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Poli
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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 08:49:50  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Risar_69

saudska arabija če sama sebe da istražuje za napad na jemen. totalni idiotizam...
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/koalicija-pod-vodstvom-savdske-arabije-obljublja-preiskavo-napada-v-jemnu/404717#comments


Ali zato su SAD javile da ce preuciti svoju daljnu pomoc "koaliciji". Je, mos misliti.



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Poli
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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 08:56:32  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

jao, kad je i le Penova jednom rekla nesto pametno
http://webtribune.rs/marin-le-pen-optuzila-eu-vi-ste-krivi-za-haos-u-siriji-umesto-da-se-borite-protiv-dzihadista-vi-ste-se-borili-protiv-asada-i-putina/#



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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 12:58:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

Nisam bio na internetu od subote, pa malo svega ...


Battles for Aleppo | October 8th 2016






Long way home | Handarat camp, Aleppo






Liwa al-Quds in Owaija district | October 9th 2016 | Aleppo






On the front lines with the Syrian soldiers | October 9th 2016 | Aleppo





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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 13:47:49  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

In Video: Syrian War Update. October 6-8. Syrian Army continues to advance in Eastern Aleppo
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-war-update-october-6-8-syrian-army-continues-advance-eastern-aleppo/


Watch Al Qaeda in Syria terrorists get eliminated by SAA snipers in Eastern Aleppo (jos vise snimaka u linku)
video: https://twitter.com/MmaGreen/status/785159804872302592


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-captures-more-territory-in-east-aleppo/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-battlefield-map-aleppo-city-3/




kod Hame jucer ... Ma'an je navodno vec nazad u rukama SAA
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuXSQBxXYAAOpzZ.jpg

velika karta: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuWJjW0XgAUvU1U.jpg:large






nadam se da se nece prebzro pomiriti ... neka se stakori jos malo pobijaju međusobno
JFS spokesperson says an agreement has been reached with Ahrar al-Sham to implement a ceasefire to help end fighting with Jund al-Aqsa


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jund-al-aqsa-officially-joins-syrias-al-qaeda-branch-stop-recent-bloodbath/


https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-enters-key-village-northern-hama/





istocna i zapadna Ghouta dzep

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-major-jihadist-stronghold-eastern-ghouta/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-pushes-deeper-western-ghouta/




djeda od 65 koji se bori za svoju domovinu, Siriju
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/784895268617654272


navodno pripadnik Tigrovca odgovara na pitanja
https://twitter.com/MIG29_/status/785237439573024768




situacija u sjevernoj Siriji (cudi me da na ovoj karti Arima nije prikazana u rukama Kurda)


velika karta: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/d24b/8mnsny1u0rx7fnfzg.jpg



Breaking - Russian mod. Russia want to establish a naval base of the Russian naval fleet in the Tartous port. Russia will increase the number of warships when creating a naval base


New Russian Mi24 p in Humaimam Airport
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuZSew7WYAA8swq.jpg:large





u Iraku

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraq-read-to-battle-occupying-turkish-forces-near-isis-held-mosul/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-isis-fighters-storm-iraqi-town-shirqat/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/kurdish-peshmerga-wipe-dozens-isis-near-kirkuk/




What's the situation in Mali? Latest map and analysis
http://lecourrierdumaghrebetdelorient.info/mali/arab-world-maps-mali-a-new-somalia/



te par karti iz Jemna
https://twitter.com/Tutomap/status/785406848476254208

https://twitter.com/Tutomap/status/785403160043122688



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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 14:06:11  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Dranki a Private Message
Jedan lik iz (čini mi se) Hoover instituta rekao da su stigli MANPADS-ovi u Siriju, dva kontingenta. Ako je istina, pretpostavljam da će ih koristiti američki specijalci maskirani kao džihadisti, to je jedini način da osiguraju da ne padnu u pogrešne ruke.

I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote.
I love to sail forbidden seas, and land on barbarous coasts.
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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 15:34:03  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dranki

Jedan lik iz (čini mi se) Hoover instituta rekao da su stigli MANPADS-ovi u Siriju, dva kontingenta. Ako je istina, pretpostavljam da će ih koristiti američki specijalci maskirani kao džihadisti, to je jedini način da osiguraju da ne padnu u pogrešne ruke.


Sta, raznijet ce ih ako ih zohari opkole i pokusaju im ih oteti?


A navodno su vec bili pucali na jedan Mil-Mi 8 koji je dostavio humanitarnu u Aleppu, pri povratku kroz Idlib - Hama podrucje, ali na srecu nije bio srusen. Mislim da je Al Masdar News javio.


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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 18:57:27  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message
Paljenje vatre na Balkanu

http://www.taz.de/Debatte-Bosnien-und-Herzegowina/!5343377/

Politička situacija u Bosni i Hercegovini je sve eksplozivnija.
Rusija i Turska slijede tamo svaka svoje interese.

Turska zajedno s Emiratima svojom vjerski obilježenom politikom potiče razgraničenje Bošnjaka od drugih narodnih grupa, odnosno rade na trodiobi BiH na etnčko-nacionalističkoj i vjerskoj razini.

Na taj način podgrijavaju napetost u regiji i daju legitimnost agresivnoj ruskoj politici.

A Zapad? Hoće li prepoznati opasnost koja se ponovo kuha na Balkanu? Da u Briselu odnosno u Berlinu postoje promišljenje protustrategije na rusku, tursku i arapsku ofenzivu, čisto sumnjamo...

Jako dobra analiza stanja u BiH!

Have mercy

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wolf
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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 19:14:34  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send wolf a Private Message
Kad pukne bosanski lonac bit će gadno. A već se poduže vrijeme krčka.
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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 19:32:26  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Risar_69 a Private Message
nato nas tjera u rat. znalo se to...malo stariji info
http://www.regionalobala.si/novica/nemska-veleposlanica-razburkala-javnost-nato-nas-potiska-v-vojno-in-nam-laze-video

Kad pocneš crtati, uvek moraš imati na kraju olovke, srce, ruku i misli!

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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 19:42:57  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message





evo, zar je vec pocelo? svakako zanimljivo
http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/zasto-je-americki-f18-dobio-svjetlo-plavu-1993


http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/u-sirijskoj-pokrajini-idlib-izbio-rat-izmedu-1990



http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/putin-u-istanbulu-cestitao-erdoganu-na-uspjesnom-1991


10 October 2016 18:52
Syria Opposition Asks Foreign Allies to Supply Them with Anti-Aircraft Weapons
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1871062


http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/iranski-general-qassem-suleimani-saudijski-princ-je-1989

http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/izrael-se-zali-da-zbog-ruskih-sustava-1987

http://www.altermainstreaminfo.com.hr/vijesti/velika-pobjeda-saudijskog-rezima-u-jemenu--1988



Libya situation map 1 - 30 September 2016
http://aerohisto.blogspot.si/2016/10/libya-situation-map-1-30-september-2016.html


Jemen
https://twitter.com/ammar82/status/785393040852709376



Rebels/FSA+Turkish Army fast advance & gain 9 villages in N Aleppo from IS





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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 21:13:36  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Paljenje vatre na Balkanu

http://www.taz.de/Debatte-Bosnien-und-Herzegowina/!5343377/

Politička situacija u Bosni i Hercegovini je sve eksplozivnija.
Rusija i Turska slijede tamo svaka svoje interese.

Turska zajedno s Emiratima svojom vjerski obilježenom politikom potiče razgraničenje Bošnjaka od drugih narodnih grupa, odnosno rade na trodiobi BiH na etnčko-nacionalističkoj i vjerskoj razini.

Na taj način podgrijavaju napetost u regiji i daju legitimnost agresivnoj ruskoj politici.

A Zapad? Hoće li prepoznati opasnost koja se ponovo kuha na Balkanu? Da u Briselu odnosno u Berlinu postoje promišljenje protustrategije na rusku, tursku i arapsku ofenzivu, čisto sumnjamo...

Jako dobra analiza stanja u BiH!



samo šta je za razliku od 90-tih puno manje ljudi spremno ginit.

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Posted - 10/10/2016 : 21:46:08  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send KRAS a Private Message
na balkanu je sve ovisno od rusije
ni onda nebi bilo rata
da se nije raspa sssr
ovako su udbaši znali da ih još samo rat može spasiti od gubitka položaja i slobode
jer brez sssr morali bi odgovarti za zločine
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Posted - 11/10/2016 : 09:15:01  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send lwood a Private Message
problem balkana i je taj da usa,turska ili rusija mogu upalit vatru kad im odgovara

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Posted - 11/10/2016 : 09:45:24  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send Poli a Private Message

clanak u vezi Rusko-Turskih odnosa ... jeste zanimljivo kako Turska nema vise zalbi na racun Rusije, a to su zapazili i u Washingtonu ... i vidjet cemo hoce li Turska zatvoriti kanale snabdijevanja stakora
https://s22.postimg.org/r2nii5mq9/image.jpg


nova igra na snazi
Putin: Russia, Turkey call for urgent end to bloodshed in Syria
https://www.rt.com/news/362285-putin-erdogan-turkey-meeting/



Syrian Army launches huge assault in southern Aleppo
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-launches-huge-assault-southern-aleppo/

ALEPPO, SYRIA (7:00 A.M.) - Minutes ago, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA), alongside Hezbollah and Harakat Al-Nujaba (Iraqi paramilitary), launched a massive assault in the southern sector of Aleppo City, targeting the key district of Sheikh Sa'eed.

No gains have been reported as of yet; however, a local army source told Al-Masdar this morning that today's assault is one of the largest attacks conducted since the battle for the Artillery College in late August.

Also participating in this battle today is the Russian Air Force; they have reportedly conducted over 20 airstrikes in southern Aleppo this morning.

More details to come....




heh, bas jucer sam se pitao u vezi Latakije i kako nema nekih informacija vec neko vrijeme, kad ...

"Insurgents launched a new offensive in Latakia today. The aim seems clear: to force SAA to redeploy from Aleppo Governorate and set preconditions for a militant counterattack there. This op will rep. unite all groups in one military operation room. A militant counteroffensive at Mallah farms seems unlikely at this point cons. recent Government advances at Handarat. A 2nd push in southern Aleppo at the artillery academy would be difficult to succeed considering the fact that sev. thousands of loyalist reinforcements arrived there recently. A possible op could be an attack in al Hadher area in order to isolate loyalist forces in the area, cut Aleppo - Hama supply route and to reach southern Aleppo outskirts in a 3rd step." https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/785549886636851205


Svakako zanimljiva hipoteza, posto se vec neko vrijeme sada ocekuje snaznija kontraofanziva pacova u Aleppu i prije svega izvan njega. Na neki nacin bi ovo moglo uspijeti, ali samo na kratko. Ne vjerujem da bi dosli do te trece faze i proboja iz istocnog Aleppa. Isprva bi mogli iznenaditi SAA ali posto je ovdje "cisti teren" u pitanju, bili bi laka meta za zrakoplove. A i do sada nisu bili uspijesni sa probojima fronte kod Hadhera. Zivi bili pa vidjeli ... drz' se SAA!



u Latakiji



"8 rebels died in an ambush set up by the SAA."

https://twitter.com/FSAPlatform

https://twitter.com/badly_xeroxed/status/785545589031395328

https://twitter.com/Interbrigades/status/785541782444634117

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadist-rebels-launch-major-offensive-northern-latakia/


Jihadi Julian: Fresh Grad missiles entered Latakia from Turkey today - to use them against Assad near the border.
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/785601512722563072




u Hami

Tiger Forces capture 14 northern Hama villages in 72 hours
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/tiger-forces-capture-14-northern-hama-villages-72-hours/


Jihadist civil war escalates in Idlib as more groups join the battle
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadist-civil-war-escalates-idlib-groups-join-battle/





Another video of FSA calling American forces in Syria pigs, crusaders, & prostitutes. Promise to f... their Moms, etc.
https://twitter.com/towersight/status/785501162573336577

Amiji ce (ponovno) zajebati sebe same.





Syrian Army missile strike kills several jihadists in rural Damascus (+ video)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-missile-strike-kills-several-jihadists-rural-damascus/



47 ceasefire violations reported in Syria in past day: Russian reconciliation center
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/47-ceasefire-violations-reported-syria-past-day-russian-reconciliation-center/



Israeli minister to visit Turkey for the first time in six years
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-minister-visit-turkey-first-time-six-years/



Syria and Czech Republic to improve relations
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syria-czech-republic-improve-relations/



War on ISIS | Makhoul Mountains, Iraq (October 1st - 6th 2016)




Iraqi forces mobilize for important offensive
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/iraqi-forces-mobilize-important-offensive/



+18
Saudi Arabia attack on funeral home | October 8th 2016 | Sana'a, Yemen
video: https://youtu.be/eTZtNdzM1xM



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borbe u Aleppu se nastavljaju, izvori kazu, da je SAA (+ savjeznici) kod Sheikh Saeda (gdje su prije par dana bili odbijeni od strane pacova) sakupila vise vojnika nego ih je sudjelovalo u proboju kroz vojnu akademiju ... a teoretski bi ih mogli upotrijebiti i negdje drugdje u Aleppu

a ova diverzija u Latakiji - jer ocigledno je to samo to, diverzija - ne bi smjela odvuci previse SAA trupa iz Aleppo podrucja u Latakiju ... vjerojatno su pacovi iskoristili momentum (zatisje u Latakiji) i udarili, ali ovdje su ionako vec igrali ping pong prije toga (koliko puta je samo Kinsaba promjenika vlasnika)

Latakia // The rebel gains in Latakia have now been confirmed to be completely reversed by SAA forces.


navodno se ocekuje pritisak pacova kod 1070 podrucja u Aleppu, zato i tako snazne borbe tamo vec cijelo vrijeme, a i ona varianta o proboju fronte kod Hadhera i istovremeno sa istocne strane je moguc scenario, no SAA je za to vrijeme vec snazno pojacala juzni dio fronte kod samoga grada


12 rebel shells hit Al Hamdanya in Aleppo during the night. 3 civilians killed, 14 injured. We went to a hospital emergency room. Naravno, zapadni mediji se nece javljati u vezi napada pacova na grad.
https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/785783251004555265

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1871400




zato stizu dobre vijeti iz istocne Ghoute, gdje se dzep postepeno sve vise smanjuje, samo sto nisu odrezali ovaj SI dio kod Tel Kurdija (no trn u oku - Jobar - jos ostaje duz cestu iz Damaska) ... SAA/NDF regain strategic village of Reyhan E Duma in E Ghouta from Jaish al Islam ... Al Reyhan is on the doorstep of Douma in East Ghouta. If they cant even defend such a strategic significant area, it could be over soon. The whole western part of E Ghouta will be tricky, but when eastern farms is gone, they have no more food left.





a isto i iz samoga glavnog grada, iz Damaska, gdje je IS zauzela Palestinski izbjeglicki kamp Yarmouk, a SAA uz pomoc Palestnskih boraca (koji su se borili i na sjeveru Aleppa, za svoj izbjeglicki kamp u Handaratu) ih sada istjerava ... SAA/PLA & allies advance in Yarmouk RC in S Damascus & regain N Part of it






napredovanje ide dobro i u zapadnoj Ghouti, gdje se nadam "Daraya ishodu", znaci predaju teritorije u zamjenu za prelazak na druge djelove koje drze pacovi (Idlib podrucje) ... tu mislim da bi ih prije uspijeli dotuci nego u istocnoh Ghouti, vjerojatnije ih je puno manje i sa slabijom opremom, a SAA snage iz tog podrucja bi mogli koristiti u istocnoj Ghouti, kod Hame ili Aleppu ...



sto se Hame tice, pritisak SAA na polozaje pacova je i tamo i dalje na snazi ... SAA/NDF regain Kawkab in N Hama & Repel Rebels C-Attack on Kubbariyah (sta je sa Ma'anom kojega su navodno oslobodili, a sada ga vec na par kartama vidim opet u rukama pacova? izgleda da su prebrzo javili zauzimanje ili su ih protjerali)




situacija u Hami: https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/785789524639002624

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1871387




11 October 2016 17:30
ISIS Terrorists Stone to Death Iraqi Woman for Refusing to Marry Militant
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1871372


Video: 4 ISIS Terrorists Killed, Injured; 4 Captured in Syrian Army Ambush
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1871382


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žrtve zapadne propagandne mašinerije smatraju trumpa i putina ludacima
a možda samo oni mogu spasiti čovječantvo od velikog rata
dovraga sa demokracijom i ljudskim pravima
ako ameri izaberu gospođu klimton onda samo dokazaju da su zaista kolektivno glupi i ne zaslužuju ništa drugo nego da se čitav svet sjati na njih i izbriše amerikan drim iz njihove svijesti-silovanjem, ubijanjem i paležom
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Posted - 11/10/2016 : 21:49:42  Show Profile Show Extended Profile  Send izivko a Private Message
Jadna je to nacija koja je spala na ovakva dva kandidata!
O kakvim ljudima se radi, možemo vidjeti u ovoj prljavoj predsjedničkoj kampanji a osobito u njihovom sučeljavanju.
Zar američki narod nema boljih i pametnijih ljudi od ovo dvoje?

Uostalom, svaki narod zaslužuje onakvu vlast kakvu ima.

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Danas se u Tagesspiegelu pojavio komentar Maltea Lehminga o ratu u Siriji. Po mom išljenju komentator je nepristran, izvrsno analizira cijelu situaciju i nudi konkretno rješenje. Odlučio sam ga u cijelosti prevesti.

Tko će zaustaviti ubijanje u Siriji?
Pomoći može samo - brutalni realizam

Zapad lomi zube na ruskoj potpori Assadu jer je nedjelotvoran i nemoćan.
Ali bitni su ljudi a ne pobjeda.


Tko je zbog ubijanja u Aleppu tužan ili stišće šake mora promisliti da se brutalna stvarnost može razumijeti samo s brutalnim realizmom.
A stvarnost izgleda ovako: Assad je učvrstio svoju moć, u ovom trenutku razmišljati na koji način ga srušiti su samo puste želje. Kao podrška Assadu Rusija povećava svoju vojnu prisutnost. Pored zračne baze kod Latakije nastaje i trajna mornarička baza na obalama Tartusa. S Damaskom je postignut dogovor i o vremenski neograničenom stacioniranju ruskog vojnog zrakoplovstva.

Pobunjeničke grupe su pak rasute u više od stotinu frakcija i dijelom su pod utjecajem islamista. Mala umjerena oporba je beznačajna.
U dogledno vrijeme Sirija kao povezana državna cjelina neće postojati. Zemlja je raskomadana i podjeljena u interesne zone - Alavite, Kurde, Sunite, Šiite.
A Zapad? Zapad zbog svoje nedjelotvornosti zbunjeno lomi zube na Rusiji.

Ali najprije jedan kratak pogled unatrag.

Prije 15 godina, nekoliko tjedana nakon terorističkih napada 11. rujna 2001, po naredbi američkog predsjednika Georga W. Busha počeo je rat u Afganistanu. Rezultat: bilijun € vojnih izdataka, pola bilijuna € za pomoć u obnovi, 100.000 ljudi je ubijeno, među njima i 3500 pripadnika zapadnog saveza. Srušeni su talibani ali ne i njihova moć. A onda je Al Qaidu naslijedila "Islamska država".

U ožujku 2003 počeo je rat u Iraku. "Shock and awe", strah i poštovanje, glasio je slogan. Srušen je Saddam Hussein, okončan režim sunitske stranke Baath. Troškovi: 2,2 bilijuna dolara, 190.000 tisuća ubijenih, od toga 5000 američkih vojnika.
U Bagdadu vlast preuzimaju Šiiti, u Teheranu likuju mule.

Prije pet godina je počeo rat u Siriji

Onda je došlo Arapsko proljeće. U Egiptu je srušen Hosni Mubarak, predsjednik postaje jedan od Muslimanske braće a onda i on biva srušen. Malo se toga promijenilo.

U Libiji je uz pomoć Zapada s vlasti skinut Muammar al Gaddafi, od tada tamo vladaju kaos i bezvlašće. Šire se terorističke grupe, na tisuće izbjeglica kreću na put preko Sredozemnog mora.
S ovim deprimirajućim iskustvom na leđima Amerika i Europa gledaju na početak građanskog rata u Siriji.
Srušiti još jednog diktatora? Kako? Ući u rat? Zaboga, ne (vidi gore). Naoružati pobunjenike? Ali koje?
Kako nemaju zadovoljavajući odgovor ni na jedno pitanje, počinje klanje. I što sada?
Ne koristi zbog vlastite nesposobnosti upirati prstom u Moskvu.

Da, istina je: Vladimir Putin se pretvorio u neprijatelja Zapada. On je pripojio Krim, destabilizirao Istok Ukrajine, gaji simpatije prema desnim populistima, vrši cyber-napade, guši svaku vrstu oporbe. Ali nadati se da će ga nagovoriti na promjene uskraćivanjem dijaloga, gospodarskim sankcijama ili UN rezolucijama na koje Moskva ionako ima pravo veta, dovoljno govori samo o vlastitoj nemoći.

Ne, ako Zapad doista želi primiriti stanje, onda mora biti spreman na dijalog s Putinom pa i Assadom.
Ne smije više poticati pobunjenike na daljni otpor koji je neunčikovit i mora imati cilj pred očima.
A to znači: država Kurda na Istoku ali ne na turskom području; država Alavita na Zapadu pod kontrolom Assada; sunitska enklava na sirijsko-iračkom području, bez prava glasa Islamskoj državi. Duž ove crte moglo bi doći do sporazumijevanja.

Barem pokušaj koji svakako ne bi valjalo da propadne zbog osjećaja povrijeđene nečije časti ili ponosa.
Radi se o ljudima a ne o pobjedi.

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/wer-stoppt-das-morden-in-syrien-nur-eines-hilft-brutaler-realismus/14671972.html

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quote:
Originally posted by izivko

Jadna je to nacija koja je spala na ovakva dva kandidata!
O kakvim ljudima se radi, možemo vidjeti u ovoj prljavoj predsjedničkoj kampanji a osobito u njihovom sučeljavanju.
Zar američki narod nema boljih i pametnijih ljudi od ovo dvoje?

Uostalom, svaki narod zaslužuje onakvu vlast kakvu ima.


Cuj, Big Brother i razni live showi su postali bistvo americke nacije, a sto im onda i voditelji ne bi bili takve spodobe.

Sto se mene tice, metka u celo za oba dva, a pobjedit bi trebao Sanders. Samo tako bi zaista izabrali manje zlo. Jer predsjednik SAD je ionako samo lutka koju muvaju snazni lobiji, ali imati psiho lutku ... kuku lele takvoj drzavi. A i nama!



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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-09/bill-clinton-alleged-rape-victim-juanita-broaddrick-speaks-dramatic-new-interview

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u Iraku

ISF/PMU liberate E al-Anbar from IS & prepared to liberated Rawah & 'Anah





Video footage of the Syrian Army’s advance in northeast Aleppo
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-footage-syrian-armys-advance-northeast-aleppo/



Battles for Aleppo | October 11th 2016






Frontline districts of Aleppo city | October 2016






a u sjevernom Aleppo podrucju: FSA Rebels have withdrawn from Ihtaymilat and Duwaybiq after remote IEDs were detonated by ISIS. FSA have also retreated from Kafra due to the mines. Only village captured today is al-Zahiriyah. Turkish Helicopters are targeting ISIS positions in Tilalayn village, of North Aleppo.

150 rebels defect to ISIS in northern Syria: reports ... Ameri im smrde ili ...?
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/150-rebels-defect-isis-northern-syria-reports/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/southfront-syrian-rebels-advance-towards-isis-stronghold-aleppo-province/




istocna Ghouta, jos jedna karta
velika karta: http://i.imgur.com/srirIwS.jpg


Battle of East Ghouta - prikaz događaja na kartama, sve od oktobra 2014
https://syriamaps.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/battle-of-east-ghouta/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-tightens-noose-around-rebel-held-douma-captures-new-town/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-battlefield-map-east-ghouta/

SyAAF carries out air raids on towns in East Ghouta including Douma, Zamalka & Kafr Batna
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/786112958380269568

SAA is shelling the locations of the terrorist groups in Jobar who have targeted with mortar shells several neighborhoods in Damascus


a kad smo vec kod Damaska ... SAA & allies reentered & captured entire N sector - Seizing Loubia str. will enable them to control 1/2 camp
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-palestinian-committees-reenter-yarmouk-camp-southern-damascus/



a sjeverno od Damaska: 600 militants & their families will be evacuated from al-Hamah & Qudsiyah in the next 24 hrs as part of agreement with Army & Gov - OrientTV.





kod Hame

SAA liberated Kawkab and repelled militants attacks to Kubariyah
velika karta: http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/02c4/9xuu93ocf6h2yx1zg.jpg?size_id=c



https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/hama-village-turns-graveyard-islamists-offensive-goes-horribly-wrong/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/100-jihadist-rebels-killed-northern-hama-military/


Video footage of the Syrian Army capturing Kawkab village in northern Hama
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-footage-syrian-army-capturing-kawkab-village-northern-hama/




Jund al-Aqsa releases 57 Ahrar al-Sham prisoners as part of agreement and handed them over to JFS
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/786111756657713156





Manbij schools reopened after ISIS explosives dismantled
https://twitter.com/WeWillWin_Kurds/status/785930164261838848



Islamic State admits US airstrike killed ISIS emir in Raqqa
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamic-state-admits-us-airstrike-killed-isis-emir-raqqa/



Kirby clearly refusing to condemn Nusra (Al-Qaeda in Syria) & when reporter suggests US strategy is to let them run Aleppo, he is offended


a tek ova njuska!
US State Dept defends Saudi massacre of Yemeni civilians
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-state-dept-defends-saudi-massacre-yemeni-civilians/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/us-swears-revenge-houthis-attack-warships/

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-army-suffers-heavy-casualties-failed-jizan-offensive/





Turci htjeli rat sa Kurdima, i imaju ga ... steta sto umjesto kamere nemaju jednog dobroj snajperiste da posmica i ove koji su dosli u pomoc (PKK | Ambush on the Turkish army vehicle | September 25th 2016)
https://youtu.be/2U2OYVRyrN4



US urges calm as Turkey-Iraq tensions risk ISIS fight
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/us-turkey-iraq-tensions-mosul-isis-fight/index.html



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Interesantno kako se Washington ušutio a Francuska i Britanija odjednom intenzivno forsiraju optužbe na račun Rusije poslije propale rezolucije u UNSC. Evropski mediji sada intenzivno forsiraju priču o kažnjavanju Rusije, nema dana da SPIEGEL ne objavi kao vodeći članak intervju sa nekim političarem koji se zgražava nad ponašanjem Rusije i obavezno se ubacuju sankcije protiv Rusije u priču.
Da podsjetim, do prije nekih 10-ak dana nijedna jedina riječ o sankcijama nije pala. Tada je Wall Street Journal objavio jedan članak pokrenuvši niotkuda priču o tome da je jedan njemački političar rekao da se u Njemačkoj raspravlja o sankcijama, na šta je politički vrh Njemačke rekao da nemaju pojma niti da se priča o sankcijama. Kao na komandu krenula je od idućeg dana lavina članaka i intervjua koji traže sankcije, pretežno iz tabora transatlantista. Danas je na spiegel.de čak objavljen intervju sa švedskom ministarkom vanjskih poslova i sankcije su gurnute naravno u centralnu poziciju iako su sankcije spomenute samo ovlaš.

Pretpostavljam da će pritisak biti sve veći kako borbe u Alepu budu odmicale i situacija za umjerene u Alepu bude postajala dramatičnija, sve više slika se plasira iz istočnog Alepa tako da sumnjam da će se završiti samo na priči.

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Nove sankcije sigurno neće zaustaviti ubijanje u Aleppu.




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Sofa-stratezi su malo bijesni pa traže katarzu kroz kažnjavanje Rusije. Traže obustavljanje bombardovanja, ali naravno nemaju ideje šta dalje, i šta uraditi sa Al-Nusrom i desetinama hiljada radikalnih džihadista u Alepu i drugdje. Da je dogovor Rusije i Amerike stupio na snagu, radili bi upravo ono što sada radi samo Rusija, bombardovali Al-Nusru, čak i u stambenim sredinama, gdje bi bilo mnogo civilnih žrtava.

SAA je predlagala da militani iz Alepa pređu na neko drugo mjesto kako bi se poštedili civilni životi, što je odbijeno. Zapadni mediji se stavljaju na stranu militanata i pravdaju odbijanje zato što se SAA navodno ne može vjerovati jer nisu držali nijedno primirje, a potpuno prećutkuju sve one nedavne dogovore koji su omogućili militantima da pređu u Idlib.

Rusija je ostala bez opcija, Amerikanci odbijaju svaku saradnju, svako primirje je iskorišteno za naoružavanje islamista. Ja stvarno ne znam šta bi još moglo da se uradi da se stavi tačka na ovu tragediju. U svakom slučaju ne bih bio u koži onoga ko mora da donosi odluke u Siriji.

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