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nagor
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:23:05
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Samo što će ta ista banka (točnije, bilo koja) zbog nekog sitnog duga uzeti čovjeku imovinu koja vrijedi 100-150 puta više i debelo zaraditi na tome. U velikoj većini slučajeva banke nisu na gubitku, ako se dogodi da kod jednoga ne profitiraju, kod mnogih drugih će to uspjeti a često i nelegalnim načinima. Istina da dugove treba vraćati i ne treba imati milosti prema onima koji to namjerno neće da rade, ali koliko samo ima slučajeva da netko ostane bez posla i jednostavno nema od kuda. Sam način poslovanja banaka je lopovski, čak i kada nisi posudio nikakve novce od njih oni nađu načina da zarade na tebi jer moraš imati otvoren račun da bi primao plaću. Šugavo ''vođenje'' računa u mojoj banci je prije nekoliko godina iznosilo 10 kn mjesečno, pa je zatim ta naknada otišla na 12 a od nedavno i 13 kn. Neka ima samo 100 000 klijenata (a sigurno da ih je više) ne treba puno da se izračuna kolika je njihova godišnja zarada samo na takvoj beznačajnoj stvari kao što je vođenje računa. Zbog toga mi je uvijek drago kada ih netko uspije zajebati, bez obzira na koji način. |
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nagor
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:33:41
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Da, sve to stoji. Nisu banke nevinašca i sigurno nikome nisu simpatični debeli i pohlepni bankari, ali pravila su pravila i ne smije biti iznimki jer inače cijeli sustav propada i onda svi gubimo.
Zašto oprostiti jednom dužniku koji je izgubio posao? Kako ćeš to objasniti nekome drugom jadniku i njegovoj obitelji, koji jedva ali ipak uredno isplaćuje svoje dugove. Samo zato što ima posao i što nije došao plakati u banku, njemu nećeš oprostiti dug? To su te fore na koje ljudi zaboravljaju. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:36:10
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
Samo što će ta ista banka (točnije, bilo koja) zbog nekog sitnog duga uzeti čovjeku imovinu koja vrijedi 100-150 puta više i debelo zaraditi na tome. U velikoj većini slučajeva banke nisu na gubitku, ako se dogodi da kod jednoga ne profitiraju, kod mnogih drugih će to uspjeti a često i nelegalnim načinima. Istina da dugove treba vraćati i ne treba imati milosti prema onima koji to namjerno neće da rade, ali koliko samo ima slučajeva da netko ostane bez posla i jednostavno nema od kuda. Sam način poslovanja banaka je lopovski, čak i kada nisi posudio nikakve novce od njih oni nađu načina da zarade na tebi jer moraš imati otvoren račun da bi primao plaću. Šugavo ''vođenje'' računa u mojoj banci je prije nekoliko godina iznosilo 10 kn mjesečno, pa je zatim ta naknada otišla na 12 a od nedavno i 13 kn. Neka ima samo 100 000 klijenata (a sigurno da ih je više) ne treba puno da se izračuna kolika je njihova godišnja zarada samo na takvoj beznačajnoj stvari kao što je vođenje računa. Zbog toga mi je uvijek drago kada ih netko uspije zajebati, bez obzira na koji način.
obična glupost. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:37:49
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quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da, sve to stoji. Nisu banke nevinašca i sigurno nikome nisu simpatični debeli i pohlepni bankari, ali pravila su pravila i ne smije biti iznimki jer inače cijeli sustav propada i onda svi gubimo.
Zašto oprostiti jednom dužniku koji je izgubio posao? Kako ćeš to objasniti nekome drugom jadniku i njegovoj obitelji, koji jedva ali ipak uredno isplaćuje svoje dugove. Samo zato što ima posao i što nije došao plakati u banku, njemu nećeš oprostiti dug? To su te fore na koje ljudi zaboravljaju.
večina ljudi uzima kredite koji im nisu potrebni. banke jednostavno igraju na pohlepu,a ljudi su glupi. i to je sva suština toga. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:42:34
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Nije glupost, znam slučaj kada je čovjeku ostala jedna rata od nekih 1000 kn da otplati kredit, nije mogao platiti jer je ostao bez posla i ode mu kuća. Čisto sumnjam da su je kasnije prodali samo za tih 1000 kn da namire svoj dug, tko misli da jesu stvarno je naivan. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:47:11
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večina slučajeva nije takva ka šta ti misliš. radija san 4 godine u banci pa itekako znam o čemu pričan. nisan radija na kreditima nego uglavnom u unutrašnjem platnom prometu i kartičnom poslovanju. najmanje 80 % ljudi koji su u minusu su to bili iz obijesti a ne zato jerbo su bili gladni i žedni. a i mali san postotak reka. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:48:44
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uostalom danas ti svi prite ovrhama ako ne platiš račune. država ništa tu nije bolja od banaka. čak je i gora. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:52:25
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quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da, sve to stoji. Nisu banke nevinašca i sigurno nikome nisu simpatični debeli i pohlepni bankari, ali pravila su pravila i ne smije biti iznimki jer inače cijeli sustav propada i onda svi gubimo.
Zašto oprostiti jednom dužniku koji je izgubio posao? Kako ćeš to objasniti nekome drugom jadniku i njegovoj obitelji, koji jedva ali ipak uredno isplaćuje svoje dugove. Samo zato što ima posao i što nije došao plakati u banku, njemu nećeš oprostiti dug? To su te fore na koje ljudi zaboravljaju.
večina ljudi uzima kredite koji im nisu potrebni. banke jednostavno igraju na pohlepu,a ljudi su glupi. i to je sva suština toga.
Tko uzme kredit za kuću vjerojatno mu je i potrebna, tko uzme kredit za auto od stotinjak tisuća kuna njega ne treba žaliti jer su to uludo bačeni novci. A ljudi podižu hrpu kredita baš zato što im banke nude, bez obzira što je kod nekih vidljivo da ga neće moći plaćati. Pa kako će netko s prosječnom plaćom od 5000 kn plaćati kredite kojim ima za 6000 kn mjesečno ili više, a takvih slučajeva je prije 10-ak godina bilo koliko hoćeš. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:55:27
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quote: Originally posted by DODSFERD
quote: Originally posted by lwood
quote: Originally posted by nagor
Da, sve to stoji. Nisu banke nevinašca i sigurno nikome nisu simpatični debeli i pohlepni bankari, ali pravila su pravila i ne smije biti iznimki jer inače cijeli sustav propada i onda svi gubimo.
Zašto oprostiti jednom dužniku koji je izgubio posao? Kako ćeš to objasniti nekome drugom jadniku i njegovoj obitelji, koji jedva ali ipak uredno isplaćuje svoje dugove. Samo zato što ima posao i što nije došao plakati u banku, njemu nećeš oprostiti dug? To su te fore na koje ljudi zaboravljaju.
večina ljudi uzima kredite koji im nisu potrebni. banke jednostavno igraju na pohlepu,a ljudi su glupi. i to je sva suština toga.
Tko uzme kredit za kuću vjerojatno mu je i potrebna, tko uzme kredit za auto od stotinjak tisuća kuna njega ne treba žaliti jer su to uludo bačeni novci. A ljudi podižu hrpu kredita baš zato što im banke nude, bez obzira što je kod nekih vidljivo da ga neće moći plaćati. Pa kako će netko s prosječnom plaćom od 5000 kn plaćati kredite kojim ima za 6000 kn mjesečno ili više, a takvih slučajeva je prije 10-ak godina bilo koliko hoćeš.
pa o tome i pričan. ljudi su tupavi pa se zajogune i onda se nađu u problemima. i onda in je svako kriv osim njih samih. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 14:56:38
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ako imaš love za vozit fiču onda voziš fiču,a ne mercedesa. vrlo jednostavno. |
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 15:26:57
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Mentalni sklop nekih ljudi nije namijenjen za upravljanje većom količinom novca. Sa mnom je nekada radio čovjek koji se zadužio u 5-6 različitih banaka, iako je imao dobru plaću za naše standarde (6500 kn) dugovi su premašivali njegova mjesečna primanja. Ubrzo mu još lopovski PBZ ponudi nekakav brzi kredit kojeg budala uzme i još više se ukopa. Kada je zaštekalo s plaćanjem dugova uslijedile su blokade i nekih 5 godina nije dobivao ništa od plaće. Nakon što se zakon promijenio počeo je primati 2/3 plaće iako još ima poprilično dugova koji će se vjerojatno rješavati sudski. Takvih ljudi nije šteta jer se sami dovedu u probleme, ali treba priznati da tu ima i velike krivice banaka koje su u to vrijeme nudile sve i svašta. Od kako se zakon promijenio stvari su se postrožile i ne možeš više dizati šakom i kapom, ali posljedice su ostale, ne samo za one pohlepne koji se nisu znali kontrolirati, već i za druge ljude oko njih koji nisu ništa krivi. |
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lwood
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 15:37:01
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nisu to neki ljudi nego večina. i ko bi njih po tebi triba kontrolirat? isti q je sa kazinima,kladionama itd. ima ih ka gljiva posli kiše. a ovisnika o istima ka u priči. jebga realnost nikome nije mila pa svi biže u utopije. samo šta neke to više opali po žepu nego druge.
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wolf
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 15:43:48
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Banke su nudile (i još uvijek nude) sve i svašta upravo zbog čobana i, kako bi rekao Kras, malograđana. Do jučer nisu imali što jesti a danas bi htjeli biti viđeni u skupim autima. I tako se kupe auti, u kući se gladuje, a onda s vremenom se i auti sve manje voze jer nema se više ni za gorivo (da ne spominjemo servise i kvarove kad krenu). A banke samo čekaju strpljivo, jer znaju da takvima mogu ovrhom pobrati kuće, zemljišta, ili što već.
Banke su lopovi, ali tome su najviše pridonijeli ovi koje sam sad opisao. Ima ljudi koji su pokušavali od kredita napraviti nekakvu kućicu ili uzeti neki mali stančić, ali bilo je i megalomana koji su u startu zidali trokatnice ili kupovali stanove od 100+ kvadrata u centrima većih gradova, da se imaju čime pohvaliti u svojim rodnim krajevima. I onda danas imamo deložacije tih istih likova. Ono, vjerovati da ćeš u ova vremena do mirovine imati stalni posao i visoku plaću može samo naivan ili glup čovjek. Političari se izuzimaju. |
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MD72
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Posted - 24/04/2016 : 19:08:42
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Sve je jasno,banka je institucija koja je tu da ti proda novac i naplati usluge,neka vrsta nuznog zla. Zalosno je kad neko izgubi kucu zbog nemogucnosti otplacivanja kredita ali ne moze se tu krivit banka. I njihovo poslovanje je povezano sa brojnim rizicima,bilo da se radi o nekoj sitnoj instituciji ili gigantu. Nakon sloma US banke Lehman Brothers,kada je preko noci izazvana ekonomska kriza svjetskih razmjera i isparilo preko 10 biliona dolara, banke su generalno postale opreznije,a samim tim i okrutnije. Zbog ekstremno niskih kamata,trenutno imamo jednu paradoksalnu situaciju,gdje su najveci gubitnici oni koji imaju ustedjevinu. U nekim zemljama,umjesto kamate na ustedjevinu,stedisa ce ubuduce banci placati naknadu za cuvanje novca. Svi oni koji su planirali da im u starosti kamata na ustedjevinu bude neka vrsta dodatne mirovine,trenutno imaju lose karte. Zbog toga se mnogi odlucuju na ulaganje u nekretnine i tu naravno drzava debelo zaradjuje na raznim porezima i dadzbinama. Kako god okrenes,ne mozes izbjeci da te neko ne izuje.
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Posted - 25/04/2016 : 13:34:18
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DODSFERD
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DODSFERD
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Posted - 26/04/2016 : 13:29:26
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I ta policija sebi previše dopušta, ako zaustavlja nekog zbog prometnog prekršaja onda na tome treba ostati a ne tražiti još i heroin po autu.  |
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