pripeljal avtomobil z vojaki Islamske države, ki so malemu dečku čez glavo poveznili vrečo in ga strpali v avtomobil. V njem mu je nekdo, čigar obraza ni mogel videti, dejal: »To se zgodi vsakomur, ki kadi.« Nato so mu odrezali tri prste na roki in ga znova odvrgli iz avtomobila. Takrat je Husam M. sklenil, da bo ob prvi priložnosti zapustil Sirijo.
S 14 leti je prečkal sirsko-turško mejo, da bi prispel v Evropsko unijo. Toda kar štirikrat zapored so mu prečkanje meje preprečile bolgarske patrulje. Nazadnje se je odločil, da bo svojo usodo zaupal tihotapcem z ljudmi. Ti so mu v zameno za 6500 evrov obljubili, da ga bodo prepeljali v Avstrijo. Teden dni kasneje so ga odvrgli na dunajskem trgu Schwedenplatz.
Pred kratkim je Avstrija zdaj že 15-letnemu dečku odobrila azil. Zdaj je na varnem. Medtem so Sirijo zapustili tudi njegova mati, oče ter osem bratov in sester. Zdaj so v Turčiji. Husam M. si najbolj od vsega želi, da bi lahko znova videl starše. In, seveda, da bi dobil nove prste, čeprav protezo."
postavlja se pitanje: da li i njihove zene ne smiju da (im) puse?
International coalition air strike on a building near Hasakah: + 50 IS members on Monday afternoon

napadi stakora na zracnu bazu u Kweresu i dalje u toku, tu su i samoubice, pokusali su i VBIED tenkom
ovo je jos od maja/svibnja

Senior French ISIL Member Killed in Northern Syria http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/senior-french-isil-member-killed-in-northern-syria/
One way of getting from Turkey to Syria

ISIS operatives in Afghanistan kill then blow up Taliban members & local tribes people in Nangarhar https://twitter.com/TRACterrorism/status/630753223209549824
British SAS sniper saves father and eight-year-old son from being beheaded by ISIS maniac. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/597166/SAS-sniper-saves-boy-ISIS-Syria
"The brave British marksman saved the terrified eight-year-old and his father after taking out the crazed jihadi with a head shot from 1,000 metres away.
The special forces crack shot then killed two other members of the hated terror group, who were also taking part in the sick planned execution.
ISIS militants had decreed that the little boy and his father must die after branding them "infidels" because they refused to denounce their faith.
The SAS marksman, using a .50 calibre sniper rifle fitted with a silencer, killed the executioner just in time.
The source added: "The ISIS thug who was about to decapitate the father was shot in the head and collapsed.
"Everyone just stared in confusion. The sniper then dispatched the two henchmen with single shots – three kills with three bullets..."

Iraq - Clashes between Federal Police Forces & ISIS during operations to liberate Husaybah (VIDEO) https://youtu.be/ee7pnPJEl6c
2015-08-09 Coalition airstrikes against ISIS targets in Fallujah (near Jbeil area) (VIDEO) https://youtu.be/osrocNDIA44
ISIS terrorists destroy the Shirk Temples in Al Shahabi in Fallujah https://twitter.com/Terror_Monitor/status/630058088351961088
ISIS Takes Aim at Its Toughest Foes http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/10/isis-takes-aim-at-its-toughest-foes.html
German Isis Abu Omar & Abu Usama execute 2 Syrians in Palmyra & call for lone wolf attacks in Germany & Austria https://twitter.com/HalaJaber/status/628902959187935232
One of the two Austrians, Mohamed Mahmoud, was released by Turkey in August 2014, despite a request by Austria to extradite him. http://www.thelocal.at/20141105/austrian-jihadist-poses-in-front-of-corpses
New IS video from Khorasan prov. shows execution of 10 "apostates" by detonating explosives buried beneath them https://twitter.com/pieternanninga/status/630501212593500160



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Posted - 11/08/2015 : 11:10:08
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zanimljivo ... pogledajte i slike u linku
How is YPG coordinating airstrikes with Centcom? With a regular Samsung tablet & a cellphone. Interesting read.
Inside Syria: Kurds Roll Back ISIS, but Alliances Are Strained http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/10/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-islamic-state-kurdish-militia-ypg.html
"HASAKA, Syria — Green drapes were drawn against the sun, cloaking the room where members of a Syrian Kurdish militia huddled around walkie-talkies, assiduously taking down GPS coordinates.
Talal Raman, a 36-year-old Kurdish fighter, worked on a Samsung tablet, annotating a Google Earth map marked with the positions of the deserted apartment buildings and crumbling villas from where his colleagues were battling Islamic State fighters south of this northern Syrian town. He pinpointed in yellow the positions where his men were hunkered behind a wall, and highlighted in red the coordinates of a building next to a mosque where Islamic State fighters had taken cover.
“Our comrades can see the enemy moving at the GPS address I just sent you,” he wrote in Arabic to a handler hundreds of miles away in a United States military operations room. Then he waited for the American warplanes to scream in.
The strike that ensued soon after blasted a crater at exactly the coordinates provided by the Kurdish fighter. It left a circle of bodies, including one of an Islamic State fighter who died slumped over his AK-47. An urgent message came in from the coalition war room: “Please confirm our comrades are O.K.?”
The tight coordination of American air power with the militia, known as the Y.P.G., from the Kurdish initials for People’s Protection Units, has dealt the Islamic State its most significant setbacks across an enormous strip of northern Syria near the Turkish border in recent months."
 A fighter with the Kurdish militia Y.P.G. inspected the vest of one of nine Islamic State fighters who died after a coordinated airstrike hit their position on the outskirts of Hasaka, Syria. (Mauricio Lima for The New York Times)
alleged pictures of the communication center
 Kurdish fighters checked maps as they coordinated an airstrike on an Islamic State position in Hasaka. The United States air campaign is poised to expand, aided by a deal with Turkey to allow American aircraft to fly combat missions from bases closer to the border. (Mauricio Lima for The New York Times)
ironija
 A Kurdish doctor treated an Islamic State fighter who had suffered burns. A portrait of Abdullah Ocalan, a champion of Kurdish autonomy in Turkey, hangs in the background. (Mauricio Lima for The New York Times)
 A Y.P.G. fighter kept vigil from a hill overlooking oil wells near the village of Derek in Syria. (Mauricio Lima for The New York Times)

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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:05:46
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a i odgovor hr vlade i predsjednice na ovo vrlo loš. da ne kažen jadan. |
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:27:31
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nazalost, sanse za oslobođenje su bile male :( a neki komentari u linku su ... X/
bas to IS i zeli, sve veci pritisak i mrznja na cjelokupnu islamsku zajednicu, sirenje sukoba i mrznje, novo meso ... mada IS nema nista s Islamom zapravo
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:34:27
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
nazalost, sanse za oslobođenje su bile male :( a neki komentari u linku su ... X/
bas to IS i zeli, sve veci pritisak i mrznja na cjelokupnu islamsku zajednicu, sirenje sukoba i mrznje, novo meso ... mada IS nema nista s Islamom zapravo
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:38:39
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prije sa Cosa Nostrom, ili kolumb. narkokartelima, samo sto ne muvaju koku
uglavnom, kriminalci i teroristi, a Islam sigurno nije to o cemu oni pricaju, da jest tako, trebalo bi ga sasjeci u korjenu
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:42:20
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očito ga oni tako doživljavaju. i to naširoko kad se masovno odlaze borit u siriju i irak. to šta ti neke stvari ne želiš pojmit,jebga. |
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 20:53:26
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bas to, "oni ga tako dozivljaju"
moze nekoliko ljudi upraznjavati crne mise u katolickoj crkvi, ali to zato nije (novo)krscanstvo, pa i da im se pridruze tisuci ... ili pak postoji kritican broj i mozemo poceti govoriti o novoj religiji? ali svakako to ne predstavlja cjelo krscanstvo (rimokatolike, protestante, pravoslavce, da se ogranicimi samo na nama najblize)
cak se ni sve selafije ne slazu s njihovim nacinom, zapravo oni (teroristicki dio) predstavljaju veoma mali dio među svim selafijima - ako njih uzmemo kao jedan ogranak Islama
to sto kod njih odlazi sva bagra svijeta ne znaci da je to sada Islam kakav svi muslimani svijeta smatraju pravim, to nam je valjda svima jasno,
svakako nagovaraju sve razocarane i labilne, pa i one pune mrznje, prije svega emocijama nego nekim razumom, pa tako i biraju samo sure koje im odgovaraju, na druge se oglusuju
a svako raspirivanje mrznje prema svemu sto predstavlja Islam je samo voda na njihov mlin, sto vise Zapad mrzi Islam, toliko vise novih borasa (i spavaca) dobivaju
"grave mistake" bi bilo izjednaciti ISIL i Islam
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 21:03:19
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razočarani,ovi oni ali muslimani. to šta nabrajaš razne krščanske skupine je baš to. uvik neka grana misli da je pravilnija. ali se zato ne isključuje iz toga.
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 21:27:03
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zato sam vec ispocetka govorio da je prva stvar da se muslim. zajednica distancira od ovih fanatika, da oni ne predstavljaju Islam, a Zapad isto tako mora pokazati barem malo ... ne znam ni koju rijec upotrijebiti, ali da ne izjednacuje ove srednjevjekovne fanaticne krimose i Islam kao istu stvar ... ali budala ce se naravno uvijek naci, desnica dobiva glasove, mrznja se siri, i jedna i druga strana zapravo "zadovovoljna" :(
ok, teoretski mozemo ove majmune ubrajati jednu granu Islama, granu koja dozvoljava ropstvo, silovanje, sjekanje glava i udova, rezanje prstiju djecacima ako ih i samo vide sa pljugom, koja nasilno uzima svoj danak, tako materijalni kao vjerski (napusti svoju vjeru ili ti ode glava) ... radilo se tako i u drugim vjerama, ali u tamnom sr. vjeku, danas su metode mozda finije, prikritije, ali svakako nitko takvo nesto ne uzima zdravo za gotovo, ne citira to iz svetih knjiga etc. (a dobro, mozda se takvi i nađu, ali vec na milju smrde na budale :D), pa je malo nehigienicki govoriti o njihovoj "vjeri" kao o religiji, u najmanju ruku nehigijenicki
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Posted - 12/08/2015 : 23:43:01
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Nisam za glupavu političku korektnost bushevskog tipa koju ovaj dosadni Slovenac kopipejster promovira: "Islam je religija mira, blablabla... Ti što to čine nemaju veze s islamom." Međutim, još sam manje za stigmatiziranje muslimana (a naročito naše braće Bošnjaka) zbog ovakvih zvjerstava ISIS-a. Pošteno je reći da sve abrahamitske religije nose u sebi klicu intolerancije koja rađa fanatizam i spremnost da se čine zločini, i to se kroz povijest pokazalo u odnosu na sve tri. |
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Posted - 13/08/2015 : 00:03:58
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quote: Originally posted by Poli
... ne znam ni koju rijec upotrijebiti, ali da ne izjednacuje ove srednjevjekovne fanaticne krimose i Islam kao istu stvar ...
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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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ISIS Enshrines a Theology of Rape http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/world/middleeast/isis-enshrines-a-theology-of-rape.html
QADIYA, Iraq — In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her — it condoned and encouraged it, he insisted.
He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her.
When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion.
“I kept telling him it hurts — please stop,” said the girl, whose body is so small an adult could circle her waist with two hands. “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God,” she said in an interview alongside her family in a refugee camp here, to which she escaped after 11 months of captivity.
sta reci, kakvu poruku poslati ...
fanatici, a sa fanaticima ne mozes na ljep nacin, treba to sve potamaniti, nema tu pregovaranja i ubeđivanja da nije u pravu
pitanje je i koliko njima to samo odgovara, a da zaista ne vjeruju u to, vecina fanatika sigurno vjeruje u sve sto im se kaze, ali neki su tu i zbog "profita" ... isto zanimljivo koliko ih kasnije utekne (ako mogu!) jer to nije bilo to sta su mislil i sta su im naslikali da ce biti
Iraq: ISIS Escapees Describe Systematic Rape Yezidi Survivors in Need of Urgent Care https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/04/14/iraq-isis-escapees-describe-systematic-rape
State Dept spox Toner re: claims that YPG will not be allowed into area b/w Kobane & Afrin: "I can't confirm that." http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2015/08/246007.htm#SYRIA
Ahrar Sham claim control of Al-Kherbeh & Gas Plant near Dudiyan east of Azaz after clashes with IS, Aleppo
"Pro SAA source: SAA repelled ISIS attacks on Shaer - Jazal field - Jazal village so far and destroy ISIS tank. Heavy clashes ongoing"
Tell Rifaat will be declared a military zone on Thursday, Aleppo
BREAKING: Clashes between ShamFront & affiliates against IS in Harbul SE of Tell Rifaat, Aleppo
Clashes also reported at IS controlled Um Al-Hosh, Aleppo
Is Russia striking Caucasus Emirate to push militants towards ISIS? http://eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/32647/

Eyewitnesses of special operation in Dagestan report night shootout http://eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/32644/
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Posted - 13/08/2015 : 15:17:53
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Izgleda da je Poli ovdje bistriji decko od nekih drugih. Moze napisati i doktorsku disertaciju na temu "dobat,los,zao",ali da odgovor na to bude tipicno slijeganje ramenima i "ne bi stel mesat,to mi je sve isto!".
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Posted - 13/08/2015 : 18:11:23
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Ovaj nesritni momak je ima nesreću da radi za Francuze i to bi bilo to. Onaj koji je ovo vodija je vjerovatno kažnjen (možda likvidacija), jer je propuštena prilika da se ponize Francuzi (Predsjednik je bija na otvaranju kanala). Kad su svatili da ovaj nije Francuz mora da su pobjesnili, sve uzalud a još gore šta je iz zemlje za koju niko nije čuja (tako su propustili priliku za reklamu na TV kanalima). Po meni, on je ubijen i prije nego što su počeli pregovori jer za ove nema nikakvu vrijednost, niti političku niti novčanu. Valjda su za arape svi bijelci isti (kao za nas obojeni početkom 70-ih, u kinima i TV-u, kad smo ih razlikovali po robi), vidu da je bil i da govori njihov jezik...loša srića za momka. Vi koji ste ovo loše prihvatili ne znate da je to u ˝tom dilu svita˝ sasvin normalan način ponašanja i vođenja života (oni se sigurno čude našem čuđenju). U svakom slučaju, čovik je posta dio statistike današnjice i na žalost ništa više. |
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