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igor 12
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bjelolasica
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Amos
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Posted - 17/08/2015 : 22:14:03
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Cinjenica da je dsormaz baniran zbog uvreda, a da je npr. Gruz prosa liso sa svim onim, najblaze receno, izmisljotinama sto je napisao protiv krscana, govori mnogo o tome gdje je spalo ovdasnje moderiranje.
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Uža san gledati Inspektora Rexa, ali odusta san kad su prominili pasa. |
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VALTER
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Posted - 17/08/2015 : 22:18:51
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Tko će moderirati moderatore? Ovo što se radi sa zaključavanjem topica je sramota. Ako je jedan moderator sankcionirao one za koje smatra da su prekršili pravila, što drugi ima naknadno intervenirati i zaključavati sve topice koji su tobože eksplozivni jer su tobože politički? Neviđena bahatost. |
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nagor
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Posted - 17/08/2015 : 22:55:15
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PUNISHER je najbolji "topić". :)
Malo mi je dosadno, pa bih tipkao:
Nije Gruz započeo sa vrijeđanjem. Gruz je samo bacio kontru culture vultureu – htio je reć da biti katolik, ne znači da si automatski na višem stupnju etičnosti. I činjenica je da nas crkvena zvona bude. To nisu nikakve uvrede.
Situacija je kulminirala kad je Krugi zagrizao sa nacistima. Dsormazu se tu pali crveno svjetlo (iako je samo preletio kroz gruzove postove) i odmah se je našao uvrijeđenim (po defaultu) i u biti prvi počeo vrijeđati.
Ispravna odluka moderatora o izbacivanju Dsormaza.
Nije mi jasno što se culture vulture toliko uzbudio. Kakvo sad vrijeđanje po vjerskoj osnovi. Nema toga u onom topicu. Ima vrijeđanja inteligencije davanjem prostora tvrdnji da svijet nije stariji od 6000 godina, ali zbog toga se ne dobiva ban. Manhunterovo zaključavanje topica? Dopizdio mu cirkus u svaštari, ali svaštara je po definiciji cirkus. Ne može se to riješti zaključavanjem topica.
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igor 12
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Kruger
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Posted - 18/08/2015 : 09:17:23
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Nagore, pogrešno si protumačio situaciju, da je manhunter došao prije mladje možda bi letjeli gruzisti, manhunter nije u ničemu pogriješio time što je zaključao te topice jer su ionako postali provokatorski osim topica sila osovina. Ako se moderatori odluče otvoriti topic sile osovina ne bi bilo loše da ga ipak ostave zaključanog a nek se otvori topic o Siriji i topic o Ukrajini. Dsormaz je jednostavno po.izdio na vrijeđanje kršćanstva i malo grublje reagira ... zanimljivo Gruz i Valter nisu dobili ban zbog uvreda. Što se tiče culture vulturea jeste li primijetili od kad je on na ovom forumu i koliko ima postova, ako kažem da je on iznad vaših lupetanja ispast ću zloban, svojim postupkom culture vulture je htio skrenuti pažnju na nepošteno moderiranje, iako se mladjo i manhunter razlikuju u svjetonazoru, no on u to nije najbolje upućen, jasno je kako je dobio previsoku kaznu i kako nešto ne štima, i njemu je do.izdilo lupetanje o kršćanstvu na dosta topica. Opet si pogrešno protumačio kako je sve kulminiralo mojim reagiranjem na nacizam, bagi se nepotrebno upleo i to je vjerojatno ras.izdilo mladju ... mislim na to što je tako ispalo, mladjo je nešto objašnjavao ( iako dosta pogrešno ).
Dobro Kras zbori, ja ću malo nadopuniti, da sam ja onako nešto napisao u topicu I LOVE YU dobio bi vječni ban a forumaši bi skupljali novce kako bi platili baje koji bi me isprebijali. |
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wolf
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Willer
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Posted - 18/08/2015 : 20:57:08
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Tko će moderirati moderatore? Ovo što se radi sa zaključavanjem topica je sramota. Ako je jedan moderator sankcionirao one za koje smatra da su prekršili pravila, što drugi ima naknadno intervenirati i zaključavati sve topice koji su tobože eksplozivni jer su tobože politički? Neviđena bahatost.
Da, i neka je, spriječila je druge bahatosti. Tamo jedva da je bilo moguće izdvojiti dva posta koja ne zrače istom (rekao bih da je Polijev post iznimka, možda još poneki). Naravno, dok nema osobnih uvreda, bahatost je dozvoljena a i općenito je društveno poželjna. Kurac (momčina) je superioran pički (pičkici), a baja iz urbane/ruralne legende dosadnom hipiju. Samo što onda trajni, nikad prekinuti Konflikt (p)ostaje Cilj. Ali nije nas briga, Oni su uvijek gori od Nas, imamo čvrste dokaze, a tko je (bio) gori a tko bolji, Mi ili Oni, to je nešto što je najvažnije.
Tako da, @Zoroasterix, nisi ništa propustio, ako jesi čitao neke rasprave u Svaštari od prije mjesec, jer gotovo da i najmiroljubiviji post nekih forumaša anticipira divljanje koje smo na onom topicu vidjeli nekidan. Ne pretjerujmo ipak. Sve je to bura u čaši vode. Osim toga, to je i stvar osobnog stila, forumskog identiteta pojedinca. Ako bi neki forumaši promijenili ponašanje, sve bi bilo uništeno, oooooo, sve, baš sve. Kao u onoj epizodi South Parka, kad je župnik iskidao neki drevni zapis pa se urušio cijeli Vatikan. Uostalom, kako što vidimo ovdje u "Punisheru", mnogima se urušio forumski svijet nakon što je topic zaključan.
I zato, manhunter, ipak ga otvori. Bahaćanje, namrgođeno dokazivanje, uvrijeđenost, dvostruki kriteriji, netaktičnost, momačko nadjebavanje, podjebavanje, to su stvari koje (forumski) Život znače. Bez njih Svijet propada. Forumski identiteti izgleda da poprilično gube smisao. I baš zato, kad bi s ovoga Svijeta bahaćenje, namrgođeno dokazivanje, uvrijeđenost, "ugroženost", dvostruki kriteriji, netaktičnost, momačko nadjebavanje, podjebavanje, svi redom nestali, nastupio bi kaos, mržnja, ratovi... oh, wait!
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stinky
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Posted - 19/08/2015 : 12:27:44
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ma nema ništa loše da se jasno zauzmu strane naposljetku, jedino to preostaje
to što ti tražiš, iskaš svijećom, ma ne može to pod ovim uvjetima. ne može nikakva sinteza ni Cjelina dok je moderator (onaj tko bi trebao sagledati Cjelinu) mlađo. on je moj otvoreni neprijatelj. i ja njegov. i čitave njegove strane. ne mislim sad na "oružane bitke (mada ni takve nisu isključene)", ali ne može biti moderator netko tko podržava jednu stranu. tko je isključiv.
zašto je mlađo moderator? kako je to uopće moguće.
zašto nije, recimo, wolf moderator? wolf bi bio sto puta bolji.
ovakva pravila i ovakvi uvjeti vode konfliktu, ma koliko ti htio biti iznad 'zaraćenih strana' i identiteta. |
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Willer
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Posted - 19/08/2015 : 12:58:59
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Može se težiti prema tome, uviđati gdje se pogriješilo i ne ponoviti grešku idući put. Koliko to i kako ide kojem od trenutnih moderatora, to ne bih znao reći, ne pratim dovoljno. |
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lwood
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 20/08/2015 : 17:26:47
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Zatvoriti topic Evolucija je jedina istina...jedina istina ..vrlo laskavo za mene koji sam ga otvorio ..otvaram Champagne |
“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.”? Oscar Wilde |
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mr murdoc
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Posted - 20/08/2015 : 17:31:08
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quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Tko će moderirati moderatore? Ovo što se radi sa zaključavanjem topica je sramota. Ako je jedan moderator sankcionirao one za koje smatra da su prekršili pravila, što drugi ima naknadno intervenirati i zaključavati sve topice koji su tobože eksplozivni jer su tobože politički? Neviđena bahatost.
Insinuirati na Watchmen..vrlo elegantno i inteligentno  |
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going going
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Posted - 20/08/2015 : 19:16:04
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quote: Originally posted by mr murdoc
quote: Originally posted by VALTER
Tko će moderirati moderatore? Ovo što se radi sa zaključavanjem topica je sramota. Ako je jedan moderator sankcionirao one za koje smatra da su prekršili pravila, što drugi ima naknadno intervenirati i zaključavati sve topice koji su tobože eksplozivni jer su tobože politički? Neviđena bahatost.
Insinuirati na Watchmen..vrlo elegantno i inteligentno 
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lwood
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Tonka24
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Posted - 21/08/2015 : 19:48:18
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Molio bi te da odgovoris ako si sposoban...a taj topic koji mi savjetujes slobodno ubaci samog sebe i jos mnoge svoje stavove, jer to je jedino mjesto gdje pripadaju. |
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